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« on: 13/06/2009 14:31:29 »
.  SECTION 7-4: ATTRACTION OF POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE PARTICLES

    Modern day physicists have problems with the mechanism for the attraction of positive particles with negative particles. They see the repulsion of positive particles with positive particles as being caused by photons sent from each particle to the other. This causes a net repulsive force. It has not been easy for them to see how plus and minus particles attracts.

     In order to see what happens let us draw a simplified picture of two positive particles.

xxxAxxxxxxxxxBxxxxxxxxxxCxxxxxxxxxxDxxxxxxxxxxxExxxxxxxxxxFxxxxxxxxxxxxG      
-+-++------------[]++++++[]-------X--------[]++++++[]-------------++-+-            

-+-++------------[]++++++[]-------X--------[]++++++[]-------------++-+-

      Figure 7-4

  In Figure 7-4 we have a positive particle at C and another at E. There are negative dots in the space between them at D. The concentration of the space dots is very high near the positive particles. The point X is halfway between particles C and E. Since most of the dots at X are negative dots; there is a strong dot pressure build up at that point. This is due to the fact that negative dots are continually changing into negative magnetic dots. In addition at X they cannot change into bipolar photons and escape the electrical universe. Thus they can only stay as electric dots and magnetic dots.

   When we look at G we see that we start to get interactions between the negative dots from F with the positive dots within G. G is mostly balanced between positive dots and negative dots. However there is a surplus of positive dots due all the negative dots surrounding C and E. The same thing happens at A.

   At A and G we get bipolar photonic conversions and radiation into the mechanical universe. The two positive particles are pushed apart due to the increased pressure of electrical space at D and the decreased pressure of electrical space at A and G.

   Let us now look at why two opposite charged particles attract each other.

xxxxAxxxxxxxxBxxxxxxxxxxxxCxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxDxxxxxxxxxExxxxxxxxxxFxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxG
-+-+-++--------------[]++++++++[]---------0+++++++[]----------[]++++++++++--+-+-+
-+-+-++--------------[]++++++++[]---------0+++++++[]----------[]++++++++++--+-+-+

            Figure 7-5

   In Figure 7-5, we have a positive charge to the left at C and a negative charge to the right at D. The electrical field at 0 is zero. At 0 there will be a junction of plus magnetic dot-waves and minus magnetic dot-waves. These will produce photons, which will flow into the mechanical universe and radiate away. This will produce a loss of electrical electro-photonic pressure at 0. At the same time the plus dots and dot waves within F will produce higher dot-wave electrical pressure upon the negative particle at E. The negative dots and dot-waves at B will have a higher dot wave electrical pressure which will push against C. We will get dot-wave photonic production at A and G which will provide some relief for the pressure at B and F respectfully. However this will not reduce the pressure at B and F significantly. In addition the plus dot-waves of F will continually bombard the negative charge at E. The same thing is true of the minus dot-waves in B bombarding the positive charge at C.

   There is a lot of action happening; photons are created from electro-photons. The photons in the mechanical universe disintegrate into electro-photons in the electrical universe.  Thus there are billions of billions of interactions happening every split second. Positive and negative particles do not attract each other. They produce electric and magnetic fields, which produce photons and bipolar dots. All these things interact to push the opposite particles together.

  In Polytechnic a long time ago, they had practical magnetic field courses in which the students studied the various magnetic fields. The magnetic fields are the direct evidence of dot-wave current flow. If you study the fields you will see how the electro-dot-waves work. Of course the fields are composed of huge amounts of the dots.
                     
          



 

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« Reply #1 on: 13/06/2009 14:42:37 »
You get down into the composition of the fields, which to me is known only to the extent that we know how a magnetic field action creates an electric field action etc.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 13/06/2009 14:47:10 »
You get down into the composition of the fields, which to me is known only to the extent that we know how a magnetic field action creates an electric field action etc.

Yes. Here I have a theory on why positive and negative particles attract each other. It is interesting that there is a lot of action and reaction taking place continuously. This is because we live in a sea of dot-waves.
 

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« Reply #3 on: 13/06/2009 14:51:38 »
Is it possible that a dot wave might be a point in space where electric and magnetic amplitude are the maximum that space can support and that dot is surrounded by a wave of electric and magnetic amplitude that diminishes as the inverse square of distance away from the dot? :)
 

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« Reply #4 on: 13/06/2009 15:08:59 »
Is it possible that a dot wave might be a point in space where electric and magnetic amplitude are the maximum that space can support and that dot is surrounded by a wave of electric and magnetic amplitude that diminishes as the inverse square of distance away from the dot? :)

Yes. That certainly would be an alternate way of looking at it. Sometimes I look at it as a focal point of the field. Thus it really does not exist in the here and now but from the radius of the universe toward the non-existant point.
   In effect another way of looking at the dot-wave is that it does not really exist in the here and now. Then the universe is really a strange hologram. If you look deep inside of us you find nothing at all.
   We think we are something because of our interactions with all the other "nothings at all". You push against a wall. It looks hard to you. You think it is something only because you are made of the same nothingness. (This gets very philosophical)
   This enables an independent observer from a higher light speed universe to flow right through us because we are nothing at all.
   W: Hope I don't blow your mind with this!
 

