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« on: 09/06/2008 11:40:31 »
The ancient mathematicians have observed that the orbit of a planet approaches a circle but it never quite gets there.

Nature constantly tries to reach that perfect circle, but it never quite gets there. It's thought that the pi is striving towards the perfect circle.

Given that it's true. That means nature knows what it limit is and she knows exactly what she wants! The question is how she came to know of her limit and determined exactly what she needs? For instance given that all that in existence in the worlds are part of the all pervaded time and space and nature is the container of the whole created being. How then it comes to know that there exists a better perfect circle. That she would be restless to reach.

But she can never reach it. While it's always beyond the reach something eternally far away. She wouldn't be able to detect it 's existence in the first place. In that case nature herself must have come on the way of the live perfect circle. Because there was a need for it. Nature discovered by the perfect circle.

Being in the know of a perfect circle nature was able to know  what it lacks and how to full fill it. Discuss...
« Last Edit: 09/06/2008 12:25:34 by SFMA »


 

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« Reply #1 on: 09/06/2008 14:43:35 »
This is not Science, it is Pseudo Phylosophy.
Science has no time for anthropomorphism.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 09/06/2008 18:58:08 »
This is not Science, it is Pseudo Phylosophy.
Science has no time for anthropomorphism.
There is no evidence but has logic.
 

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« Reply #3 on: 09/06/2008 20:52:02 »
The orbits of planets aren't circles but they a damned close to eliptical. The area of an elipse and its circumference are related to pi.
"It's thought that the pi is striving towards the perfect circle."
Nature already got there if pi is how you judge success..
End of thread?
 

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« Reply #4 on: 09/06/2008 21:12:38 »
Is your 'nature' just a part of the whole of existence or is the whole world just a part of nature?
I 'she' is greater than everything then why should she need to be 'finding' anything? She made all the rules and could make them how she liked. If she is just a part of a larger whole then do you mean that we are all a huge experiment which she has set up just to see what happens.
Just what do you really mean?
 

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« Reply #5 on: 10/06/2008 01:16:45 »
Is your 'nature' just a part of the whole of existence or is the whole world just a part of nature?
I 'she' is greater than everything then why should she need to be 'finding' anything? She made all the rules and could make them how she liked. If she is just a part of a larger whole then do you mean that we are all a huge experiment which she has set up just to see what happens.
Just what do you really mean?
I mean nature the lifespan of the entire material world.
 

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« Reply #6 on: 10/06/2008 01:20:21 »
Nature already got there if pi is how you judge success..
End of thread?
Even the earth is not a perfect circle though it's round. But it
seems it rotates to be perfect.
 

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« Reply #7 on: 10/06/2008 09:25:40 »
Nature already got there if pi is how you judge success..
End of thread?
Even the earth is not a perfect circle though it's round. But it
seems it rotates to be perfect.
Are you implying it 'wants' to be perfect?
 

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« Reply #8 on: 10/06/2008 11:07:57 »
Nature already got there if pi is how you judge success..
End of thread?
Even the earth is not a perfect circle though it's round. But it
seems it rotates to be perfect.
Are you implying it 'wants' to be perfect?
Yes
 

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« Reply #9 on: 10/06/2008 14:57:59 »
Oh, fine. There's nothing more to be said then.
 

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« Reply #10 on: 10/06/2008 15:24:15 »
Oh, fine. There's nothing more to be said then.

The earth and all the living plants are alive.
 

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« Reply #11 on: 10/06/2008 16:01:06 »
There's no doubt that living things are alive. That's a definition. The Earth doesn't match that definition any more than a tableknife does. Presumably you have your own definition.
 

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« Reply #12 on: 10/06/2008 16:36:30 »
There's no doubt that living things are alive. That's a definition. The Earth doesn't match that definition any more than a tableknife does. Presumably you have your own definition.
How convinient.
 

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« Reply #13 on: 10/06/2008 17:12:01 »
No.
It's inconvenient for your new idea, I think. Unless I have to come up with a different definition of life and rewrite all the Biology books.
 

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« Reply #14 on: 10/06/2008 17:13:37 »
all the Biology books.
Every single of them?
 

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« Reply #15 on: 11/06/2008 11:43:20 »
How do you define life then?
It normally involves  things like growth, reproduction, nutrition, sensitivity, excretion, movement and respiration.
This is to distinguish living things (studied by Biology) from non-living things likes rocks, air etc, which are studied in Chemistry and Physics.
Perhaps you could give me an alternative definition of 'living' which makes sense.
 

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« Reply #16 on: 11/06/2008 23:03:24 »
How do you define life then?
It normally involves  things like growth, reproduction, nutrition, sensitivity, excretion, movement and respiration.
This is to distinguish living things (studied by Biology) from non-living things likes rocks, air etc, which are studied in Chemistry and Physics.
Perhaps you could give me an alternative definition of 'living' which makes sense.
That's fine. But remember little is known about the early or future life on
earth. There is a gap.
Are you not taking part in my poll?
 

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« Reply #17 on: 11/06/2008 23:38:41 »
I ask again
Perhaps you could give me an alternative definition of 'living' which makes sense.
Is this a human or a computer program I'm talking to?
 

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« Reply #18 on: 11/06/2008 23:47:41 »
I ask again
Perhaps you could give me an alternative definition of 'living' which makes sense.
Is this a human or a computer program I'm talking to?
A human of course!
 

lyner

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« Reply #19 on: 12/06/2008 18:57:55 »
So give me an answer or two.
 

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« Reply #20 on: 13/06/2008 10:43:59 »
So give me an answer or two.
All live creatures.
 

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« Reply #21 on: 13/06/2008 13:15:36 »
I ask again
Perhaps you could give me an alternative definition of 'living' which makes sense.
 

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