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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1850 on: 04/04/2016 12:54:19 »
it won't make you happier. it will just make you honest.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1851 on: 04/04/2016 13:01:43 »
You can live as a sheep, directed by others, no matter what you tell me :)
Or you can do it on your own, accepting life, and ones mistakes.

It won't get you a nicer coffin, but it will be something.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1852 on: 04/04/2016 13:13:11 »
And if we do it?

Maybe it will change, it won't change if you continue the path of acceptance and conformity though. Furthermore, it does not need you to kill civilians, it just need you to be true to yourself, instead of greed.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1853 on: 04/04/2016 14:10:35 »
The other way is the book of five rings, Machiavelli's ideas of how to survive, and for each one of us, our own nuclear device, just in case. It's the trodden path, and it took us to here. You like the view?
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1854 on: 04/04/2016 14:11:27 »
:)

I don't.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1855 on: 09/04/2016 12:41:27 »
I know, I should really be sober, shouldn't I? And show you my degrees?

Well, F* you :)

And if you like, F* me too..

Because that's what we're best on, isn't it?
F**ing.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1856 on: 09/04/2016 12:42:53 »
brawling, and F***ng.

That's what us make us those 'masters' of this poor mishandled earth.
You think NASA would accept us handling a space mission?
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1857 on: 09/04/2016 12:43:52 »
You can't wake up, can you?
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1858 on: 09/04/2016 12:47:16 »
Itf there was a God, I could use it, to force you to wake up. That was a working tool in medieval times. But you don't really need a God. Not if we are the ones experiencing the mystery and wonder of living. Experiencing the universe. You will take yourself with you. Not your son, not your sister, yourself.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1859 on: 09/04/2016 12:48:34 »
If you can't see what is right here, what makes you think you can handle death?
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1860 on: 09/04/2016 12:49:03 »
Your own, not some victims, coward.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1861 on: 09/04/2016 12:50:53 »
That's about it I guess :)
You can't stand dying, but you can live, as a sheep.

I'm not impressed.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1862 on: 09/04/2016 13:21:25 »
Wish I could be nicer, usually I am, but my time is running out, as is yours. Doesn't matter how tough you define yourself as. Your time is also running out, as is everything you ever cared about. Don't lie, taste the air and see.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1863 on: 09/04/2016 15:16:01 »
Don't know, but one of the worst things about me writing this is that I think you feel it as a attack.

It was never a attack, and you won't get less when questioning this.
It's just me, wondering what it takes to die.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1864 on: 09/04/2016 15:44:24 »
It's the way of the warrior.

And it's yours.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1865 on: 09/04/2016 15:52:22 »
;)

I don't really care. I told you how it works, and how you can win. You need your own mind for it though, not someone else promises. I don't know if you can handle it?
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1866 on: 09/04/2016 15:52:50 »
Can you?
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1867 on: 09/04/2016 16:22:11 »
Don't know if I mentioned it?

There is a difference between a warrior and a soldier. A warrior goes by feelings. He will offer you clemency, when soldiers won't. I think Alfred Lord Tennyson presented it best.

'Ours is not to reason why. Ours is but to do and die'

It do has a certain fatalistic nobility to it, as if you were part of a machine, but you're not. You happen to be a human being,
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1868 on: 09/04/2016 16:25:53 »
Show me.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1869 on: 11/04/2016 07:58:31 »
Ever wondered about power structures? The way, no matter what ideals that are presented, the wrong people always seem to get to the top, manipulating us?

Well, they're no more 'evil' than you might have been, getting the possibility. They are just obeying our first law of existence, the one of greed. And it is us that allow them to exist there.  A democratic society then need a lot of 'laws' and 'rules' regulating it so that the discrepancy between those that have and those that don't doesn't become to blatant.

But you're the one supporting it, and believe it or not. As long as your real ideals are the ones they have, 'greed and profit' you have no right criticizing them. You're just not as accomplished as they might be in living the first rule of existence.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1870 on: 11/04/2016 08:00:54 »
Ideals also need you understanding, and living, them. And yes, isn't it time you asked yourself what those ideals are?
 

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« Reply #1871 on: 11/04/2016 08:07:07 »
The 'rule' I refer to is actually a ideal too. The one of where the 'market' knows best, the one where the Earth riches are infinite, the one where we never can do anything wrong, and the one where all streets sooner or later will be pawed with gold, and you a millionaire. And we use what I and others call 'vulgar Darwinism' to defend it. The right of power to take what it wants.

So, it's not them, it's you that need to change.
 

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« Reply #1872 on: 11/04/2016 08:12:15 »
It actually is the way of the warrior, it's the way of a individual, not the ideals for a machine. But then again, did you really consider yourself a machine? If you do :) What can I say? Hope you grow up before you die.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1873 on: 11/04/2016 08:33:55 »
So, what does those unspoken ideals we live by need. Well, what about the idea of us becoming a well oiled 'machine' of 'force', forcing our dreams upon others. One where you consider yourself a part, without individual responsibility, of that same 'machine'. As some might say, gain the world but lose your soul.
 

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #1874 on: 11/04/2016 08:39:59 »
And if you look around, you can see our present ideals driving us into despair. Don't need global warming for it, although that is the force that will stop us living those outmoded ideals, alternatively, just stop us living.
 

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