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Why Does Lightning Strike All Jaggedy ?
« on: 25/11/2008 13:49:25 »
Dear Lightningologidts !

I thought lightning always finds the shortest path when it strikes !...Last thing I heard, the shortest path between two objects is usually a straight line. (The exception to this is when wifey needs to get some shopping from M&S and takes a route that involves walking into every shop first !)


Check this lightning out !



Nice eh ? Being contained and delivered to me next Tuesday as an attractive wall display.

As ewe can see it is not taking a straight route ! Why does Lightning not strike in a straight line ?

Why's that then ?

I don't know...do ewe know  ?  I am going to keep pressing my neighbours doorbell until I get an answer !

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« Reply #1 on: 25/11/2008 14:10:43 »
Well, the conductivity of air is not constant. Some regions of air are more conductive than others and lightening will seek out these regions.
Lightening does not strike 'all at once'. It is thought that it happens in steps of about 50metres and this is why you see the 'jagged' effect as each step passes through the 'channel' of least resistance.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 25/11/2008 14:23:20 »
Are there not also a series of "feeders" that form on the nodes of the lightning bolt, and so mark the pathway that it has to take?
 

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« Reply #3 on: 25/11/2008 14:29:35 »
Could be...not sure about that one.
Here's something from 'Scientific American' that deals with it in brief, but it doesn't go into much depth.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=why-are-lightning-bolts-j
 

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« Reply #4 on: 25/11/2008 16:46:08 »
Well, the conductivity of air is not constant. Some regions of air are more conductive than others and lightening will seek out these regions.
Lightening does not strike 'all at once'. It is thought that it happens in steps of about 50metres and this is why you see the 'jagged' effect as each step passes through the 'channel' of least resistance.

Hullo Bikerman


THANK EWE for this. Very Interesting...so, it' not the shortest route it takes but the route of least resistance. How does the lightning stuff know which way to turn ?...say, there was two paths of exactly the same resistance on either side of a high resistant zone.....would it split?

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Me asky quwstion about lightning strike
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« Reply #5 on: 25/11/2008 17:25:52 »
Well, I'm well out of my comfort zone, but I think the answer to that is yes - hence we see forked lightening ...
 

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« Reply #6 on: 25/11/2008 17:37:20 »
Chris - you'll get used to Sheepie. Mad as a hatter, but quite harmless  :D
 

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« Reply #7 on: 25/11/2008 18:35:40 »
Well, I'm well out of my comfort zone, but I think the answer to that is yes - hence we see forked lightening ...

THANK EWE CHRIS ?

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I'm there most of the time when it comes to klevur stuff ! I see we have the estimable Doctor Beave to thank for your joining us here. Thanks Dr Beave. Chris is great !

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« Reply #8 on: 25/11/2008 18:37:29 »
Chris - you'll get used to Sheepie. Mad as a hatter, but quite harmless  :D

....just following in the great doctors footsteps !  ;D (No..Not Dr Frankenstein..Doctor Beaver..yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy !!)
 

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« Reply #9 on: 25/11/2008 18:37:53 »
Chris has made some very erudite contributions to other forums (sorry, fora) I use so I thought he would be a good person to have here.
 

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« Reply #10 on: 25/11/2008 18:40:02 »
Gawwd knows we need more scholarly peeps here !...something to counteract the girlies deficit !
 

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« Reply #11 on: 25/11/2008 18:41:22 »
Forget that - he drinks REAL ALE!
 

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« Reply #12 on: 25/11/2008 18:47:29 »
As a tea-totalling sheep..I've always been confused by the term ' real Ale'...does this mean that other ales are not real ?
 

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« Reply #13 on: 25/11/2008 18:54:28 »
As a tea-totalling sheep..I've always been confused by the term ' real Ale'...does this mean that other ales are not real ?

Yes. They are virtual.
 

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« Reply #14 on: 25/11/2008 19:05:18 »
As a tea-totalling sheep..I've always been confused by the term ' real Ale'...does this mean that other ales are not real ?
LOL...well, by definition anything in the 'lager' department is not an ale. Ales use a top fermenting yeast (ie it rises to the top during fermentation) at a higher temperature than most lagers. This gives a fruity taste (in conjunction with the all important hops).
 

