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#### allien

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##### Zerre Theory
« on: 16/12/2008 22:49:28 »
This study do not contain complex mathematic equations, imeginary particles and dimensions. But it is very unusual.

Why it is theory? Because I hope to be.

My particle is Zerre, origin of the mass. But I will start from quarks to make it easy.
My quarks are Zerre quarks. I called them as z-quarks.

What is the type and mass of the z-quarks?

When we investigate decays and N.R. all the thing produced is;
electron, positron, photon (electron-positron interaction) and neutrino.

when you investigate decays whithout neutrino you see again,
electron, positron, photon (electron-positron interaction)

neutrino-less decay modes.

So type of quarks according to product side;
electron - positron - electron
or
positron - electron - positron

electron - positron couple could be photon or neutrino.
Which means neutrino also interaction of electron and positron

That is why, neutrino defined as irregular and photon is defined as regular energy.

So (1/3) of the quark mass defines net load.
and (2/3) of the quark mass polarised.
So quarks are negative or positive according to their effective loads.

when quarks decays, they produce;
electron + positron + electron
or
positron + electron + positron
or
electron + photon
or
positron + photon
or
electron + neutrino
or
positron + neutrino
All of them shows the decay alternatives of positive or negative quarks.

What is the z-quark mass? Three times electron?
No...
Because electron is not taken as rigid particle.

Mass of the z-quark is found from the acception of that;
there is one (negative) z-quark differance between neutron and proton.

Neutron mass : 939,56563 MeV
Proton mass : 938,27231 MeV
Z-quark mass : 001,29332 MeV

z-quark mass is 1,3MeV. So I define the loads in quarks as quark electron and quark positron.

quark electron mass : (1,3/3)= 0,43MeV
quark positron mass : (1,3/3)= 0,43MeV
standart electron mass --------: 0,51MeV

The charge of the quark electron and quark positron could not found.
They could be same charge like ordinary electron or could be propotionaly less than electron.
(Even they could have bigger load than electron.)

load of quark electron : 1e or (0,43/0,51)e =0,84e or somewhere there.  [:o)]

Negative z-quark is down quark in S.M. (load is (1/3) electron.)
Positive z-quark is up quark in S.M. (load is (2/3) positron.)

in S.M. down quak double of up quark as mass and charge.
in z-quarks both mass and loads are same quantity.

if you assume nucleons made from only z-quarks, you found as;
726,49 z-quarks in neutron and 725,49 z-quarks in proton.

0,49 says that z-quark mass is wrong or there is something else in the nucleons.
Since gluons do not accepted according to the theory, I define this as sheild of the nucleus.

Neither z-quark mass nor sheild mass did not found exactly.
But as a range, z-quark mass is 0,0013887u (+/- 0,0000007u).

#### Bored chemist

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##### Zerre Theory
« Reply #1 on: 17/12/2008 18:52:51 »
"This study do not contain complex mathematic equations"
and is therfore likely to be ignored.
If you can show us how it produces testable predictions then let us know.

#### allien

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##### Zerre Theory
« Reply #2 on: 18/12/2008 11:27:17 »
t.y. for your comment.

Theory does not have and need complex math equations. Only lattice structure of nucleons need mathematical model and formulation. Geometric model for the iner orbital is thought as dual tetrahedron for neutron and proton.

Yes theory defines some predictions, could tested in the experiments. But you know this is not simple experiments to do.
I could say some of them. If you know about it, could you please inform me also.

According to hypotesis;
two proton impact could not produce deuterium. A quark provider needed for this reaction at the same enviroment. Provider could be pion or muon.

So Sun reaction is not two proton reaction. If there is no quark provider in the reaction, than 3 or 4 even 5 proton impact causing the reactions and producing deuterium and hellium-3.

If tritium bombarded with proton, hellium-3 and anti-proton occured.
(if none of the atom do not lost its integrty by impact.)

If you have any information about these, I would be gratefull to hear.

#### allien

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##### Zerre Theory
« Reply #3 on: 18/12/2008 11:41:29 »
Hypothesis is not only related with Micro Cosmos, also Macro Cosmos.
Here is a part of my fiction about macro Cosmos.

The elements until Germanium is formed by fusion in a surrounding, which has similar ratio of proton and neutron or proton dominant environment.

