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Physicians for money?!
« on: 28/09/2005 01:03:45 »
What were your motives for becoming a doctor?..Did you know anything about medicine before you decided? When did you decide? Recently I read a study stating that Medical students because of the competitiveness of medical school forget their orginal motives and that those medical students whose orginal motive was to earn more money [V] (which I'll tell you right now GP's DON'T) actually completed medical school more frequently opposed to people with other motives such as wanting to help people (perhaps niavely)?
Personally, I wanted to become a doctor because I love science and I have passion and intrest in medicine.

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« Reply #1 on: 28/09/2005 01:17:08 »
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Personally, I wanted to become a doctor because I love science and I have passion and intrest in medicine.




Dr Nina, when you say ' wanted ' does that mean you no longer wish to become a Dr ?..or have i just misunderstood ?

Don't suppose you knowing about sleep apnea do you ?http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2687

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« Reply #2 on: 28/09/2005 01:29:15 »
No I was simply stating that that was my reason for starting I still feel this way...I'm sorry I wasn't clear ;- )
P.S what does sleep apnea have to do with the topic?

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« Reply #3 on: 28/09/2005 23:01:07 »
Hi Dr Nina *sigh*...sleep apnea has nothing to do with this topic Mam...I was just wondering if you knew anything about it and if so, if you had any advice for the people in that thread(via that link)...that's all! (big hugs )

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« Reply #4 on: 29/09/2005 03:16:17 »
Oh, sure I'll go post something...

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« Reply #5 on: 29/09/2005 21:41:36 »
Thanks Dr Nina.

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« Reply #6 on: 30/09/2005 00:33:24 »
Anytime! ;-)

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« Reply #7 on: 03/10/2005 02:55:49 »
Come on everybody !!..you guys and girlies are all well qualified. Dr Nina has asked great question above, perhaps we can expand it to incorporate any of the sciences eh ?..why did YOU choose to become what you've become...career wise of course.

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« Reply #8 on: 04/10/2005 21:51:32 »
Come on people don't be shy!!!!!!!! Is my topic THAT uninteresting? If you're not a doctor: as a person who has to have yearly (or more) visits to the doctor's office, how do you feel about your doctors being motivated primarily be money (majority wise)?

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« Reply #9 on: 04/10/2005 22:47:51 »
*sigh* I just don't get it Dr Nina !...where are all the responses ?..still...between the two of us we're making a few but lets hope the Scaredeycats ............

.........(Scaredeycats Scaredey cats , you're all a bunch of Scaredeycats...nyahh nyahh nyahh nyahh.!!..blows a raspberry !!...rrrsssssssssppp !!!).....

.....errhmm, as I was saying, lets hope the lovely peeps out there will respond !  (do you think my blatant attempt at embarassing them by calling them names will work ?):D;)

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« Reply #10 on: 04/10/2005 22:56:45 »
I'm not sure your name calling will work but it made ME laugh! lol ;-)

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« Reply #11 on: 04/10/2005 23:04:47 »
Wanted to be a doctor to save lives and because I wanted to diagnose and treat people's diseases. Started working as a medic in the private ambulance sector and started my own private service. Currently doing training to get State Registered as a Paramedic.

Recently changed my full time career to law as I decided that this is what I really want to do. Everything I wanted from being a doctor I get from my Paramedic work (not qualified yet so please don't tell the HPC I used the title lol)

I have no need to become a Doctor anymore as I get all the satisfaction I need from pre hospital care. I have enough scope of practice to keep me happy (for now!)

I love law and am training to be a lawyer. Got my professional exams in January (crammed 2 years education into 5 months) and then I am writing my dissertation in June. Why law? Big difference eh??? It's helping people in a completely different way but I am really helping people. The advice and help I give is so important that it can seriously affect people's lives. I had a run in with a dodgy copper and this left me in court for 9 months. Luckily the truth came out and I am a free man again but it changed me.

I realised that the law is an ass and the Police are bent. I wanted to protect the innocent citizen and ensure that justice was served rather than innocent people being convicted so that a copper could "get a result" or a barrister could further his own career by letting another barrister win a case at the cost of his own client's liberty.

I intend to train for higher advocacy rights so that I can do everything that a Barrister can do.

I also like being a know it all and love people coming to me for advice. (Sorry but it's better than liking happy slapping or drugs or something lol)

Why change to law? Well the money is a nice incentive and the reasons for wanting to do medicine I satisfy from doing emergency ambulance work.

