# The Naked Scientists Forum

### Author Topic: Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./  (Read 3420 times)

#### socratus

• Sr. Member
• Posts: 329
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« on: 24/04/2009 18:51:09 »
Time and Quantum of Light.  / My opinion./

Can Time Exist Without Matter?
1.
According to Newton the answer is “ Yes”.
2.
According to SRT and GRT the answer is “ No”.
3.
Who is right? Who is wrong?
What is the resolution of this apparent paradox?
===========================..

There are two kinds of time:
a) the proper (individual) time and
b) the planetary time.
They are so familiar that we rarely give them thought.
Don’t we know, that time for living being is limited
and the planetary time is absolute for them ? It is.
Maybe therefore Newton declared that time is absolute.
It “ flows equably without relation to  anything external”
he wrote in 1687. But Einstein had another opinion.
He wanted to know: “ Where does the conception of time
come from?”, “ What is the essence of time?”.
And to explain these questions he created two theories:
SRT and GRT and declared that time is relative, changeable.
1.
SRT explains behavior and the proper time of light
quanta /electron. Why do I think so?
a)
One law (postulate) of SRT says that speed of light quanta
is constant c=1. Second law ( postulate ) says no another particle
can reach this speed. So there are two incommensurable
quantities. Is it possible to bind them together? No. I was
taught at school from the first class  that the incommensurable
quantities cannot be compared. The connection between these
incommensurable quantities is similar to  the decision of a
problem: “What will be if the  whale attacks the elephant?”
We can see whale in a ocean and elephant in a savanna,
but they never meet and fight in the same “ frame of reference”.
And the same is about light quanta and another particles.
We cannot see them together in SRT. We can meet only the
light quanta in SRT and  no other particles in it.
b)
SRT was born from Maxwell's theory and it is a continuation
of the electrodynamics’ development . The electron is a main
and single hero in the Maxwell's theory and SRT. There
isn't the Maxwell's theory / SRT without electron.
It is not correct to compare electron/ light quanta with another
particles (protons…etc) and bodies (billiard balls, satellites,
astronauts, “twins”)  because they cannot  produce electromagnetic
fields. The electron and  the another particles are also incommensurable
quantities. They are  absolutely different objects.
c)
Every epoch has its own delusion. Maxwell and Boltzmann
tried to explain electromagnetic fields using balls, wheels,
cog-wheels, springs…etc. H. Hertz, who demonstrated the
existence of the electromagnetic waves,  wrote that the
electromagnetic waves didn’t have practice use. Etc….
Now we try to compare electron/photon
ability with astronaut’s  and “twins’ ” opportunities. It is mistaken,
but what  to do? We do it because this is our way of cognition
:” From vague wish to the  bright thought”.
2.
So, how SRT explains time from electron/ light quanta point of view.
a)
When light quanta is in state of a rest its  time is frozen,
and its own clock shows zero.
b)
When photon moves with constant speed c=1
its time is also frozen, and its own clock still shows zero.
c)
Only when photon moves with speed c>1 its zero time
changes and limited time appears. In this situation we
know  photon as an electron. Photon works as an electron
and  SRT and Lorentz transformations explain this process.
d)
And when , for example, electron emits from an atom and
interacts with Vacuum  all its parameters change. Its limited
time ends and its own  clock shows zero again.  Now it lives
in infinite/ eternal  Vacuum until new incarnation, until its new
work, maybe, in an atom (molecule), or in a cell, maybe, in a blade
of grass or in a tree, maybe, in an animal or in a person.
In another words:” We are living beings until Light quanta/
Electron is present and works in our body.”
Is it true? Yes, it is true. Why?
Because W. Pauli in 1924 wrote:" Each quantum state in the atom
is not limited of two electrons,  but only one electron".
It means in the atom can be only one, single electron.
The electron manages the atom. If the atom contains more
than one electron (for example – two), this atom represents
“ Siamese twins”. Save us God of having such atoms and cells.
And the living being begins its life from one, singe cell.
What I am introducing here is what ' thinking photon/ electron' exist .
I applied the quantum of light/ photon/ electron with a consciousness.
And His own consciousness is not static but can develop.
The development of conscious scale goes
" from vague wishes up  to a clear thought ".
This evolution proceeds during hundred millions (billion) years.
e)
Trying to understand “ the electrodynamics of moving bodies”
Einstein wrote that it is the result of time and space changes.
It is not exactly correct , because these changes are secondary
in  SRT. And the first point of SRT is that Quantum of light changes
its spin. The former Planck/ Einstein’s spin (h) changes in  Goudsmit /
Uhlenbeck's spin (h = h / 2pi), and as a result of this act all its parameters
change and the time and new space appear.
3.
GRT explains the conditions of gravitation and the secret of
planetary time. Why do I think so?
a)
When Einstein worked on GRT, he asked astronomers:
“ What is the average mass of matter in the Universe?”
The result was lamentable. The quantity of mass was
insignificantly small. It was impossible to keep gravitation
law  with such insignificantly  little mass and so, the Universe
must be “open”, endless. But what to do with the infinite
space, Einstein didn’t know. Therefore he took (from the
heaven)  “ the cosmological constant” in order to “close”
the Universe. The taken mass was enough for creating the
condition of gravitation. Without “ the cosmological constant”
the  Universe is endless.
b)
In 1922 Friedman wrote, that we could not take  “ the
cosmological constant” in calculation. Instead of it, it is
enough to take “time”  and the Universe will be “closed”.
Friedman was correct, but why? Because “time”, by its
nature, is a limited  physical quantity and, be taken in
