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« on: 27/05/2009 11:13:54 »
Lao Tzu and Physics.
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Dao generates the One,
The One generates the Two,
The Two generates the Three.
The Three generates all things.
All things have darkness at their back
and strive towards the light,
and the flowing power gives them harmony.
/ Tao Te Ching, Chapter 42, Lao Tzu /
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Comment.
1.
In the beginning was Vacuum/ Dao.
The Vacuum/ Dao is not died space but according to
Quantum theory it is Energetic space : T=0K.
2.
Dao generates the One.
It means:
The Energetic (Infinite/Eternal) Vacuum space generates
energetic virtual particles- frozen light quanta..
They are in rest/ potential condition and written by formulas:
C/D = pi, E = Mc^2, R/N = k, h = 0, i^2 = -1.
They can change its rest/potential condition and become active.
We call this active Energetic particle Electron: e^2= ahc
3.
The One generates the Two.
It means:
The Ones (frozen light quanta and Electron) create Proton.
4.
The Two generates the Three.
It means:
As result of interaction between Electron and Proton
the atom was created.
5.
The Three generates all things.
It means:
The atoms create all things.
6.
All things have darkness at their back
and strive towards the light,
and the flowing power gives them harmony.
It means:
The Quantum of Light is hidden in everything.
But as the ‘Bhagavad Gita’ says:
Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form.
They do not know My transcendental nature and
My supreme dominion over all that be.
/ Chapter 9. Text 11./
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.

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« Reply #1 on: 27/05/2009 20:44:34 »
This is so much clearer.  Golly Socratus.  I've got something to sink my teeth into.  But I'm exhausted.  Will have to defer the pleasure until tomorrow.  Bit stuck on some of those equations.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 28/05/2009 05:56:51 »
This is so much clearer.  Golly Socratus. 
 I've got something to sink my teeth into. 
 But I'm exhausted. 
 Will have to defer the pleasure until tomorrow. 
Bit stuck on some of those equations.
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...the more a subject is understood,
 the more briefly it may be explained.
/ Thomas Jefferson,
 letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816 /

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« Reply #3 on: 28/05/2009 13:43:30 »
Quote from: socratus
...the more a subject is understood,
 the more briefly it may be explained.
/ Thomas Jefferson,
And it is still a great truth. :)
 

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« Reply #4 on: 28/05/2009 20:09:16 »
Hi Socratus.  I loved your explanation of the Lao Tzu and Physics.  It's amazing because it precisely fits my own field model - for what it's worth.  I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this on another thread, but perhaps you'd like to read it.

http://rosemaryainslie.blogspot.com/

Apologies if this is not strictly allowed.  But it's really relevant especially the growth from 1 to 2 to 3.  I also need 9.  Otherwise it's perfect.  And I'm sorry it's such turgid writing. I do not have any training in math. 

May I ask you to explain those equations.  The only one I know is E=M^2.

I loved that 'all things have darkness at their back and strive towards the light'.  Have you ever read Gary Zukov - Dancing Wu Li Masters.  It's extraordinary how mystics have such a comprehensive a grasp on physical concepts. Have you ever read Tagore?  Or Sri Auribindo (not sure that I've spelled that correctly) He's more of a poet, but with extraordinary reach in imagery.  I am an avid scholar of all types of literature but have never read Lao Tzu.  I will try and get hold of something from the library, on Saturday.
 
 

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« Reply #5 on: 29/05/2009 00:20:50 »
 
 I am an avid scholar of all types of literature but have never read Lao Tzu.  I will try and get hold of something from the library, on Saturday.
 
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Another books:
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The Tao of Physics (1975),
/ Fritjof Capra, Ph.D./
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritjof_Capra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tao_of_Physics
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Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid
/ Douglas Richard Hofstadter/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Hofstadter
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Different publications by
/ David Joseph Bohm /
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm#Publications
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« Reply #6 on: 29/05/2009 15:03:11 »
I've read Fritzof Capra - Tao of Physics.  Tend to agree with Jeremy Bernstein's criticism only because I really did'nt see the parallels.  Never heard of Hofstadter.  Will try and get that book. An Eternal Golden Braid?  I'll look it up again.   I had no idea that Capra got his insights through LSD.  Amazing. Nor did I realise that he knew Heisenberg.  I'm fascinated by Heisenberg.  And Bohr.  I'm eternally grateful to Zukov's Dancing Wu Li Masters.  It was my introduction to physics.  Without it I would have lost out on the most fascinating hobby of my life.  Not such a remarkable literary achievement but certainly a way of making physics understandable to a layman.  I never did any science at school - so had no idea of the field.

And how interesting that Heisenberg knew Tagore.  Is his name Rabindranath? Tagore.  I'm pulling this from memory.  I'm sure that it's referencing him.  What an amazing reach into metaphysics.  Have your heard of Sri Auribindo.  He's earlier I think - classical?  Again, I'm reaching into my memory. 

So Socratus.  We're getting somewhere.  Now.  Can you please explain those equations.  I'm sure they're simple and I should know them.  But - again, I can only understand things when you say, for example, Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared.  That sort of thing.  I not only didn't do science but nor did I do math.  I'f you've got the time?
 
 

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