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« Reply #15 on: 25/11/2008 19:20:25 »
As a tea-totalling sheep..I've always been confused by the term ' real Ale'...does this mean that other ales are not real ?
LOL...well, by definition anything in the 'lager' department is not an ale. Ales use a top fermenting yeast (ie it rises to the top during fermentation) at a higher temperature than most lagers. This gives a fruity taste (in conjunction with the all important hops).

A Fruity taste eh ? Thank Ewe for the explanation Mr Bikerman. Do ewe think, that a real ale would be a gentle introduction into the ale/lager/beer fraternity for a tea-totaller like me ? The fact that it may be 'fruity' is somewhat appealing !
 

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« Reply #16 on: 25/11/2008 22:33:24 »
Ideally this ale should be stored in a pyramidal fridge...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tutankhamunale.JPG

Do the hieroglyphics say "do not drink and drive a chariot"  :)
« Last Edit: 25/11/2008 22:42:30 by RD »
 

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« Reply #17 on: 25/11/2008 22:39:32 »
A Fruity taste eh ? Thank Ewe for the explanation Mr Bikerman. Do ewe think, that a real ale would be a gentle introduction into the ale/lager/beer fraternity for a tea-totaller like me ? The fact that it may be 'fruity' is somewhat appealing !
Well, it's a very serious business drinking real ale. You first need to get yourself a nice cardigan and, preferably a duffel coat. Then you need to grow a beard and moustache. Finally you need to learn the specific gravity of a couple of hundred ales :-)

Seriously - you might like to try some of the Christmas ales that normally appear at this time of the year - normally very alcoholic though...
 

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« Reply #18 on: 25/11/2008 23:21:48 »
Here's a nice littrle Christmas ale for you:-

 

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« Reply #19 on: 26/11/2008 17:51:53 »
Here's a nice littrle Christmas ale for you:-



Are ewe sure that's not just a glass of Santas Christmas Wee ?



 

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« Reply #20 on: 26/11/2008 17:57:38 »
Ideally this ale should be stored in a pyramidal fridge...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tutankhamunale.JPG

Do the hieroglyphics say "do not drink and drive a chariot"  :)

Nice ale !!

After ewe imbibed a few are ewe supposed to crawl into the box in search of your Mummy ! ?
 

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« Reply #21 on: 26/11/2008 18:02:02 »
A Fruity taste eh ? Thank Ewe for the explanation Mr Bikerman. Do ewe think, that a real ale would be a gentle introduction into the ale/lager/beer fraternity for a tea-totaller like me ? The fact that it may be 'fruity' is somewhat appealing !
Well, it's a very serious business drinking real ale. You first need to get yourself a nice cardigan and, preferably a duffel coat. Then you need to grow a beard and moustache. Finally you need to learn the specific gravity of a couple of hundred ales :-)

Seriously - you might like to try some of the Christmas ales that normally appear at this time of the year - normally very alcoholic though...

Thanks Bikerman....I may indulge in some Chrimbo festive Juice but if it's Christmassy it probably has stuff like Cinnamon, cloves and cardamon  and Chrimbo flavours  ! ..yuk !
 

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« Reply #22 on: 26/11/2008 20:22:47 »
Ideally this ale should be stored in a pyramidal fridge...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tutankhamunale.JPG

Do the hieroglyphics say "do not drink and drive a chariot"  :)

Nice ale !!

After ewe imbibed a few are ewe supposed to crawl into the box in search of your Mummy ! ?

If you drink too many you feel like your brain has been removed...

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Occasionally embalmers would break the bone behind the nose,
and break the brain into small pieces in order that it could be pulled out through the nasal passage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummy

 
 

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« Reply #23 on: 27/11/2008 01:33:15 »
Thanks Bikerman....I may indulge in some Chrimbo festive Juice but if it's Christmassy it probably has stuff like Cinnamon, cloves and cardamon  and Chrimbo flavours  ! ..yuk !
No, nothing of the sort.  You won't find any of that in a traditional Christmas ale.
A couple to look out for;
Santa's Nuts (Fox Brewery) - nutty and malty, luvverly.
Rudolph's Revenge (Cropton Brewery) - a proper bitter ale, nice hoppy finish.
 

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