mathematical calculation, automatically gives “closed” result.
c)
So, the detected material mass of the
matter in the Universe is so small  (the average density
of all substance in the Universe is approximately
p=10^-30 g/sm^3) that the gravitation law doesn't work.
therefore (to save the gravitation law) invented new matter
a "dark matter", a new energy a “dark energy” and another
abstract objects. This “ invention” is only a result of our
mentality , which says: ” If in a theory you meet infinity it
means the theory is  nonsense”. It is very hard  to take that
the  Universe is infinite. It is no easy matter to give up
d)
On my opinion it is impossible to use GRT to Universe as
a whole. The Newton/ Einstein's gravitation laws are correct
only in the local parts of Vacuum. The Universe / Vacuum
as a whole is endless.
e)
So, how does GRT explain time?
According to GRT the time depends on the mass
and speed it means, of moving matter.
It means that different masses and speeds can create
different time. For example, our planet Earth has its
own time but for us it is absolute.
The other planets have another mass and speed and
therefore they have their own time. This time according
to GRT is relative. But  their habitants will think that their
time is absolute. But if they know GRT they will
not make this mistake.
=============
According to SRT and GRT time is relative.
SRT says about proper/ individual time of an
electron/ light quanta.
GRT says about planetary time of a Planet..
The time cannot exist without matter and speed,
in another words, without moving matter. But
different reasons and different moving of a matter
create the proper and planetary time.
=================..
Is it possible to see the different manifestation of
time in a human being?
Here is an article “ Even the time is pressed from fear”
by  Dr. Vadim Chernobrov (collaborator of MAI -
- Moscow Aviation Institute).
He wrote, that we usually think time is a constant quality.
But Einstein’s relative theory says time is relative.
Question. Is it possible to check it in our life?
Answer. Russian and foreign researches say it is
possible. The documents (secret in the past) testify
that “cataclysm of time”, “ phenomenon of time’s
perversion “,” the changes (its deceleration) of time”
often is observed by people whose profession connected
with risk: astronauts, pilots, drivers, soldiers.
1.
The test pilot Mark Gallay wrote in his book
“The test in the sky” when his airplane was caught
with fire “ the time began to go in another scale. The time
almost stopped. Every second took ability of expansion,
and in this  situation it was  possible to do many things.”
He confirms that tested such feeling many times.
2.
The test pilot Marina L. Popovich said the same,
in the dangerous, catastrophic situations “ the time
is stretches”.
3.
In June 1989 the soviet airplane MIG-29 crashed near
Paris, in Le Bourget airport , in the time of its air show.
The notes of “the black box” showed that during the
four (4)seconds the test pilot Anatoly Kvochur made as
many operations as in normal situation it would take some
minutes. The test pilot later said: ” the time was stretched”.
4.
The captain N.Z.(fought in Afghanistan) remembers:
“the fly of the bullet was so beautiful that I didn’t guess
to evade from it, although I have enough time to do it”.
5.
The sergeant V. Ch (fought in Afghanistan) told:
“ The black barrel of gun seems very big, even enormous.
Time is stopped and full silence came. And I moved slowly
a step a side and the bullet passed close to me.”
6.
Etc…
His conclusions.
The people in a critical situation, on the border of death,
suddenly for themselves begin to see everything as in the
slow down film and in this time their speed reaction and
power increase in tens and hundreds times. And this explains:
a) why a man who escaped from wolves, can quickly reach
up the  top of the naked tree,
b) an old woman took out a big trunk from her burned  house,
which later two strong firemen couldn’t rise.
c) etc…
=============..
My experience.
The speed on the curve was so fast that to keep the balance of
the car I went on other  road line and flew straight at the
“forehead’ of a green mercedes. The driver of the mercedes
was in panic, in horror. He threw the wheel and  closed his face
with his hands. Suddenly the time stopped and the sound disappeared
for me and I made  many actions before my car kicked only the side
back door  of the mercedes. It was long time ago, but writing this article
I understood better what happened.
Our computer-brain works on a dualistic basis (on two different neurons
systems): 1) usually under logic program,
2) sometimes on intuition (subconscious).
Brain of a man approximately consists of sixteen milliards neurons.
All of them form the system that manages human body.
That is why that with the work of all the sixteen milliards neurons
of brain, a man cannot catch a single impulse of his Electron, of his
Quantum of light, of his Soul:
(mass of electron is equal 10^-31 kg., charge of electron is equal 10^-19 k.)
But in that time ( critical time ) most neurons of my brain stopped
their electric pulse (time almost stopped) and my Light Quanta/Electron
in this new condition (superconductivity) had possibility to increase
my speed reaction  and power on a short period of time . So, as SRT says,
the Light Quanta in different systems ( even in our brain) can show us
a different Time. The Light Quanta plays major role in the Nature,
in the Physics,  in our Life.
===================..
Spirituality Spot Found in Brain.
http://www.livescience.com/health/081224-brain-spirit.html
========= . .
Neuroscience has found the EGO assuming group of neurons
in the Brain in the right parietal lobe!
It keeps track of self-centred notions as “my hand”,
“my cocktail”, “my witty intelligence” etc.
The greatest silencing of this ‘Me-Definer’ region
likely happens in deep states of meditation!
Meditation stills & stops the EGO! How wonderful indeed! ;-)
LiveScience Details here:
http://www.livescience.com/health/081224-brain-spirit.html
===============. .
Best wishes.
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2548
http://www.socratus.com
========== . .
================ . .

