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« Reply #75 on: 11/03/2009 03:34:12 »
Steve---
Glad to see you are doing well. As Girlwind has mentioned, POIS is also just "The Tip of the Iceberg" for me also. My major concern is an anxiety condition that has not lifted in 22 months now. Sometimes I get quite depressed and dizzy. Orgasmic sexuality is my LEAST concern. Today I had a fabulous day as I was able to meditate far out on a jetty in the ocean for 2 hours. A squirrel was sunbathing next to me.
I have taken a break from swimming, as I need to rest my Trapezius muscles that may be causing some of my anxiety. My major goal is simple: Peace of Mind
As you noticed, I have not commented on the effects of arousal with respects to orgasmic sexuality. But I do know that for me, arousal is the cause of considerable inflammation and discomfort, even without ejaculation. This is because my nervous system does not specifically differentiate between certain sexual stimulation. Simply put, high levels of stimulation cause intense, disabling responses, and low levels cause low levels of uncomfortable responses. I'm trying to stay away from all stimulation now and just get back to a more tranquil existence. HELLO GIRLWIND IF YOU READ THIS
 

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« Reply #76 on: 11/03/2009 05:33:09 »
Steve---
Glad to see you are doing well.  Orgasmic sexuality is my LEAST concern. As you noticed, I have not commented on the effects of arousal with respects to orgasmic sexuality. But I do know that for me, arousal is the cause of considerable inflammation and discomfort, even without ejaculation. This is because my nervous system does not specifically differentiate between certain sexual stimulation.  My major goal is simple: Peace of Mind

Underwater,

So glad to hear from you. Orgasmic sexuality  does not concern me in the least,either . It will be 22 months on Thursday since I was orgasmically sexual. However, my nervous system can distinguish between different phases of sexuality in increasing levels of intensity, very subtly and very clearly. The more intense the sexual activity, the more dopamine is produced in my brain, the more hungover I feel...Very, very simple. As for my major goal. It is as yours is...peace of mind. For me, I find it one way only...surrendering sexuality, one day at a time.

Currently, my partner and I have genital contact, without orgasm, of course, for two days and then have a 'rest day' That is our pattern. So, I have peace typically every third day.Today is anomalous for us in that it is the fourth rest day in a row, by choice.

Once again, So glad to hear from you.

Steve D.
 

PS>>>I have taken a break from swimming.
I've actually just started taking swimming lessons for the first time in 45 years and am enjoying it!
 

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« Reply #77 on: 11/03/2009 05:39:24 »
Girlwind,

Thank you for the links. I am grateful and am reading through them all, one at a time.

Hope you are healthy and thriving. I am able to leave some of the health issues behind, a little bit at a time, and just begin to do more 'normal' things like work on my career and make money. I couldn't do that, wisely, without dealing first with POIS, anemia and food ...but, I am reasonably happy with all those issues now. Whew!

Thanks for being a part of that, for me.

Your friend,

Steve D.
 

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« Reply #78 on: 13/03/2009 14:10:39 »
Six days of rest days in a row!

It's been challenging and very productive for me...
 

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« Reply #79 on: 14/03/2009 03:27:58 »
Girlwind,

Thank you for the links. I am grateful and am reading through them all, one at a time.

Hope you are healthy and thriving. I am able to leave some of the health issues behind, a little bit at a time, and just begin to do more 'normal' things like work on my career and make money. I couldn't do that, wisely, without dealing first with POIS, anemia and food ...but, I am reasonably happy with all those issues now. Whew!

Thanks for being a part of that, for me.

Your friend,

Steve D.

Hi Steve--

I have been very involved in learning the art of balancing hormones, particularly cortisol. It's a LOT more complex
than I thought and requires a serious commitment to daily monitoring. I take my temperature 3 times a day and
graph it. I take my blood pressure at least once a day--sitting, then standing. I have to pay very close attention
to what I'm eating--high protein, low carbs, and plenty of Emergen-C, to keep potassium and sodium at optimal
levels, and to keep my blood sugar stable. I have to be very careful about how much I exercise, as my adrenals heal.

I have gotten a lot of good info on the topic of adrenals and thyroid, much of which I've passed along to you here.

I have not yet even begun to treat my thyroid yet, but am ever so s-l-o-w-l-y working up to that point. As I have
learned from other thyroid patients on other forums, the adrenals need to be at an optimal level BEFORE you begin
thyroid hormone, or it will not be tolerated. With that there is a risk of side  effects like palpitations and anxiety,
which I prefer to pass on!

The POIS is very secondary to me now. The big issue is my long term CFS, which along with POIS, are just symptoms
of the hormones being in various states of deficiency. I'm so glad to be on the right track--finally. It only took 31
years.

Good luck with all your "normal" things. I will check in some other time to see what's up. 
 

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« Reply #80 on: 15/03/2009 16:07:28 »
Steve---
Glad to see you are doing well. As Girlwind has mentioned, POIS is also just "The Tip of the Iceberg" for me also. My major concern is an anxiety condition that has not lifted in 22 months now. Sometimes I get quite depressed and dizzy. Orgasmic sexuality is my LEAST concern. Today I had a fabulous day as I was able to meditate far out on a jetty in the ocean for 2 hours. A squirrel was sunbathing next to me.

