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Re: Is a wood stove environmentally friendly?
« Reply #25 on: 10/06/2012 16:59:57 »
I suppose you could avoid that by having several small furnaces, but that might be a bit of a pain!

Digital furnaces! ;D


I was under the impression a radiative stove (painted with stove black, say) wants to be as hot as the iron will stand (discounting any safety concerns), so hot water (at 99degC say!) is too cool to help with continued good combustion temperatures.
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Re: Is a wood stove environmentally friendly?
« Reply #26 on: 10/06/2012 18:48:00 »
One can keep the firebox hot.
The idea was to use the water to recover heat from the flue.  One just has to deal with creosote and drafting.
 

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Re: Is a wood stove environmentally friendly?
« Reply #27 on: 10/06/2012 19:04:56 »

I was under the impression a radiative stove (painted with stove black, say) wants to be as hot as the iron will stand (discounting any safety concerns), so hot water (at 99degC say!) is too cool to help with continued good combustion temperatures.


I don't think so. In olden times we had things called steam locomotives with a great big water filled firebox. Mind you, the water was under pressure, so its boiling point was elevated quite a bit.
 

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Re: Is a wood stove environmentally friendly?
« Reply #28 on: 10/06/2012 19:59:44 »
Did anybody ever figure out whether black or silver radiates more energy?

I'm not sure one really needs to paint it black.
 

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Re: Is a wood stove environmentally friendly?
« Reply #29 on: 17/06/2012 10:03:08 »
No, wood burning is NOT environmentally friendly!

Woodsmoke Pollution and Your Health

Wood Smoke particulates are as bad as Diesel particulates.
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wood smoke -- deadlier than tobacco smoke!
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Natural, Yes, But Wood Smoke is Toxic, Too
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Where There's Smoke, There's Sickness: Wood Smoke now a major Northwest air polluter
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Health Impact of Wood Smoke
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Predominant wood (fuel) users in North America and Europe had a 21% higher risk of lung cancer.
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Air Pollution Linked to Breast Cancer
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wood smoke may be an underestimated risk factor for COPD in Europe in general
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The impact of wood smoke on children, neighborhoods
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TV show informs about the health dangers of wood smoke
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Smoky air can harm dogs and cats, too, says vets and pollution experts
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The U.S. EPA estimates the cancer risk from wood smoke is twelve times greater than that from equal amounts of tobacco smoke. Wood burning also creates dioxins
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Much of outdoor formaldehyde and acrolein releases in Oregon comes from burning wood.
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Wood smoke major source of pollution in winter
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American Lung Association of California is urging the public to avoid wood burning
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Wood burning banned in Bay Area on Christmas Eve
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Intertek Study funded by Environment Canada, 2002 proves Dioxin Furans Increased 400% in Certified Stoves
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90 Scientists Urge Congress Not to 'Cook the Books' in CO2 Accounting for Biofuels, Other Bioenergy Sources
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Al Gore calls on world to burn less wood and fuel to curb 'black carbon'
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Global Warming and Atmospheric Brown Clouds
   
Climate Thinkers - Prof V. Ramanathan, Scripps Institution of Oceanography
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Re: Is a wood stove environmentally friendly?
« Reply #30 on: 19/06/2012 00:33:07 »
Well, yes, wood smoke can be very nasty stuff, but at least burning wood does not permanently alter the composition of the Earth's atmosphere, or leave a lot of atomic waste for future generations to deal with.
 

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Re: Is a wood stove environmentally friendly?
« Reply #31 on: 19/06/2012 07:25:01 »
A lot depends on weather patterns, population density, and how clean the wood stoves burn.  So what is appropriate for one community may not be appropriate for another.

Some of the worst wood burning pollution in Oregon is in a small logging community, Oakridge, where you can imagine just about everyone burns wood in the winter. 

However, significant improvements can be made by using an catalytic wood stove, or some kind of a hot air injection system such as the quadrafire. 

Wood stoves, and stove inserts, are much more efficient than fireplaces.  But, it will just take time to slowly replace all the older non-compliant stoves with the newer models.

Even on the worst days, communities such as Oakridge aren't as bad as many of the big metro areas such as St. Louis or LA were regularly in the past, especially when they used to have individual coal furnaces.  And, many of the very smelly factories around the country have been cleaned up (or sent to China).

I still think one could build a water bath chimney that would be both extremely efficient for energy capture as well as extremely low emissions.  But, we aren't there yet.
 

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Re: Is a wood stove environmentally friendly?
« Reply #32 on: 23/06/2012 16:41:41 »
If you happened to live in a valley then it would not be too healthy to you, your friends and family.

Is burning coal less harmful than burning wood? Probably not.

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