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Did Adam and Eve have sex before marriage?
« on: 18/04/2009 17:05:14 »
I thought this was a science forum. Anyway... No matter....

Did Adam and Eve have sex before marriage?


 

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« Reply #1 on: 18/04/2009 18:23:06 »
I am trying to work out where it should belong,if it should actually belong anywhere?

Answers on a postcard :)
 

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« Reply #2 on: 18/04/2009 22:38:28 »
In answer to the original question:  It depends upon your definition of what the marriage ceremony requires but because there was nobody else who could have married them, unless they married themselves, they must have been unmarried.
 

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« Reply #3 on: 18/04/2009 23:01:34 »
A Christian ceremony, no doubt.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 18/04/2009 23:53:28 »
Heh - I suppose that God could have married them, but wouldn't they have still needed a witness?
 

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« Reply #5 on: 19/04/2009 15:33:37 »
This question should be in another forum altogerther, but , in the interests of closing the timewasting discussion.
According to the bible they were married.
" For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
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Since Eve is described as "his wife" they must have been married.

You see, the Devil really can quote scripture.
 

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« Reply #6 on: 21/04/2009 12:12:50 »
Is this posted in new theories?
Where is the theory?
Or is it just another stupid topic, in the wrong section of the forum, a science forum where the topic has nothing to do with science.

to quote Rosy
"More to the point, what on earth is this doing in a science forum?"

more to the point, why are the moderators, admin, allowing it? and why are they so slow to move it?


I think he  doesn't know where to discuss the topic
 

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« Reply #7 on: 21/04/2009 12:59:11 »
In my opinion, while most of the books in the Bible may contain an element of truth or be loosely based on actual events, the book of Genesis cannot be counted among them. I don't believe a reporter from the Daily Qfvggbh of the planet Zog came to witness and record the event, so who wrote the book, when, where, why and where did he/she/they get their information from?

It's probably also the case that translations from ancient scriptures are wrong. Adam probably meant Men, not an individual man. Likewise Eve meant Women, not an individual woman.

According to the Bible, Leviticus 18:6 & 20:11 - 14 for example, incest is a sin, so how could we all be descended from just one man and one woman with God being the instrument of the perpetration of that sin?

You might also consider the genetic horror of inbreeding over the 6000 years which the Bible seems to think is how long Mankind and this entire universe has existed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding

Another reason why the Creation doesn't work.
« Last Edit: 21/04/2009 13:01:02 by Don_1 »
 

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« Reply #8 on: 21/04/2009 23:06:32 »
The way I see it, but the bible is so vague you can see it how you like, God said "don't eat apples from the tree of knowledge." This meant "don't start playing with each others naughty bits as it will lead to full blown sex." Well snakes will be snakes and they did the dirty deed. Before this there was no need for marriage as marriage is for the soul perpose for having children but once they had bonked then god stopped them from being imortal and then they could have babies. Once they could have babies then marriage was introduced. So no, they didn't have sex before marriage because marriage wasn't invented. It is like saying "Lets go back to the drawing board" when you are inventing the drawing board. Enough said.
 

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« Reply #9 on: 22/04/2009 01:48:54 »
I am concerned about the inbreeding, are we all decended from the one couple?

My other big problem is that Adam and Eve only begat (biblical term) Kane and Abel (there was another son but he got murdered and there wasn't a huge list of suspects). I have to wonder who Kane and Abel had sex with as there was only one woman on the planet. I'm guessing a lot here but I guess homosex hadn't been part of gods seven days of activity, or six if you forget about his day off.

Was the apple tree a Granny Smith? That opens a whole new can of worms (or snakes). Is the bible meant to confuse us or just to be used as a door stop?

 

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« Reply #10 on: 22/04/2009 23:19:53 »
I think the vegetable-related foot-covering has got his twickers in a knist. Cain murdered Abel and eventually disappeared off into the land of Nod where he found himself a wife. The question has always been, if Adam & Eve were the first humans, how did Cain's wife get there? Was his wife non-human?
 

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« Reply #11 on: 23/04/2009 08:10:18 »
Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons? The weren't born after all.
 

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« Reply #12 on: 23/04/2009 08:17:59 »
o this is stupic topic atleast in my sight. one thing is that it is not related to science forum topics or discussion, another thing is, it may cause hurt to the religious persons who are aslo members of this site, great damage may be taken to this site,
so plz be in limit of everything, because non related things have never got value.
 

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« Reply #13 on: 23/04/2009 08:29:47 »
Nazeer - 2 points:

1) If you notice, this topic is in "Chat" and so falls outside of the usual tight scientific remit from the other areas of the forum

2) Why should something not be said in case it "offends" someones belief system. Somehow religion has gained some sort of a trump card, where if you dispute a persons religious position, you are offending them. This is nonsense. Would you be offended if I had an alternate position about politics? I doubt it very much. So, no. People should be allowed to formally express their opinion, irrespective of someone else's beliefs, especially if it can be supported by evidence.
 

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« Reply #14 on: 23/04/2009 11:45:41 »
Why an apple?, it was the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.
 

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« Reply #15 on: 23/04/2009 13:38:04 »
The biblical story tells that God forbade them to take the forbidden fruit, it does not say what that fruit is.

Oh now that's disgusting!!!
 

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« Reply #16 on: 23/04/2009 13:42:38 »
Why on Earth did you post it then!? :D
 

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« Reply #17 on: 23/04/2009 13:45:34 »
Does it say anywhere whether they had sex after they were married? Or did they just join the local bridge club.
 

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« Reply #18 on: 28/04/2009 20:13:39 »
In Genesis Abraham's son sees and immediately takes his wife, it seems at first sight. Adam could do no wrong, naked and in paradise, there was only one thing he could do wrong, his nature was perfect. In God's presence seeing his wife, or to be, it was surely mentioned to Elohim in some way, very ritual free, natural, and she was his, in God's will. Unless the tree of knowledge of good and evil meant sexual carnal knowledge, but I think it was actual fruit, not sex.
 

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« Reply #19 on: 29/04/2009 01:06:16 »
Wiki says that Adam had 33 sons and 23 daughters.

Christmas must have been hell for that poor man.
« Last Edit: 29/04/2009 01:08:26 by turnipsock »
 

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« Reply #20 on: 29/04/2009 09:29:38 »
What would his credit card statement have been like????

56 birthday prezzy's, Christmas prezzy's, easter eggs..... sheesh!!! And what about the grandchildren??? How many of them did he have to buy for? Considering he lived to the ripe old age of 930, he must have spent all his later years in the local shopping mall.
 

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« Reply #21 on: 29/04/2009 12:24:50 »
or pillaging the giants ....
 

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