Remnant elements (Li,Be,B) are produced at neutron dominant environment (at least big, stable isotopes of the elements). Also argon is exception (Argon40 > Argon36).

When we ignore this exceptions, smaller isotopes of the elements have great ratio against bigger isotopes of the same elements.

For the heavier elements than germanium, this turns opposite. Only zirconium, But this does not upset to generalization.

Zinc
Zn-64 abundance: 48,6          Zn-64+ Zn-66= 76,5
Zn-66 abundance: 27,9
Zn-67 abundance: 04,1
Zn-68 abundance: 18,8        Zn-68+ Zn-70= 19,5
Zn-70 abundance: 00,6

Germanium
Ge-70 abundance: 20,8         Ge-70+ Ge-72= 48,3
Ge-72 abundance: 27,5
Ge-73 abundance: 07,7
Ge-74 abundance: 36,3         Ge-74+ Ge-76= 43,9
Ge-76 abundance: 07,6

Selenium
Se-74 abundance: 00,9         Se-74+ Se-76+ Se-77 = 17,9
Se-76 abundance: 09,4
Se-77 abundance: 07,6
Se-78 abundance: 23,8         Se-78+ Se-80+ Se-82 = 82,1
Se-80 abundance: 49,6
Se-82 abundance: 08,7

So there are at least two types of occurring proses. One of them is fusion. But the other is not fast (or slow) neutron capture proses. Because small stable isotopes are less abundance than big ones.

If neutron capture proses was right, abundance must gradually decrease when we go higher isotopes. But it is opposite nearly for all elements.

Iron-56 catches 18 neutron to form Se-74.
Iron-56 catches 26 neutron to form Se-82.
So catching 18 neutron is more possible than catching 26 neutron by iron. But Se-82 is ten times much than Se-74.

I would be pleasure to hear from peoples who related with this area also.

#### lyner

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##### Zerre Theory
« Reply #4 on: 18/12/2008 15:29:18 »
So, if there isn't any Maths associated with this idea, did you just make up all the numbers?

#### allien

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##### Zerre Theory
« Reply #5 on: 18/12/2008 21:10:08 »
So, if there isn't any Maths associated with this idea, did you just make up all the numbers?

No. but since it is easy I did not write it.

Neutrino is interaction of electron and positron. clue:neutrinoless decay of muon.

Neutron has one (negative) z-quark different from proton. Since decay of neutron produces one electron and neutrino (electron+positron).

Neutron mass : 939,56563 MeV
Proton mass : 938,27231 MeV
Z-quark mass : 001,29332 MeV

With the average value of z-quark 1,29332 MeV, you could put 726 z-quark in neutron and 725 z-quark in proton. (when you divide it with neutron and proton mass)

The clues about nucleons shield are;
Electron particles do not drop to nucleus. (I assume as electron is not single rigid particle)
Neutron dencity is not so big and also neutron proton mixture.
Ionic radius much more than nucleus radius.
Free neutron and proton does not interact easily.
even neutron neutral according to loads, it shows small amount of negative load.(1/500)e

So I assume mass resource of nucleons are mainly z-quarks and shield, nothing else.
And,neither z-quark mass nor shield mass did not found exactly.
But as a range, z-quark mass is 0,0013887u (+/- 0,0000007u).

If you do not understand any of the assumption or value, please make it clear for me.

#### Bored chemist

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##### Zerre Theory
« Reply #6 on: 18/12/2008 21:17:25 »
"No. but since it is easy I did not write it."
For the benefit of those of us too dense to understand without an explanation, please show this easy maths.

I'd also like you to clarify "even neutron neutral according to loads, it shows small amount of negative load.(1/500)e"

If you mean that the neutron has a small negative charge, please explain why this does not show up in the spectra of, for example, hydrogen and deuterium.

#### allien

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##### Zerre Theory
« Reply #7 on: 18/12/2008 22:23:55 »
"If you mean that the neutron has a small negative charge, please explain why this does not show up in the spectra of, for example, hydrogen and deuterium."

This not my acception. I looked my notes, it was written there -0,4 E-21 Coulomb for neutron. sorry but I did not write the resource of it.
But it is not only argument for the presence of shield, even it is wrong.

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##### Zerre Theory
« Reply #7 on: 18/12/2008 22:23:55 »