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Offline Dege

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OK, I read about engineering a virus to kill cancer cells and stop when it hit healthy tissue.

my question is what virus would you use to do it and can it even be done?

Would you have to use a specific virus or could it be any kind ?

please tell me what you think.


 

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« Reply #1 on: 01/11/2008 22:52:40 »
I wouldn't use any viruses whatsoever. Cancer cells resemble embryonic cells, so a cancer cell is basically the body's attempt to regenerate damaged tissue - unfortunately, something goes awry.

If you want to know what that something is, try reading Dr. Robert O. Becker's 'The Body Electric'. It will get you to rethink everything you've been taught about cancer. He believes that cancer cells aren't the bad guys - but electromagnetic radiation from things like power lines and cell phone towers is.
 

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Engineering a virus to kill cancer. what virus would you use?
« Reply #2 on: 01/11/2008 23:37:21 »
Sorry but I need to go off topic and just post an open rant.

I often wonder why the forum accepts and suffers such crazy people, do they bring anything constructive? Do they engage in intelligent debate?

There are a few things I notice when the persistent  nutters join the forum:

There will always be one or two members who take the time to TRY and educate the nutters.

Their efforts fall on deaf ears.

General postings and traffic by established, sane members drops off. Are these members busy or just sick of the madness?

Isn't it time to rename new theories or have a new board where all the crazy posts and posters are moved to?
 

Offline JnA

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« Reply #3 on: 02/11/2008 11:16:01 »
I'm not sure I'd want to deliver a known pest to combat another known pest.. I mean they tried that with cane toads in Australia, and that's turned out to be a complete balls up.




"SKINNER
Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.

LISA
But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

SKINNER
No problem. We simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

LISA
But aren't the snakes even worse?

SKINNER
Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

LISA
But then we're stuck with gorillas!

SKINNER
No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death."
 

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« Reply #4 on: 15/11/2008 19:17:06 »
Yea,

I have long wondered what purpose the virus has in nature. Some bacteria can cause awful deadly diseases and other absolutely necessary for sustaining life, like gastric bacteria.

The virus in contrast seems to only cause problems , but there is a theory that they have a place in the process of evolution

Alan
 

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« Reply #5 on: 16/11/2008 13:54:14 »
Its purpose is to multiply like everything else.
 

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« Reply #6 on: 16/11/2008 19:08:06 »

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Its purpose is to multiply like everything else

I do not agree to me it has no purpose other than killing its host and by this continually committing suicide,

Of course it constant attack on host organism must make the host evolve constantly and maybe this adaption become more able to cope with changes in environment new threats become more invulnerable over time.

Maybe it is something to us it is "there is no gain without pain"

Alan
 

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« Reply #7 on: 16/11/2008 21:46:50 »

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Its purpose is to multiply like everything else

I do not agree to me it has no purpose other than killing its host and by this continually committing suicide,

Of course it constant attack on host organism must make the host evolve constantly and maybe this adaption become more able to cope with changes in environment new threats become more invulnerable over time.

Maybe it is something to us it is "there is no gain without pain"

Alan

Nope, it's a veritable multiplication machine.  Should the host die that is an unfortunate side-effect.  All a virus does is turn a cell into a virus-making factory.
 

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« Reply #8 on: 17/11/2008 00:16:42 »
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Nope, it's a veritable multiplication machine

There must be a why?  behind every organism, Why does it multiply? Did some evil god put it there to be the bane of human existence, it just seems to me to have no purpose in the grand order of things, except make us and other life forms miserable and sick even killing countless millions, why? why?  ???

They are half alive psychopaths

The little evil devil's >:(

Alan ;D
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« Reply #9 on: 17/11/2008 05:40:20 »
They don't need a why, they just work because they work, the same as us.
 

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« Reply #10 on: 02/12/2008 04:11:40 »
Not a virus, but I read somewhere that histopathologists discovered one of the main features of cells infected with cancer go through mitosis at a much higher rate than cells not infected. Surely if they used colchicine on cancer then it would freeze mitosis in the metaphase decreasing the spread of cancerous cells long enough for them to be treated or removed.

I understand that colchicine has a very high toxic banding, but it might be worth it if all else fails you know :)
 

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« Reply #11 on: 02/12/2008 06:47:38 »
Not a virus, but I read somewhere that histopathologists discovered one of the main features of cells infected with cancer go through mitosis at a much higher rate than cells not infected. Surely if they used colchicine on cancer then it would freeze mitosis in the metaphase decreasing the spread of cancerous cells long enough for them to be treated or removed.

I understand that colchicine has a very high toxic banding, but it might be worth it if all else fails you know :)

Colchicine was one of the first chemotherapeutics used to combat cancer, and I believe it's still used occasionally today.
 

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