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Offline Make it Lady

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« Reply #50 on: 22/10/2008 22:50:43 »
I'm female and I don't drool. Well OK, I do if it involves chocolate.
 

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« Reply #51 on: 23/10/2008 17:16:56 »
Gender cannot protect one from the vicissitudes of saliva. It is a scientific fact, said by at least one scientist, that women droll for may other reasons than just chocolate. Reasons such as hand bags, shoes, the tushes of certain men, including sailors on shore-leave, The list is endless, containg items ranging from the mundane - toiletries with "pretty" olfactory emanations to men with huge ... yachts and other personal items, some items being QUITE personal.

The fact the the person who is saying she doesn't droll has a hare-lip should warn against believing everything you read. (Pardon me, the politically correct term is lagomorph-lip.)
 

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« Reply #52 on: 29/10/2008 12:08:08 »
I think this whole Presidential election business has been manipulated from long before the candidate selection process because of the financial turmoil which has engulfed the US and the rest of the world. All the financial sector and politicians could see it coming sooner or later. For the Republicans it has come a bit too soon for their liking.

Because the financial meltdown has come about during the time when the Republicans were in power with George WWW Bush.com at the helm, and with tough times ahead, they really don’t want to have a Republican President over the next few years. The harsh steps which the next President will have to take to get the US economy back on it’s feet would make life hell for the republicans as it is ‘all their fault’ in the first place. Whereas handing over to the democrats will mean the republicans can blame them for the cost to Middle America, saying ‘we would have done something far less damaging to the taxpayer’. If things don’t work out too well, it will be the democrats fault.

For this reason the republicans have put up a candidate who really is a no-hopper. Whenever I see McCain on the news, I look for the strings. He looks like a puppet and appears to be at a loss as to where he is, where he’s going and why. There was no real high-profile campaign to decide who the republican candidate would be. This effectively left Americans flooded with the democrat’s campaign and kept the topic of discussion centered on the democrats. Palin was the final nail in the republican’s coffin lid. She is a ‘stooge’ put in place to ensure failure. She is inexperienced and being set-up as the unacceptable face of party political excess. I do not think McCain chose her as his running mate, he was ‘pushed’ into taking her. He strikes me as being far too ‘old school’ to have picked a female.

As for the democrats’, they too are reluctant to be at the helm over the next few years for the same reasons as the republicans. But they, at least, can blame the harsh measures which need be taken on the previous administration. The campaign between Clinton (woman) and Obama (black) ensured the highest possible profile, leaving the republicans out of the scene. By choosing these two, they may also have deliberately given themselves a good get-out clause with which to defend themselves in the event of failure to right the US economy. “America was not ready for a black/woman president”. Obama’s victory over Clinton, I think has pleased the democrats, since it gives them the lead ticket on the non-racist stance at the same time as giving them the “not ready for a black President” excuse for failure. They are on a win/win ticket.

Incidentally, I was shocked and dismayed to see a web site (which I will not give credence to by posting a link here) referring to the Bradley effect as “the coon affect” and accusing some media of “coonifying” black candidates. Such talk does nothing to allay the problems of inter-racial tension, but rather highlights the problems and helps cause it’s continuance.

To the author: Black you may be sir; gay you may be sir (although why you point this out I do not know); but you do nothing but damage to your alleged cause. Let those who seek to spread disparaging remarks on racial issues stew in their own misguided views. Do not do them the justice of attention to their rantings.


I was also somewhat perturbed by some American interviewees on last night’s news who said they didn’t want a Muslim President??? I think they are having some difficulty coming to terms with Obama’s middle name.

Obama is, of course, not black. He is of mixed race. But he will be deemed to be black because of his skin colour. If he succeeds in the restoration of the US economy, leads the US back to prosperity and regains America’s world position (oh, and keeps the American people happy into the bargain) he will take his place at the top of the anti-racial charts, above Martin Luther King, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela and go down in history alongside Washington & Lincoln as one of America’s greatest Presidents.

I think Obama will win, despite the fears of the Bradley effect taking it’s toll on his votes. But he will have a steeper uphill struggle to win the confidence of all the American people than Lincoln had after the civil war.

Is America ready for a black President? Only time will tell.

Stay out of the theatre and open top cars’..... Watch your back, Barack!
 

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« Reply #53 on: 29/10/2008 14:25:56 »
It hurts me to post this but I was deeply saddened to hear from an American friend of ours who was staying recently that it was, in her words, "inevitable that Obama will be assassinated". This was what she thought but naturally didn't endorse.
With legalised gun ownership as well as historically deeply-held beliefs/prejudices plus at least, I believe, three precedents it seems as if this is not impossible. This articulate man points the way forwards in what is now a global, multicultural world - something I've seen develop in my lifetime.
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« Reply #54 on: 29/10/2008 15:38:11 »
Sadly I think 'President' Obama's assassination is a distinct possibility. It will be a white assassin and will result in unthinkable race riots.

If he wins, as I suspect he will, the American secret service will have to be at it's most vigilant to protect him and thereby the peace and stability of the union.

