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LaNelle Ohlhausen

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Do cold remedies suppress the immune system?
« on: 01/09/2008 18:49:39 »
LaNelle Ohlhausen  asked the Naked Scientists:

Hello Chris and the Naked Scientists gang!

Here is something I have wondered about for a long time:

As I understand it, the symptoms of a cold have nothing to do with the cold virus itself, but are due to the body's immune response. This being the case, when you take drugs to treat the symptoms of a cold, are you really suppressing the body's immune response and helping out the cold virus? (I suspect that colds might have a shorter duration if you don't treat the symptoms, but I've never seen any data to back this up.)

I greatly enjoy listening to your podcast every week. Even when you talk about my field of expertise (chemistry), I always learn something new. Keep up the good work!

Regards,
LaNelle Ohlhausen
Fort Worth, TXΒ  Β USA

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« Reply #1 on: 08/09/2008 16:18:59 »
I have only my own experience to go on here, and that is if I take a cold remedy that increases my body temperature and has no effect on the symptoms, I find a cold does go quicker than if I take remedy that suppresses the symptoms.

The trouble is, since no two cold viruses are the same, and different peoples immune systems work at different rates, it would be difficult to make a comparison.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 08/09/2008 19:37:35 »
"if I take a cold remedy that increases my body temperature "
Like what?
 

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« Reply #3 on: 09/09/2008 10:33:09 »
I find Beechams powder and a mug of hot milk with whisky does the job.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 26/11/2008 13:44:17 »
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« Reply #5 on: 26/11/2008 14:22:15 »
Since we have someone selling a product, I thought that I would go and see what was actually in it. Here are the ingredients. I also very much like the statements at the bottom.

Perhaps we can shed light on this "nightvizion" thing too?



Ingredients                          Amount     %DV
Vitamin A (as palmitate 4,000 IU & beta carotene 1,000 IU)       5,000 IU    100%
Vitamin C (from ascorbic acid, zinc, calcium & magnesium ascorbates)    1,290 mg     2,150%
Calcium (as calcium ascorbate)                   47 mg       4%
Zinc (as zinc ascorbate)                   23 mg       150%
Selenium (sodium selenite)                   25 mcg            35%
Copper (as copper sebacate)                   300 mcg    15%
Garlic Clove Powder                      360 mg             †
Propolis Powder                      324 mg             †
Boneset Leaf                         238 mg             †
Polygonum odoratum Rhizome                   200 mg             †
Echinacea Root                         196 mg             †
Echinacea Extract                      164 mg             †
Isatis Root & Leaf                      159 mg           †
Horehound Stems                      150 mg             †
Propolis Extract                      126 mg         †
Bioflavonoids                         120 mg            †
Astragalus Root                      90 mg       †
Angelica Root                         87 mg       †
Mullein Leaf                         80 mg       †
Goldenseal Root                      75 mg       †
Eleutherococcus senticosus Root                66 mg       †
Hawthorn Berry                         55 mg       †
Oregon Grape Root                      55 mg       †
Eleutherococcus senticosus Root Extract             54 mg       †
Pau D'Arco Bark Extract                   36 mg       †
Cayenne Fruit                         30 mg       †

Other Ingredients:
modified cellulose gum,
stearic acid,
colloidal silicon dioxide,
calcium and magnesium ascorbate and
magnesium stearate.

†: Daily value not established.

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W. Formula shows their favorable effect in trapping the free radicals which are harmful for body. It contain selenium which is knows as “anti-aging” element. Vitamin C shows their beneficial effect in gum bleeding especially which Vitamin A shows their beneficial effect in protecting the lining of the body and also in nightvizion. Overall these products enhance defense mechanism of body and give relief in physical discomfort.


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« Reply #6 on: 26/11/2008 14:30:12 »
I was just picking off one at random to see what these chemicals are, and I chose Selenium (sodium selenite). If the chemical formula is Na2SeO3, then "Highly toxic. May be fatal if inhaled, ingested or absorbed through the skin. Experimental carcinogen. May cause reproductive defects." (http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/SO/sodium_selenite.html)

I'm just going to wander through the list and see what other surprises ther are....
 

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« Reply #7 on: 26/11/2008 18:11:38 »
I find snake oil is very good.
 

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« Reply #8 on: 26/11/2008 20:17:53 »
Isn't that post spam?
Anyway, to be fair, like most things selenium is toxic in excess. On the other hand selenium is also a vital trace element.
 

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