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« on: 25/11/2008 12:39:00 »
Do we ‘get pissed’ to ‘let off steam’?

We generally speak about knowledge from a phenomenological (an observable fact or event) perspective; recent developments in neuroscience, however limited, suggest some of the neural bases for conceptualization, which is brain action discernable via brain scan technology

“Concepts are neural activation patterns that can either be “turned on” by some actual perceptual or motoric event in our bodies, or else activated when we merely think about something, without actually perceiving it or performing a specific action…The most sweeping claim of conceptual metaphor theory is that what we call abstract concepts are defined by systematic mappings from body based, sensorimotor source domains onto abstract target domains.” Quote from “The Meaning of the Body” Mark Johnson

Words have meaning for us only within a context that is meaningful.  At some time in my life plants have become meaningful to me and thus the word “bloom” evokes that meaning; likewise “traveler” with journey and “ashes” with fire. 

“Because words can evoke schemas, and metaphors map schemas into other schemas, words can prompt a metaphorical understanding.”

Poets use metaphor to convey meaning.  Cognitive scientists study metaphor to comprehend the hidden aspects of the human mind.  To understand poetic metaphor one must understand conventional metaphor.  To study metaphor is to discover that “one has a worldview, that one’s imagination is constrained, and that metaphor plays an enormous role in shaping one’s everyday understand of everyday events.”

As creatures we perceive our self as a container having an interior and exterior with a boundary between.  We experience our bodies as structured wholes with identifiable parts.  We move about in space to achieve our needs and desires; sometimes our path is obstructed by objects that we try to eliminate or move around. 

“Each of these quite basic interactions with the world is generalizable, and each is in fact generalized across a series of other domains.  Each of these generalizations is a recurring structure or repeatable pattern by which we are able to understand the world as a unified place that we can make a sense of.”

Because I could not stop for Death—
He kindly stopped for me—
The Carriage held but just Ourselves—
And Immortality—Emily Dickinson

Without metaphors for death we could not comprehend this poem easily.  Why do we know so many metaphors for death?  Winter and other authors inform me that we think with conceptual metaphors because without them we could not comprehend our world.

Quotes from “A Clearing in the Forest: Law, Life, and Mind” by Steven L. Winter


 

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« Reply #1 on: 25/11/2008 20:30:26 »
After reading that I'm not sure which meaning of "get pissed" you had in mind.
In the UK it means to get drunk; in the US it means to get angry.

To me this sugests that, at best, the text has nothing to do with the question. Of course, it could be that the text means nothing.
 

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Do we ‘get pissed’ to ‘let off steam’?
« Reply #2 on: 26/11/2008 07:43:22 »
After reading that I'm not sure which meaning of "get pissed" you had in mind.
In the UK it means to get drunk; in the US it means to get angry.

To me this sugests that, at best, the text has nothing to do with the question. Of course, it could be that the text means nothing.

I'll go along with your estimation of this post BC, shall we go and get pissed and have the bill sent to Coberst?
 

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« Reply #3 on: 26/11/2008 17:13:27 »
The title is a set of metaphors and my post is about metaphors.  I have been studying SGCS (Second Generation Cognitive Science) for many months and have become convinced that this new paradigm forms the core of a new and penetrating theory of human cognition.  Conceptual metaphor is the foundation of this new insight.

I hope to engage the curiosity of some small percentage of my readers to the extent that they will go to the books to learn what this is all about.  A few paragraphs in a forum cannot enlighten the reader it can only, hopefully, lead the reader into going to the books.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 26/11/2008 20:23:10 »
After reading that I'm not sure which meaning of "get pissed" you had in mind.
In the UK it means to get drunk; in the US it means to get angry.

To me this sugests that, at best, the text has nothing to do with the question. Of course, it could be that the text means nothing.

I'll go along with your estimation of this post BC, shall we go and get pissed and have the bill sent to Coberst?
Nice idea, but he might set the Old Bill onto us.
BTW, is it just me who thinks of Alan Sokal's famous work when I read stuff like Coberst's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_Affair
 

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