#### socratus

• Sr. Member
• Posts: 329
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #1 on: 24/04/2009 20:44:23 »
Sorry.

This topic ‘ Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./ ‘
has been moved from
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?board=12.0
to New Theories
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=22562.0 by BenV.

It seems that Mr. BenV   take care about his members
like USSR government worried about his citizens.

#### Vern

• Neilep Level Member
• Posts: 2072
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #2 on: 24/04/2009 21:49:04 »
Sorry.

This topic ‘ Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./ ‘
has been moved from
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?board=12.0
to New Theories
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=22562.0 by BenV.

It seems that Mr. BenV   take care about his members
like USSR government worried about his citizens.

I read your post a couple of times and BenV did us all a favour. Your concepts are no where near anything that mainstream physics would contemplate. I don't see anything in your posting that I can use to predict anything. I am sure some of your meaning is lost in translation.

I think it is better when introducing new ideas, to do it one piece at a time. You would probably get more responses that way.

#### socratus

• Sr. Member
• Posts: 329
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #3 on: 25/04/2009 07:03:29 »
I think that people on the link
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?board=12.0
as clever as people on the link ‘New Theories’.
They also can understand and discern where is the truth
and where is the lie.
And it is impossible to Mr. BenV to be judge who is clever.
========= . .
#
You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some of the time, but you
cannot fool all of the people all of the time.
/ Abraham Lincoln./

The USSR’s fate is good example of Lincoln’s words.
============== . .

#### socratus

• Sr. Member
• Posts: 329
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #4 on: 25/04/2009 07:33:34 »
The Seven Commandments.
=========
1.
. .  . etc.

7. All animals are equal.
/ George Orwell./
============== . .
We are all equal, but  . .Mr. BenV  is an expert of equality.
Only Mr. BenV can decide who is more or less equal.
======================

#### Chemistry4me

• Neilep Level Member
• Posts: 7709
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #5 on: 25/04/2009 08:34:55 »
What next? Four legs good, two legs better?

#### socratus

• Sr. Member
• Posts: 329
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #6 on: 25/04/2009 12:34:40 »
What next? Four legs good, two legs better?
====================================================
What next ?
============ . .
The basis of the physics consists of:
1.
Abstract separated absolute space and time of Newton.
2.
Abstract ‘ideal gas’ and ‘ideal particles.’
3.
Abstract ‘black body.’
4.
Abstract SRT negative  4 -  dimensional space,
…….and 11 - dimensional spaces (string theory).
5.
Abstract ‘virtual particles’, ‘dark matter’, ‘dark energy’.
6.
Abstract ‘ inertial movement’.
7.
Abstract ‘big bang’.
8.
Abstract " method of renormalization".

=============== . .
What will be the next abstract model, abstract idea ?

#### Chemistry4me

• Neilep Level Member
• Posts: 7709
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #7 on: 25/04/2009 12:43:11 »
What are you actually proposing?

#### socratus

• Sr. Member
• Posts: 329
##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #8 on: 26/04/2009 05:28:33 »
What are you actually proposing?
================================================
All debates are nonsense without an Absolute Frame.

======================================================

#### The Naked Scientists Forum

##### Time and Quantum of Light. / My opinion./
« Reply #8 on: 26/04/2009 05:28:33 »