HELLO GIRLWIND IF YOU READ THIS

Hello Underwater-- Some of your symptoms remind me of mine. You might want to read up on the
adrenals and get your cortisol levels tested. I posted a lot of good articles here and on the POIS site.
Good luck whatever you do.  ~GW
 

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« Reply #81 on: 15/03/2009 22:37:39 »
Eight days of perfect chastity...and all the power, clarity, intuition, resilience and vision that accompanies it.

Ended it last night. Fun, but costly. No orgasm, of course.

It's all 'bout choices... 
 

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« Reply #82 on: 19/03/2009 08:57:51 »
My partner and I have agreed on a 10 day sexual abstinence period starting yesterday, Wednesday March 18.
I have some career opportunites coming up that I want to be present for and I don't want SIS (sexual illness syndrome) to interfere with my being at the very most optimum I can be.
I am grateful to my partner for her graciousness, unselfishness and willingness.

Steve D.
 

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« Reply #83 on: 15/08/2009 19:08:06 »

I have had POIS for at least 20 years. My psychiatrist told me that these symptoms although rare, has been found among patients who suffer with major depressive disorder (neuro transmitter imbalance). The anti-depressant medications have never helped relieve these specific symptoms, and Ive been on all of them. Since some of these symptom are similar to those of an allergic reaction, I have experimented, by treating the POIS with antihistamine. There is one that helps relieve the intensity of the symtoms by at least 85%, it is called Loratadine. It is an over the counter antihistamine allergy medication(CVS store brand, less expensive) that will last for 24 hours. Note: Should be Loratadine 10mg. I will take 1 hour before or short time after orgasm. Since my symptoms last about 3 days, I will take a 2nd dose after 21 hours, then a 3rd dose after another 21 hours. I will feel 85% symptom free during those 3 days and until next orgasm. I hope that sharing this information can be helpful.
 

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« Reply #84 on: 25/06/2010 06:40:56 »
I have not posted for 18 months. 9 months ago I completely stopped being sexual with my partner and all signs of Pre-orgasmic illness (25% of the problem) and Post Orgasmic Illness (75% of the problem) disappeared. There has been no pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization, no depression, no fatigue, no confusion...nothing, absolutely no signs. This tells me that this problem is, for this particular class of individual (Me), only solved with complete sexual abstinence...exactly like that of an alcoholic.

What baffled me so, 18 months ago, on the POIS board was the complete unwillingness to consider chronic masturbation as as addiction, an illness that requires specific 12 step treatment. I've seen what sex addicts in their disease are like with their white rage and control and want no part of that type of abuse I experienced 18 months ago.

But, the truth remains the truth, regardless of control, rage and abuse.

I have not masturbated for 20 years this Saturday June 26th 2010...and that helped me greatly. It taught me that if I could not stop doing something that was hurting me I needed to get help, and I had the humility to do that, 20 years ago.

It did not solve the problem completely. Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.

Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.

All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop?

There are four sexual addiction programs in the world that can help you. If you have an individual, who you are letting control you, which stops you from getting the help you need, you may need to go to CODA first, to get away from him.

Live free...it's your right

Steve D.
 
 

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« Reply #85 on: 25/06/2010 18:13:14 »

What baffled me so, 18 months ago, on the POIS board was the complete unwillingness to consider chronic masturbation as as addiction
 

You have absolutely no evidence of POIS as a chronic masturbation phenomenon.

Many sufferers are loving and happily married men and even for procreation purposes still suffer the agonizing and devastating aftereffects of POIS.

Please check your facts more carefully. Thank you.
 

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« Reply #86 on: 25/06/2010 18:29:57 »

Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.

Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.

All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop?
 

The "POIS BOYS" have also discovered that being a eunuch doesn't solve the problem either.

We are sexual beings, given nature's gift of orgasm.

Several of us have found wonderful solutions with "patches, pills, etc.", and on the verge of finding even better ones.

Not to hide a problem, but to SOLVE a neurochemical/physiological problem, i.e., hormal imbalance, neurotransmitter deficiency and the like.
 

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« Reply #87 on: 01/12/2011 06:44:39 »
I have this...
 

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« Reply #88 on: 19/01/2012 14:44:44 »

Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.

Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.

All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop?
 

The "POIS BOYS" have also discovered that being a eunuch doesn't solve the problem either.

We are sexual beings, given nature's gift of orgasm.

Several of us have found wonderful solutions with "patches, pills, etc.", and on the verge of finding even better ones.

Not to hide a problem, but to SOLVE a neurochemical/physiological problem, i.e., hormal imbalance, neurotransmitter deficiency and the like.