God (pardon the term) help America if they fail.
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« Reply #55 on: 29/10/2008 15:57:10 »
It hurts me to post this but I was deeply saddened to hear from an American friend of ours who was staying recently that it was, in her words, "inevitable that Obama will be assassinated". This was what she thought but naturally didn't endorse.
With legalised gun ownership as well as historically deeply-held beliefs/prejudices plus at least, I believe, three precedents it seems as if this is not impossible. This articulate man points the way forwards in what is now a global, multicultural world - something I've seen develop in my lifetime.

On MPR at the start of the campaigns this was the one thing all blacks were afraid of, many saying they would not vote for Obama because they believed he would be assassinated.
 

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« Reply #56 on: 02/11/2008 00:47:41 »
Palin scares the living daylights out of me ?

How can someone come out of obscurity to be potentially a heart beat away from being the president. She's a war mongering gun toting creationist who believed the world was created 6000 years ago.

I'd still ' do her ' though !  ;)

I second that emotion.
 

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« Reply #57 on: 02/11/2008 02:26:17 »
As an American, living in the south, and still witnessing racism at it's worst, I too am afraid that if Obama is elected he will be assasinated.  I pray we're all wrong.
 

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« Reply #58 on: 02/11/2008 04:48:17 »
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This articulate man points the way forwards in what is now a global, multicultural world - something I've seen develop in my lifetime.

Im not sure that Obama points the way foreward, or in any direction really.  There is little to judge him on.  All we in the US have are his words and the meager record he has left behind as he used his first terms in office to run for the next highest office.

He may be a very decent person, and possibly even a great leader, but it would be folly to trust the oratory of ANY politician seeking such a high office without something substantial to back it up in his record.

That being said, McCain does have a record...and it mostly sucks aside from taxation/spending issues (the glaring exception being the market bailout turd).  I havent even voted yet because there is no one worth standing in line 45 minutes for.  Oh well.

Obama will likely win, and there will very possibly be an attempt on his life.  The ramifications of this would be unthinkable and horrendous.  Legalized gun ownership would have little to do with it...if someone willing to kill a president wants a gun, they will get it...illegal or not.

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As for the democrats’, they too are reluctant to be at the helm over the next few years for the same reasons as the republicans.
 

I strongly disagree.  Democrats are licking their chops to get into power, and I dont mean this in a derogatory way.  They have been out of favor with Americans since the 1980's (after the last huge economic crash) after sweeping Washington for most of the 50 years before.  They feel that it is their time.  The fact that Obama needed a stock market collapse to propel him forward in the polls when Congressional Democrats are favored by historically large margins across the country speaks just as loudly as McCains inability to defeat a far left (by American standards) first term state/national Senator.

Some people try to draw parallels between Obama and President Kennedy, but, for the most part, Kennedy was far more conservative than both McCain or Obama.  Reagan, nor Bush, were the first in the 20th century to extol the virtues of supply-side economics...Kennedy was (well, actually it was Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon in the 1920s, but whos counting), and it was Kennedy (and Khrushchev) who brought us closer to nuclear war than any other world leader(s) (not to mention entanglement in Vietnam).

 
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« Reply #59 on: 02/11/2008 06:45:58 »
Youtube up McCain on Saturday Night Live.
A QVC infomercial, Palin going rouge, it had a weird feel to it.


 

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« Reply #60 on: 02/11/2008 19:37:54 »
Barry (as his family call him) is a big boy. I'm sure he realises the risks of being President. Black or white or Kennedy; all Presidents live with the real fear of being knocked off. It is worse than medievil times when children of the King would poison each other in order to take the throne. I guess all the best leaders of America end up being murdered so if Barry is any good I'm sure someone will try. You can't be a good leader without upsetting nutters.
 

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« Reply #61 on: 04/11/2008 02:21:00 »
Can you tell ffrethac is a Republican? And that it was the "Tax reform" Measure of the first President Bush that shut down the Economy, especially the oil business, as I was one of the 255,000 oil and gas professionals - geologists and engineers - the complete guts of the industry- that last their jobs during the REPUBLICAN caused freefall the economy wen through - It was done to eliminate the smaller companies so that larger companies - not just oil companies but all industries - could become the only players.

And I agree, some nuttter like frethac will probably put a bullet in Barry's brain if elected.
 

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« Reply #62 on: 04/11/2008 03:36:20 »
Nice try Jim  ;) You more than anyone should know that I have no loyalty to any political party.

As for Bush 41...he is a weenie who deserved to be defeated on his reelection bid.  Reagan he is/was not.  My first presidential election ('96) I voted for Clinton, the man who trounced him (though I voted R is the congressionals two years before).  Dole (speaking of religious nutters) wasnt much better than Bush 41.

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...during the REPUBLICAN caused freefall the economy wen through...

The last that I remember, both houses of Congress were controlled by Democrats with very good majorities.  The Executive branch may submit the budget, but its the Legislative branch that changes it and passes it.  Both parties own responsibility for that turd as well.

This right wing, gun toting, fascist nutter has a large amount of respect for a certain left wing, flag burning, commie ex-hippie.  Hows that for bipartisanship?  ;D
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