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Pavlov??? can i make you like something?
« on: 08/07/2005 13:44:11 »
What I want to know is, is there any way to train (probabally not the best word) to condition someone to enjoy something that they really do not enjoy (and that they don't particularly want to enjoy) for example to give felatio?

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Re: Pavlov??? can i make you like something?
« Reply #1 on: 08/07/2005 14:04:37 »
You mean brainwash, or hypnotise don't you ?....I'll be honest, I feel as if I have a lot to say about this, will need to compose myself and hopefully get back here with a semblance of an opinion. good luck though !

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« Reply #2 on: 08/07/2005 14:27:28 »
No, not as in brainwashing, but well i know if you want to you can train the body to do some pretty far out things for example i am right handed but i have trained myself to play pool with my left hand, it felt unatural at first but after doing it my body got used to it and now i play just as well with either hand. what i want to know is, is it possible to Make someone enjoy something. and if so can you do it against their will?

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« Reply #3 on: 08/07/2005 18:28:22 »
I think even when a person is hypnotized they will not do something against their will....I know you don't mean to hypnotize but surely there's something not quite right to coerce someone to do something that ordinarily they would not voluntarily do. What you need to do is get them to WANT to do that...but I assume they must want to want to learn.

It's all very well teaching yourself to be ambidextrous but what you're talking about is some form of mind manipulation on an emotional level.....

I think time is the key here, time and patience. I'm sure there are physical and emotional cues that one could use to perhaps put ideas into a persons mind but I suspect this takes time. For instance, my son has a problem with tiptoeing all the time.....so, I have printed out sheets that say HEEL TOE (so that he walks with his heel down first)...and left them all over the house, now, we hardly notice them but over a period of a couple of months I think subliminally he has adjusted his gait accordingly. Now, I'm not saying you should put signs saying' Give me blow job' all over the place but I suspect something with that kind of subliminal hint might work.

It all does sound a little devious though don't you think ?...specifically if your suggested example is in fact the real goal !!....I have found, to my experience, that patience is a virtue and pays dividends in the end. Any hint of pressure and you can forget the whole thing. It's amazing what someone might do that they would not normally do, if the circumstances prevail that they are in the right frame of mind.



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« Reply #4 on: 08/07/2005 18:33:15 »
....also, pethaps the person has had a bad experience once before. If they can be asurred that one bad experince does not make it so that all further experiences will also be bad then you're half way there really. Don't therapists use a simliar technique with people who have phobias of spiders and outside environments etc....it's a matter of a little and often perhaps, conditioning like you said...but no pressure!

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Re: Pavlov??? can i make you like something?
« Reply #5 on: 18/07/2005 11:45:03 »
Oh dear, with a sig like that? My guess is that you, in particular, have no hope.  You are intent on winning the game and you can see an easy double on your last colour,leaving a clear view of the black.  It should be game over but it's your partner's shot.  They set the colour over a pocket instead of taking the double, and they've done it before.  You just can't understandwhy they won't take the double; why they don't have the confidence to try.  I know why. You ask them to practise the shot because you want to win the game, not because you want to see their pleasure in it. I am not suggesting that you are a nasty person, or an evil one; just that you are possibly a little arrogant? "I can do this, and enjoy it, so why can't they?"
 
Attitude is everything.

I too play with my left hand, but I understand that others cannot or simply may not wish to.  I may not win every game, but I walk away with a smile, because I know my friends enjoyed it.
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Re: Pavlov??? can i make you like something?
« Reply #6 on: 03/08/2005 02:15:35 »
I have trained in hypnosis myself. Then I got some proper training from Jonathan Royle and learned the truth behind hypnosis. It doesn't exist. Hypnosis uses various psychological concepts such as expectation and belief. The subject expects a certain event to happen and they believe that they will. Hypnotists (stage and therapy) wear a uniform to further enhance the belief.

If we were all in a room together and I had paid someone to come in dressed as a Policeman and pretend to arrest me, and that actor then told you all to stand up. I can be pretty sure most if not all of you would do as you were told.

Conditioning isn't difficult. You need to associate the event with a good feeling. So praise your lady friend and make her feel good about giving you oral. If you can persuade her to lick it, or similar then praise her for what she has done and tell her how good she was at it. Let her know that it wasn't so bad for her. Ask questions but word them as statements and force her to choose the answer you want her to choose (known in the trade as a magician's choice.) For example don't ask "Did that taste bad?" instead ask "That didn't taste as bad as you expected!" she will perceive that as a question and reply in the negative but really you are telling her that it didn't taste bad.

Do something nice for her when she does give you oral, that way she will associate the oral sex with the nice thing.

And above all if you promise not to cum in her mouth then DON'T DO IT!

Some women hate the taste of pre-cum. Soem men just have a dirty willy. If you want her to perform oral then clean it, run it under the tap and clean under your foreskin. Basic personal hygeine is so often neglected. Would you go down on a dirty smelly wotsit on a lady? No you would want it to be clean and nice. Same goes for us men.

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