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Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« on: 06/02/2005 15:25:37 »
Hello, I'm Neil.

I don't even know how I thought of this as all I'm doing is trying to listen to some music, but it just occurred to me that ' NOW ' does not exist !!!..because by the time you experience ' NOW ' it's already in the past !!!...comprendez ?....If time was to freeze, and we could some how move and exist in frozen time, then I suppose we could experience ' Now ' couldn't we ?

Your comments, reflections, pensées would be welcome, hugged loved and nurtured.....but don't reply straight away....reply NOW !!!..


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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #1 on: 06/02/2005 16:03:11 »
No because if time were frozen we wouldn't experience anything... Time might be freezing all the time and we wouldn't know about it :D. Does it matter?  Time could be looping over and over the last nanosecond forever for all we know, meaning that life is ultimately pointless :D If you think to hard on this stuff you just get depressed.

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #2 on: 06/02/2005 16:18:41 »
I'm so depressed !:(

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #3 on: 06/02/2005 17:26:50 »
Actually Neil, NOW is the only thing that exists. It is the past that is frozen, fossils, existing only in our memories. The future cannot be seen, because it is approaching at the speed of light. So enjoy the moment, Neil. There is no cause for depression, because you have the NOW. Seize the NOW, and kiss your wife. Hey, how's the morning sickness?
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #4 on: 06/02/2005 17:40:34 »
I'm Elated :D

Wifey is ok...ish !!:)...thanks chum....I shall ' Carpe Diem ' away:)

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #5 on: 06/02/2005 21:24:04 »
LOL

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #6 on: 07/02/2005 16:44:50 »
wow neil, what kind of music inspired THIS one??!!

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #7 on: 07/02/2005 20:51:53 »
quote:
Originally posted by MayoFlyFarmer

wow neil, what kind of music inspired THIS one??!!

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Dark Side Of The Moon whilst watching Wizard Of Oz !!...try it !!..it's a classic combination !![8D]

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #8 on: 07/02/2005 22:06:38 »
It's no bloody wonder you're not sure about NOW, Neil. Maybe if you listened to something less than 30 years old and watched movies less than 60 years old you may not be so frozen in time.
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #9 on: 09/02/2005 05:18:47 »
Hey, wash your mouth out with soap! Pink Floyd is still great. I haven't tried it with Wiz-Oz, however. Neil, I never guessed you did that. You're going to be branded an aging hippie if you're not careful.
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #10 on: 09/02/2005 06:05:51 »
what's wrong with being an aging hippie??!!  that's my life aspiration!

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« Reply #11 on: 09/02/2005 08:40:48 »
Oh Man !!..Far Out !..This site is one hip happenning trip !

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #12 on: 09/02/2005 22:48:17 »
I'm already an aging hippie, and Pink Floyd was one of my favourite bands 30 years ago. Now pass the bowl, I'll roll the next j.
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #13 on: 11/02/2005 20:46:11 »
How about I think now therefore now exists. And I thought therefore now existed.

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #14 on: 11/02/2005 20:57:27 »
Whatever the Matter,it will always be'NOW'!;)

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« Last Edit: 11/02/2005 21:01:31 by kellybett »
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #15 on: 12/02/2005 22:31:25 »
Time is arbitrary, and set by man. its a measurement of something really hard to grasp (by me anyway), especially when considered along with space. the concept of light years and all this differential ageing of space explorers makes my head hurt! so who are we to say the future is the future and cannot be seen? perhaps some people exist on different time lines, or maybe can travel around in time? perhaps time goes faster for some people than for others.
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #16 on: 13/02/2005 04:54:53 »
Time is a very peculiar dimension, is it not? What is it about the "arrow of time" that we cannot see ahead, and the past is gone forever? The equally peculiar answer is that time is in motion. I think we can all grasp that, because tomorrow gets here, and becomes today, even when we do nothing to help it, or everything to delay it. If time is in motion, then, how fast is it moving? The answer to that is that it moves at the speed of light. Nothing can go faster, so you can't get ahead of time, and you can't go back in time either.

Einstein formalized this in the special theory of relativity. His four-dimensional world space is defined as x, y, z, and -ict.
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #17 on: 13/02/2005 13:02:36 »
why can nothing go faster than the speed of light?
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #18 on: 14/02/2005 16:57:23 »
Your best answer is provided by the man himself. Check out "Relativity" by A. Einstein from you local library. It has a moderate mathematical level. Beware of "The Meaning of Relativity" unless you're good at tensor analysis.

In a nutshell, the upper limit on velocity constrains cause and effect. If we could out-race light, we could travel into the past, and change it. This will never happen, so nobody can kill you before you were born. There are other detailed effects as well, but I think that one is the most important. Things only happen once in this universe. That is an important lesson, from a physical, metaphysical, and philosophical viewpoint.
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #19 on: 14/02/2005 21:04:49 »
...also if you do go faster than light, or reach light speed then it'll get very dark eh ?...and you may well get your driving licence taken away too !!.....see ?....you'll make a physicist of me yet (grin)

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #20 on: 15/02/2005 11:27:58 »
Time is a measure of the interactions of substance within space.  Its passage is defined by the energy potential within localised space.
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #21 on: 15/02/2005 20:32:00 »
i thought that if you had zero mass you could travel faster than light??

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #22 on: 16/02/2005 14:08:42 »
well considering light [photons] do have zero mass, or are at least considered that way under current models, then you are infact saying light can travel faster than the speed of light.
« Last Edit: 16/02/2005 14:13:32 by realityengineer »
 

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #23 on: 16/02/2005 18:49:55 »
what if you had negative mass??

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Re: Does ' NOW ' exist ?
« Reply #24 on: 16/02/2005 19:00:05 »
Negative mass is repeled by positive mass, but positive mass is attracted to negative mass. So a positive mass would fall into a negative mass, which would fall away from the positive mass. It makes an interesting propulsion model. Nobody has seen any negative mass, however.
 

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