I believe sexuality and orgasm to be nature's (god's?) gift and don't intend to give up sex. POIS and other issues has slowed down the regularity of sex for me.
I have successfully been down the sexual addiction recovery route too and it has helped in some ways but not with POIS. The aim there was to have an emotionally healthy sexual life which i believe i have. I have wondered if it is related to my POIS at times, perhaps from overindulging in 'O' frequency in my teens and early twenties (O's once a day on average). The condition may have been pre-existing and completely un-related to this however. The etiology seems complex and may be different for different people.

Sex addiction, like CFS, may be related to POIS for some people, maybe not.

The physical reasons for this really need researching and I have just contacted Dr Goldmeier in London (local to me) asking him for an appointment.
 

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« Reply #89 on: 20/01/2012 03:09:32 »

Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.

Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.

All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop?
 

The "POIS BOYS" have also discovered that being a eunuch doesn't solve the problem either.

We are sexual beings, given nature's gift of orgasm.

Several of us have found wonderful solutions with "patches, pills, etc.", and on the verge of finding even better ones.

Not to hide a problem, but to SOLVE a neurochemical/physiological problem, i.e., hormal imbalance, neurotransmitter deficiency and the like.


I believe sexuality and orgasm to be nature's (god's?) gift and don't intend to give up sex. POIS and other issues has slowed down the regularity of sex for me.
I have successfully been down the sexual addiction recovery route too and it has helped in some ways but not with POIS. The aim there was to have an emotionally healthy sexual life which i believe i have. I have wondered if it is related to my POIS at times, perhaps from overindulging in 'O' frequency in my teens and early twenties (O's once a day on average). The condition may have been pre-existing and completely un-related to this however. The etiology seems complex and may be different for different people.

Sex addiction, like CFS, may be related to POIS for some people, maybe not.

The physical reasons for this really need researching and I have just contacted Dr Goldmeier in London (local to me) asking him for an appointment.

Sex can be a very beatiful and spiritually uplifting thing.   I respect the fact you found a way to deal with the situation.  Part of the acceptance philosophy is to accept that something has worked for others.

Abstenance does not work for me.  I get the nightly emission if I abstain for long, period.  So why pay for not eating the beautiful fruit just if one had? 

Also histamines are at play here.  With longer abstenance ysex drive increases, specially with enviornmental allergens such as spring, mold, etc.   Then it becomes a inflamation issue of great proportions.  If I do not clear my system I feel progressively weaker.  So different things work for different people.
 

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« Reply #90 on: 02/09/2012 11:12:03 »

Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.

Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.

All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop?
 

The "POIS BOYS" have also discovered that being a eunuch doesn't solve the problem either.

We are sexual beings, given nature's gift of orgasm.

Several of us have found wonderful solutions with "patches, pills, etc.", and on the verge of finding even better ones.

Not to hide a problem, but to SOLVE a neurochemical/physiological problem, i.e., hormal imbalance, neurotransmitter deficiency and the like.


I believe sexuality and orgasm to be nature's (god's?) gift and don't intend to give up sex. POIS and other issues has slowed down the regularity of sex for me.
I have successfully been down the sexual addiction recovery route too and it has helped in some ways but not with POIS. The aim there was to have an emotionally healthy sexual life which i believe i have. I have wondered if it is related to my POIS at times, perhaps from overindulging in 'O' frequency in my teens and early twenties (O's once a day on average). The condition may have been pre-existing and completely un-related to this however. The etiology seems complex and may be different for different people.

Sex addiction, like CFS, may be related to POIS for some people, maybe not.

The physical reasons for this really need researching and I have just contacted Dr Goldmeier in London (local to me) asking him for an appointment.

Sex can be a very beatiful and spiritually uplifting thing.   I respect the fact you found a way to deal with the situation.  Part of the acceptance philosophy is to accept that something has worked for others.

Abstenance does not work for me.  I get the nightly emission if I abstain for long, period.  So why pay for not eating the beautiful fruit just if one had? 

Also histamines are at play here.  With longer abstenance ysex drive increases, specially with enviornmental allergens such as spring, mold, etc.   Then it becomes a inflamation issue of great proportions.  If I do not clear my system I feel progressively weaker.  So different things work for different people.

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Sex is a beautiful thing. Agreed...God was having a fine day at the office when he/she invented sex...LOL!!!

Wine is a beautiful thing , too...for most people. Some people are alcoholics though and wine is very bad for them.
Sugar is very fun and sweet, but some people are food addicts and they are allergic to it. They feel 'pitifully and incomprehensibly demoralized" whenever they eat sugar.

  The addiction model, is infinitely more successful, for me, than the medication model that the POIS boys use.
  I am grateful to them for their interest in Waldinger's discoveries, but no one is successful at treatment over there. I care about successfully solving this problem. I do NOT care if it is the way that I want it to be solved. That is simply selfish, stupid and immature.
  What I do know is that complete abstinence solves the problem, so the question, for me, is how to accept this solution and learn to live happily and contentedly. I have learned to do that the last three years...and I have not had one trace of the phenomenally devastating effects of POIS that ruined my life for four decades.
   ;)Once again, my hat is off to the courage and strength of the POIS boys stick-to-it-ive-ness.
Be careful with them though. Despite their claim to scientific objectivity, they become enraged when you don't agree with them...
 

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