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Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« on: 27/08/2008 00:48:57 »
Do you believe in UFOs?
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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #1 on: 27/08/2008 01:04:19 »
I do !
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #2 on: 27/08/2008 01:06:25 »
YES!
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #3 on: 27/08/2008 04:58:35 »
as in ones that have come to earth and interacted with humans? No

 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #4 on: 27/08/2008 12:25:01 »
No I don't belive in UFOs they are all made up things from people's over-active imagination.
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #5 on: 27/08/2008 12:40:26 »
Everey time wifey cooks that's an UIO (Unidentifiable Inedible Object)
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #6 on: 27/08/2008 13:09:16 »
A metal vehicle just cant travel around the universe light speed makes this an impossibility

However A friend and I once saw a cloud like object that did not move in relation to the other clouds. It was green in colour fringed with red and very very beautiful ,so beautiful my froend began to weep.

Our respective wives both said we made up the story and 30 years later are still convinced we were deluded or worse.

Maybe these objects are right next to us, just separated by a portals into other dimensions/ Who knows but there must be some explanation for them

Regards

Alan
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #7 on: 27/08/2008 17:09:59 »
Genuine objects that are flying and not readily identifiable are reported regularly.

It is a mistake to assume that because they aren't immediately recognisable that they are from another part of the Universe.

Does anybody remember von Daniken? "Scientists/Archaeologists can't explain it therefore it must be aliens" - well it's that kind of thinking. ::)
 

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« Reply #8 on: 27/08/2008 17:23:22 »
A metal vehicle just cant travel around the universe light speed makes this an impossibility

However A friend and I once saw a cloud like object that did not move in relation to the other clouds. It was green in colour fringed with red and very very beautiful ,so beautiful my froend began to weep.

Our respective wives both said we made up the story and 30 years later are still convinced we were deluded or worse.

Maybe these objects are right next to us, just separated by a portals into other dimensions/ Who knows but there must be some explanation for them

Regards

Alan


Well, I'm convinced !!

But are ewe sure it just wasn't a great big jet engined spinach pizza ?

It happens y'know !
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #9 on: 27/08/2008 20:58:36 »
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Does anybody remember von Daniken? "Scientists/Archaeologists can't explain it therefore it must be aliens" - well it's that kind of thinking. roll eyes
He had me completely fooled when I was at School - photographs and everything.
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #10 on: 27/08/2008 22:03:04 »
A friend and I once saw a cloud like object...

Possibly this type of cloud  ...



http://pic1.piczo.com/valuca/?g=25544746&cr=1#

These lenticular clouds are probably responsible for "flying saucer" type "UFO" sightings.
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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #11 on: 27/08/2008 22:26:45 »
A metal vehicle just cant travel around the universe light speed makes this an impossibility

However A friend and I once saw a cloud like object that did not move in relation to the other clouds. It was green in colour fringed with red and very very beautiful ,so beautiful my froend began to weep.

Our respective wives both said we made up the story and 30 years later are still convinced we were deluded or worse.

Maybe these objects are right next to us, just separated by a portals into other dimensions/ Who knows but there must be some explanation for them

Regards

Alan

Alan what do Aeroplanes and Helicopters do then?

Fly in the air. And they are paid for with mainly public money unless these vehilcles are privately owned.
   
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #12 on: 28/08/2008 13:59:43 »
While we are on the subject of atmospheric phenomena being misinterpreted as paranormal...



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The magnificent Aurora Borealis (Northern Lights) in all its glory.
The awe-inspiring "Angel" captured over the statue of Sir David Stirling DSO (Doune, Scotland).
 
http://www.newscientist.com/blog/photos/2006/10/aurora-borealis.html
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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #13 on: 28/08/2008 16:41:01 »
Rosalind - I think Alan's problem was with light speed flight, not flight itself.  At least I assume so, if he's proposing that planes can't really fly I think we'll have to send that post to 'New Theories'!
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #14 on: 28/08/2008 17:11:34 »
Everey time wifey cooks that's an UIO (Unidentifiable Inedible Object)

Your wife cooks????????? Wow, I wish I had one of those. [:-'(]

The first and last time 'er indoors made (I mean tried to make) pastry, there were some very identifiable flying object in our kitchen, most collided with the wall and took a hammer & cold chisel to get them off. [:o)]

But seriously, I agree with Rosalind "they are all made up things from people's over-active imagination."