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« Reply #5 on: 13/06/2009 15:22:06 »
This is close to how I see a quantum of energy, except two dots are needed to complete the wave cycle.
 

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« Reply #6 on: 13/06/2009 15:26:58 »
This is close to how I see a quantum of energy, except two dots are needed to complete the wave cycle.

Yes. My single dot does not have the property of mass. It takes a plus dot and a minus dot to produce a mass dot. A single dot has energy
 E = QC but no mass.
 

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« Reply #7 on: 13/06/2009 15:46:47 »
My wife wants to go to the Farmers market so I will be gone a few hours.
 

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« Reply #8 on: 13/06/2009 19:46:45 »
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Yes. My single dot does not have the property of mass. It takes a plus dot and a minus dot to produce a mass dot. A single dot has energy

That looks kinda like a photon. T2 and T5 are connected to the dots; the hash marks front to back are the waves.
 

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« Reply #9 on: 13/06/2009 21:47:12 »
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Yes. My single dot does not have the property of mass. It takes a plus dot and a minus dot to produce a mass dot. A single dot has energy

That looks kinda like a photon. T2 and T5 are connected to the dots; the hash marks front to back are the waves.


I like your pictures. It shows an interaction between a plus dot and a minus dot. The single dot is like salt or pepper on a meal. It does not do too much. However it is the electric and magnetic field. Yet it must be part of the photon to really display its properties. Thus electro-dots are most often photons which have salt and pepper embedded within it.
 

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« Reply #10 on: 14/06/2009 16:25:54 »
Have you thought about the composition of the dot of your dot-wave. Is it possible that it might be a saturated point where electric and magnetic amplitude is the maximum that it can ever be in space?
 

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« Reply #11 on: 14/06/2009 17:37:50 »
Have you thought about the composition of the dot of your dot-wave. Is it possible that it might be a saturated point where electric and magnetic amplitude is the maximum that it can ever be in space?

The dot-size that I accept is the plank radius 1.616E-35 meters. At this radius all the dimensions exist.
   The dot-voltage is
  KQd/R
For the high density dot, Q is 5.39E-37 coulombs
For the low density dot, Q = 8.1E-61 coulombs

  As you see from the equations, the dot-voltage at the Plank radius is the highest level.Around 300 million volts at the Plank radius for the high density dot wave. Much lower for the low density dow wave.

   As the dot moves it produces a corresponding high magnetic field at the plank radius. Much lower further out.

  Does the dot always move? Can it be perfectly stationary. If it always moves it always will have an electric and magnetic field. Perhaps it oscillates within the Plank radius.

  Thanks for the question because I have not really thought about the electric and magnetic fields at the plank radius. I was just happy that the moving dot produces a magnetic field. Now your comments bring up the possibility that a spherical magnetic field could always exist as the dot spins around the plank radius. If this is true than moving dot changes a spherical field into a linear field. Thus it could be argued that the magnetic field of the dot-wave always exists. It merely changes from spherical to linear.
 

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« Reply #12 on: 14/06/2009 19:02:37 »
The fields must saturate. Otherwise Planck's constant wouldn't be a constant. Since electric and magnetic amplitude are not considered in the Planck equation, they must be constant.
 

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« Reply #13 on: 14/06/2009 20:02:34 »
The fields must saturate. Otherwise Planck's constant wouldn't be a constant. Since electric and magnetic amplitude are not considered in the Planck equation, they must be constant.

In the past I thought I had an equation for the amplitude of the photon but it did not work out. All we know are wavelength or energy. It may be possible that from an Einsteinian viewpoint the amplitude shrinks to zero. In the limiting case it would be the plank radius. What do you think?
 

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« Reply #14 on: 14/06/2009 20:18:30 »
I suspect that Planck's constant comes from the saturation amplitude of a quantum of energy. Dr. Robert Kemp worked out some equations for that but in looking through it just now, I don't see a value for the amplitude. I can't figure how the Planck length would be associated with Planck's constant. It seems to me to be just one of those Quantumania inventions :)
Quote from: Kemp link
This is because Maxwell’s equations clearly state that the rate of change of electromagnetic fields determines the energy, and Planck’s constant clearly states that frequency alone determines the energy.
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« Reply #15 on: 14/06/2009 20:34:21 »

I suspect that Planck's constant comes from the saturation amplitude of a quantum of energy. Dr. Robert Kemp worked out some equations for that but in looking through it just now, I don't see a value for the amplitude. I can't figure how the Planck length would be associated with Planck's constant. It seems to me to be just one of those Quantumania inventions :)
Quote from: Kemp link
This is because Maxwell’s equations clearly state that the rate of change of electromagnetic fields determines the energy, and Planck’s constant clearly states that frequency alone determines the energy.

 It is only the last few months that I discovered Planks equations on Wikipedia. "Plank Units". He uses G and h to describe the universe. Instead of my dot size I switched to his. In addition some of my equations matched his. For example my proton equations produced his gravitational equation. I was amazed by his work.
 

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