Wanting to help people is often the reason I hear from most med students and at my interview for med school I said "I bet every other person has sat in front of you and said 'I want to help people'....." and then I gave my reasons. Wanting to help people isn't enough. You can help people as a teacher, as a lawyer, an accountant, a counsellor,  social worker or volunteer.

So that is why I quit medicine for law. I realised that I wanted to help people in a different way and that everything I wanted from medicine I got from paramedicine (although I'm not a qualified Paramedic yet!)

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« Reply #12 on: 05/10/2005 01:48:40 »
YAY thank you dr.Kev!!!!!!

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« Reply #13 on: 05/10/2005 02:04:08 »
YAYYYY !!...nice one Kev, and by posting your post you have helped us too !.

ps: Can I call you Kev ?..or do you prefer Kevin ?

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« Reply #14 on: 05/10/2005 14:19:21 »
I don't understand! How have I helped you?????

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« Reply #15 on: 05/10/2005 20:24:48 »
I can see the attraction of medicine for a scientist, it is one of the few technical jobs you aren't expected to give up to become a manager after ten years! :)

I couldn't do it myself though, not enough empathy.  It's bad enough having to deal with customers ("Oh, Simmer, what have you done with that 5 we gave you last year for a scoping study?") never mind the general public! :(
 

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« Reply #16 on: 05/10/2005 20:46:36 »
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Originally posted by drkev

I don't understand! How have I helped you?????

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...by anwering the post !!!....Kev !

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« Reply #17 on: 05/10/2005 20:49:25 »
Yes thank you! NO one was answering execpt good ol Neil and...ME! ;-)

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« Reply #18 on: 19/04/2006 21:57:23 »
so how's the legal career coming kevin ?

there's no Kevin fisher on the law society register... ( presuming that you are referring to solicitor exam given that you talk of going for higher advocacy rights )

or did the failure of the Ambulance related ventures get in the way  ( you have  identifed yourself as a director of Portsmouth Ambulance Service Limited so you can't squirm out of that question )
 

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« Reply #19 on: 20/04/2006 00:29:44 »
Well if you are willing to expand the question to all science, I to can contribute to this topic. I study chemistry and I hope to work in a pharmaceutic company(janssens pharmaceutica if possible) one day. I chose this direction because of interest, I just love to learn new things every day! But to come back on your question, isn't money allways a motivation certainly when your younger, like me. But when money is the only motivation I think you won't last either, you have to find joy in what you do or you will never succeed(says someone who didn't even finish school yet).

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« Reply #20 on: 20/04/2006 03:49:25 »
I agree mostly with wim however, I believe a person can succeed when money is the only motivation, and often succeed greatly, but I don't think that person will ever feel personally fulfilled.

Personally, I always loved biology, especially marine biology.  When it came time to decide my area of pursuit, I didn't think I could make a living as a marine biologist, thus, with a general interest in all things biological, and an affinity for helping people, I chose a career in medicine.  Therefore my decision was based to a significant degree on money.

Move the clock forward 20 years.  I now run a busy practice, but since I chose family practice, the financial rewards never materialized.  However, I am more or less content in my capacity to help the Human Race in my little corner of the world.  Yet,I still have an ache in my heart to study the metabolic processes of some forgotten organism in the South Pacific, so am I fulfilled?

I see some physicians(specialists) run thier practice merely to maximize profits without the love of medicine.  They earn a great deal of money, yet I wouldn't consider them "successful"
 

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« Reply #21 on: 30/04/2006 14:59:53 »
Who is that ********? Maybe one of the pricks from the ambulance999 forum I think I know who you are but you have no support here numpty.

I am not on the law society register because I am not a solicitor yet DUH!!!! I am a student and I will not be on the register for at least two years (maybe more) DUH!!!!

F*** off back to the ambulance forum with the other johnny tossers

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« Reply #22 on: 13/05/2006 18:20:42 »
oh nice to see the high quality of canadiate that a career in the legal profession attracts.

how do you know i will have no support here, is that perhaps because they don't know your true colours ...

as for having to resort to  profanity so quickly... i really do despair , espeically for one who aspires to advocacy in the higher courts  where  well constructed prose and sound reasoning is the  stock in trade of the advocate.

 perhaps one day, you might gain some insight into why you have found yourself in the positions you have...
 
and if Ambulance 999 offends you so much why did you  create a sock puppet  after you were banned ? every wondered why some of 'pas' posts to the firstaidcafe  take so long to be approved if ever?
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« Reply #23 on: 25/05/2006 06:50:10 »
I'm not a medical doctor & certainly money was not a motive for my taking my PhD. I'm just a nosey lilttle beaver & wanted to know more.

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