If there are other beings out there, and I have no reason to doubt there are, I doubt we will ever meet. The distances between systems such as ours which can support life are far too great. As for worm holes, transporter beams, warp drive and so on, these are best left to Star Trek & Dr Who. Pure speculation elevated into the realms of fantasy.
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #15 on: 28/08/2008 21:07:54 »
Everey time wifey cooks that's an UIO (Unidentifiable Inedible Object)

Your wife cooks????????? Wow, I wish I had one of those. [:-'(]




Please.......take my wife !!.....PLEEEEEEZE !!!!
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #16 on: 28/08/2008 21:23:17 »
As I have just written in another thread transportation of matter or rather a copy of matter has been done scientifically. The problem is we would have to have the same tech. on earth that the aleins have on their planet in order to receive a transported alien. Also transmission of the data for a whole body would take a very long time but if the aliens had better tech. they may be able to transmit data quicker.
First contact would have to be made before transportation could occur.

I don't rule anything out but I do like proof.
 

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« Reply #17 on: 28/08/2008 21:44:49 »
As I have just written in another thread transportation of matter or rather a copy of matter has been done scientifically. The problem is we would have to have the same tech. on earth that the aleins have on their planet in order to receive a transported alien. Also transmission of the data for a whole body would take a very long time but if the aliens had better tech. they may be able to transmit data quicker.
First contact would have to be made before transportation could occur.

I don't rule anything out but I do like proof.

Is that Proofessor Hawking ewe like ?..I like him !   ::)
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #18 on: 28/08/2008 21:46:34 »
Rosalind - I think Alan's problem was with light speed flight, not flight itself.  At least I assume so, if he's proposing that planes can't really fly I think we'll have to send that post to 'New Theories'!

Ben that might the right point but I know that airplanes do and can fly as I see the airplanes go over/near my home daily.
Noisy too.
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #19 on: 28/08/2008 22:09:03 »
As I have just written in another thread transportation of matter or rather a copy of matter has been done scientifically...

I don't rule anything out but I do like proof.

Surely a consequence of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is that making an exact copy of anything is impossible.
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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #20 on: 28/08/2008 22:23:45 »
Read the other thread in the new theories section. This problem is solved by quantum entanglement. I'm not a quantum physicist but I think two entangle particles will be opposite to each other so if you know what one is you will know the other is the opposite. This means you can measure one particle without changing it as you are actually examining its opposite.

Try this

www.newstatesman.com/200510170013
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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #21 on: 28/08/2008 23:32:41 »
Teleportation hypotheses involving quantum entanglement seem to imply that instantaneous (superluminal) communication is possible.

I'm sceptical about any theory which predicts that something (even information) could travel faster than the speed of light.
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« Reply #22 on: 29/08/2008 01:36:19 »
Physicists have teleported a few subatomic particles across their lab.

A conservative estimate is that using an 8 meg broadband connection, transmitting an entire human body would take about 40,000 billion years.

which is nice !


As far as travelling faster than the speed of light, I heard somewhere, in fact I think it was good old P Moore speculate that the only thing that might travel faster than the speed of light is the expansion of the Universe. His, remark was a retort against a statement that nothing could travel faster than the speed of light within the Universe.

I think it was him !
 

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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #23 on: 29/08/2008 03:42:39 »
I  dont believe in UFO's .

Foot odour is a common problem and  is usally caused by sweaty feet and can normally be combated by better hygiene practices. ;)
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Re: Do you believe that UFOs are real?
« Reply #24 on: 29/08/2008 11:15:41 »
Everey time wifey cooks that's an UIO (Unidentifiable Inedible Object)

Your wife cooks????????? Wow, I wish I had one of those. [:-'(]

The first and last time 'er indoors made (I mean tried to make) pastry, there were some very identifiable flying object in our kitchen, most collided with the wall and took a hammer & cold chisel to get them off. [:o)]

But seriously, I agree with Rosalind "they are all made up things from people's over-active imagination."

If there are other beings out there, and I have no reason to doubt there are, I doubt we will ever meet. The distances between systems such as ours which can support life are far too great. As for worm holes, transporter beams, warp drive and so on, these are best left to Star Trek & Dr Who. Pure speculation elevated into the realms of fantasy.

Don I thought that I was the only person, who had similar feelingss about the UFO's stories.
I know that Patrick Moore is well-known in the Astronomical circles
and on BBC TV as well but it's nearer to quantum sciences.

I agree that UFOs are best kept for TV or sci-fi book fiction
than in the reality of life. IMO.


(Which Rosalind doesn't understand)
 
 

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