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« on: 05/11/2009 10:57:15 »
Sustainable Solar power in Sydney, home-generated electricity and green-housing developments go under the microscope this week as we explore the science of sustainable living. Meanwhile Dave goes for gold in water recycling by purifying and drinking water from urine, and we also find out how vitamin supplements can kill, discover an atom-thin transistor and hear how testosterone provoke boom and bust on the stock market. So join us as we become eco-estate agents and go through the keyholes of the Green Houses of Tomorrow!

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« Reply #1 on: 05/11/2009 10:57:15 »
Which house of what future?
I remember being at school in Milton Keynes in the 80's, we had a house of the future near us, and our class had a look around. The estate had solar panels on the roof, the curtains and appliances were all controlled by a central computer consol and so on. never have i seen a house like it since...
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« Reply #2 on: 22/04/2008 19:51:49 »
My house is roughly a hundred years old. The new houses built today may not last that long but, in general, the houses of the next 50 years are going to be the ones we have now.
 

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« Reply #3 on: 22/04/2008 20:32:03 »
I am also vey wary about the overall concept of microgeneration.  If a substantial fraction of out electricity were going to be provided by microgeneration, then what are the big power generating companies going to do about the loss of business.  They will not be happy, and they will have their voice heard (not least because they are a source of tax revenue, whereas at present microgeneration does not generate tax revenue, and it is far more difficult to enforce tax collection upon lots of little people, then upon a large centralised pool of money.

In fact it is interesting that while environmentalists are extolling the virtues of centralised transportation systems, they are also extolling the virtues of decentralised energy production systems (this despite the fact that we cannot get public transport to work properly, but have been working very well with large power generating plants).

I am not philosophically against microgeneration.  On the contrary, in general I support the notion that small is beautiful - I just think that nobody has properly thought through the end game should we ever get to the point that a substantial portion of the nations power is generated by microgenerators.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 23/04/2008 20:52:20 »
"what are the big power generating companies going to do about the loss of business?"
Well, if I have my own wind/ solar powered generator I don't much care what they do.
My guess is that the people who would lose their jobs if the power stations closed would be less than the new jobs created fixing wind turbines etc.
Anyway, if the price of fuel keeps on rising we simply won't be able to afford as much electricity so the big generators are facing a shrinking market whether we move to microgeneration or not.
 

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« Reply #5 on: 23/04/2008 21:53:31 »
"what are the big power generating companies going to do about the loss of business?"
Well, if I have my own wind/ solar powered generator I don't much care what they do.
My guess is that the people who would lose their jobs if the power stations closed would be less than the new jobs created fixing wind turbines etc.
Anyway, if the price of fuel keeps on rising we simply won't be able to afford as much electricity so the big generators are facing a shrinking market whether we move to microgeneration or not.

Rising  prices and restricted supply is not a problem for the power generators (in fact it can be an opportunity to increase their profits for less work); it is the loss of monopoly that is a threat.

If you have your own wind/solar powered generators, then you may not care what the big boys do, but you will care if the Government starts to listen to their tales of woe.  The government could start introducing strict planning restrictions (if they can create planning problems for putting up satellite receiver dishes, how much more complicated can they make the planning regime for putting up your own wind turbine or solar power collector); or they can apply rigid criteria to the production of units for microgeneration that would make them increasingly unaffordable to private buyers.
 

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