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« Reply #25 on: 03/03/2009 23:14:35 »
And there are supposed to be 9 intelligences. More soon, I am sure. Humpback whales may not do well in the same categories than humans. And vice versa.
 

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« Reply #26 on: 04/03/2009 17:33:33 »
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Speaking from a hypothetical evolutionary standpoint, do you think that if whales (or any other animal) had developed hands they will be more advanced?
If hands were the ultimate evolutionary necessity, wouldn’t every species eventually evolve to have hands?

 

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« Reply #27 on: 04/03/2009 18:18:41 »
I don't believe that hands are an evolutionary necessity. Claws are much more useful for a predator such as a lion. Humans and other apes are descended from tree-dwelling animals for whom hands would greatly assist their ability to climb and grasp.

As for humpbacks developing hands; would hands be that useful for an aquatic creature? Surely, flippers that enable it to swim and manouevre better in the water would be far better. What use would a humpback have for hands for them to evolve?
 

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« Reply #28 on: 05/03/2009 08:50:36 »
Our hands have given us the opportunity to put many of our ideas into practice. Without them, we would probably not be the same animal as we are today. In my estimation, they are the most important development in man which sets us apart from other animals. While other species can and do utilise rudimentary tools to great effect, none have produced such sophisticated tools as man.

But I have to concur with Doctor Beaver, what use would hands, such as ours, be to a Tiger or Whale? The fact is, they would be an immense draw-back. Perhaps, rather than asking 'Do animals use tools?' the question should be looked at from a different perspective. Perhaps the question should be 'What use are tools to animals?'

Would Dolphins have benefited from inventing flipper friendly tools such as a saw, screwdriver and soldering iron? Only if they wanted to invent a means to produce a long distance communication device which would also double as means to find and herd fish to make them easier to catch. This they did need, but their answer to this problem was to develop a built-in tool. Their clicks can be used for short or long distance communication, as an echo locating device and as a weapon to herd and even stun their prey. One built-in tool with many uses. Man had to develop cumbersome drums to communicate over such distances, telescopes, radar and sonar to locate objectives over such distances and in sometimes poor visibility. We had to enrol the assistance of dogs and horses to help us herd even our farmed livestock and the spear, bow & arrow, fishing net and finally the gun to kill them so we can eat them.

I think the Dolphin’s solution was far superior to man’s. And the Dolphin is not alone in developing built-in tools. Claws, beaks, pincers, teeth, jaws, trunks, horns, antlers, stings...... are these not built-in tools, each adapted for their own individual purpose? Each suited to a particular way of life?
 

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« Reply #29 on: 11/03/2009 04:23:21 »
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A chimpanzee who collected a stash of rocks and hurled them at zoo visitors in fits of rage has confirmed apes can plan ahead just like humans, experts say. The 31-year-old alpha male began building his weapons cache in the morning before the zoo opened, collecting rocks and knocking out discs from concrete boulders in his enclosure.

Then at midday he would unleash a "hailstorm" of rocks at visitors, the Swedish study found.

Seemingly at ease with his position as leader of the group, Santino did not attack the other chimpanzees.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090310/twl-rock-chucking-chimp-proves-apes-plan-3fd0ae9.html
 

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« Reply #30 on: 11/03/2009 05:44:52 »
I saw one time a chipmunk grab a twig with two hands and then hit another one across the head with it then they both ran it was awseome and really funny!
 

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« Reply #31 on: 11/03/2009 06:02:28 »
The Chimpanzee at the zoo here has passed on now but when I was small girl he would huck poop at The kids that mocked him or teased him!
 

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« Reply #32 on: 11/03/2009 06:04:44 »
The Chimpanzee at the zoo here has passed on now but when I was small girl he would huck poop at The kids that mocked him or teased him!
lol my brother was calling the birds smelly in the toledo zoo when he was younger and then wham 3 birds left a "LOAD" on him right after he said it lol
 

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« Reply #33 on: 11/03/2009 06:47:00 »
LOL...I was bombarded by a whole flock of birds who had been eating local berries but they flew over me like black death a huge shadow shading the sun and they all dropped their loads on me at the same time.. like planned attack from the bowels bombarded me on my way to my brothers wedding in my pink floral gown.... We had to go back wash it and dry it before he could start his wedding... Was horrible!

Anyway does that qualify as a tool..

Gorillas use sticks to dig for ants in ant hills etc..
 

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« Reply #34 on: 11/03/2009 10:21:49 »
Gorillas use sticks to dig for ants in ant hills etc..

Liar liar pants on fire!

Grillas ar vejiterian.
 

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« Reply #35 on: 11/03/2009 10:24:55 »
Gorillas use sticks to dig for ants in ant hills etc..

Liar liar pants on fire!

Grillas ar vejiterian.

They don't eat them, they just like annoying them!
 

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« Reply #36 on: 11/03/2009 13:53:51 »
More tools..... This time the are involved in the process of making them!!


 

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« Reply #37 on: 11/03/2009 14:07:08 »
Gorillas use sticks to dig for ants in ant hills etc..

Liar liar pants on fire!

Grillas ar vejiterian.

They don't eat them, they just like annoying them!

Ah, that could explain it. Naughty, aggravating grillas!

« Last Edit: 11/03/2009 14:08:53 by DoctorBeaver »
 

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« Reply #38 on: 11/03/2009 14:21:46 »
I like grillas, here's a nice one.


And here's a lovely water otter
 

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« Reply #39 on: 11/03/2009 14:24:15 »
I like grillas, here's a nice one.


Is that the foreman or just a chargehand?
 

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« Reply #40 on: 11/03/2009 14:27:08 »
We've buggered this thread now. Is there no end to our malice!
« Last Edit: 11/03/2009 14:29:23 by DoctorBeaver »
 

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« Reply #41 on: 11/03/2009 14:42:20 »
I like grillas, here's a nice one.


Is that the foreman or just a chargehand?

No, this is the chargehand, and just look at how much it's been charged!!!
 

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« Reply #42 on: 11/03/2009 15:07:04 »
We've buggered this thread now. Is there no end to our malice!

How odd, I was just thinking the same and looking to see who started the silliness. Not sure if was Neil, RD or some Beaver. Shame, it started as a good, serious thread but degenerated into the usual claptrap. Ah well! C'est la vie.
 

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« Reply #43 on: 11/03/2009 16:10:38 »
Hey everyone; yes animals use tools, to answer the first post.

Chimps use sticks to dig out termites and also sharpen sticks to hunt bush babies to eat. They also use rocks to open nuts and eat them.

newbielink:http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/04/chimps-with-spears/mary-roach-text [nonactive]

newbielink:http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=3134 [nonactive]


I am sure there are more examples.
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« Reply #44 on: 11/03/2009 17:49:37 »
We've buggered this thread now. Is there no end to our malice!

naaaaa, you just made it more fun... the science is still there...  ;-)
 

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« Reply #46 on: 27/05/2009 04:08:40 »
I haven't read the whole thread but I hope someone has mentioned the elephants..
 

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