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« on: 12/02/2010 18:27:02 »
Omid learned the five psychosexual stages of our life in psychology's class
the first stage was oral (which means sucking) stage thats at the age of 1year in whihc kids suck the breasts of their mother.
so our teacher told us that kids who have not suck enough they are more likely to be smokers,mean and selfish while those who've suck more then enough are likely to be more giving
So what omid wana know is that is it true?
omid'd share the next four stages too as we go through it in the class ;)


 

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« Reply #1 on: 12/02/2010 21:09:41 »
Your teacher really offered that conclusion as to how someone will turn out dependent on whether they were breast-fed or not ?

I'd like to know if that's based on bona-fide study or not......... because it doesn't sound right to me.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 13/02/2010 10:28:21 »
You/your teacher is talking specifically about Freudian Psychology...
 

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« Reply #3 on: 13/02/2010 18:01:08 »
I'm surprised anyone teaches Freudian psychology these days except as an example of bad "science".
 

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« Reply #4 on: 13/02/2010 19:08:00 »
You/your teacher is talking specifically about Freudian Psychology...

Yep you right

Dont you think his theory is bit odd?
Means what omid wana point out is the phallic stage that he mentioned
Does it really make sense?
How come a kid between the age of 3-5/6 years (where he/she doesnt even know what sex is) get attratcted sexually to his/her parents????????
thats so not true >:(
 
 

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« Reply #5 on: 14/02/2010 13:01:00 »
It's usually taught to give psychology students a greater historical perspective, I think to show the paradigm shifts that have occurred in the subject. There is evidence that some Freudian inspired psychotherapies are useful; but it's a highly controversial area, & only those daft Americans really give any attention to it nowadays.

The original research done by Freud is not scientifically accurate, & the culture he grew up in was much different to ours. The time he grew up in - sexual behaviour & practices were very repressed, so it's natural he would've found that to be the root of many psychological problems in his day. Psychologists should find it hard to universalise conclusions - though they often do, unfortunately. I'm not sure it can be much of a science for that reason, though even if it isn't a science or isn't a good science, it's very useful.
 

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« Reply #6 on: 14/02/2010 21:59:55 »
"though even if it isn't a science or isn't a good science, it's very useful."
What as; poetry?

It could be used as an example of bad science, but only if it's pointed out that it's bad science. As far as I can see that hasn't happened here.
« Last Edit: 14/02/2010 22:01:29 by Bored chemist »
 

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« Reply #7 on: 15/02/2010 08:05:09 »
Forgetting Freud..  an attraction between a  child and their (sexual opposite) parent is not uncommon. Many young girls want to marry their dads.. and it's been suggested that we deliberately seek out partners that are like our parents.

Of course that generally doesn't apply to extremes... it's an imperfect science.
 

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« Reply #8 on: 17/02/2010 22:04:21 »
Also we seem to find people of the opposite sex (or same:) looking like ourselves, sharing some facial resemblance f.ex, sort of more 'attractive'?
And, would that explain why some dogs are so remarkably alike their 'owners'?
 

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« Reply #9 on: 18/02/2010 14:40:29 »
As Omid appears to be studying psychology, what does Omid think about the fact that Omid only ever refers to themself in the third person?
 

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« Reply #10 on: 18/02/2010 15:13:35 »
When my daughter was 5 years old her class wa talking about what their moms and dads did and the talk come around about what you want to do when you grow up! My Sarah said she wanted to grow up and marry her dad because he was the cutest and best dad in the world!
It had nothing to do with sex! She had not a clue what sex was at that age. She new that he was a man who loved her and was always good to her. He did things with her all the time back then. He was a good father and she saw the good in him and he gave to her regardless of her behavior he accepted her as she was and she accepted him and loved him also.. We wer her immediate world she was attracted to the nurturing love she recieved and not anything sexual...I do not think it was a sexual attraction but a nurturing loving one, between a father and daughter.. Perfectly normal in my book.
Later in life I do believe she looked for more in her partner.. the humor her father had and someone laid back like him.. but still I think she sees that as a nurturing type of man..like her father was for her.
 

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« Reply #11 on: 18/02/2010 16:35:15 »
As Omid appears to be studying psychology, what does Omid think about the fact that Omid only ever refers to themself in the third person?

Atually that's how omid speaks in her daily life :-X
e.g. if omid is late for college and wants Papa to drop omid so omid won't say that " I am getting late so please drop ME" but instead "omid is getting late so please drop omid"
Omid's been like this since omid was 6 (thats what papa say) ::)
 

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« Reply #12 on: 18/02/2010 17:54:52 »
I've met a lot of men that are still in the sucking and phallic stages...but that's another story. Both my boys went through stages between 5-7 when they became fascinated with my boobs. They also wanted to give me passionate kisses. I had to explain to them the different types of love that there are and that touching boobs and passionate snogs are not something that sons do with mums. Sexual discovery is a gradual process and, appropriate behaviour is all part of that. Some children are aware that they are tom boys or girly boys at this age which may become transgenderism. What I'm saying is the observed behaviour is correct but the conclusions may not be.
 

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« Reply #13 on: 19/02/2010 06:33:39 »
what?

They don't have cooties any more?
Nobody told me?
 

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« Reply #14 on: 20/02/2010 07:43:51 »
As Omid appears to be studying psychology, what does Omid think about the fact that Omid only ever refers to themself in the third person?

Atually that's how omid speaks in her daily life :-X
e.g. if omid is late for college and wants Papa to drop omid so omid won't say that " I am getting late so please drop ME" but instead "omid is getting late so please drop omid"
Omid's been like this since omid was 6 (thats what papa say) ::)

That's very interesting but I can't help noting that you've completely avoided answering the question ;D
 

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« Reply #15 on: 20/02/2010 18:25:00 »
Psychology is fun, and sometimes it even work. But as a science it's changing shape the whole time. Humans all contains a multitude, and we all define ourselves inside our strata of social interaction, like where we live, the ideals and beliefs shaping us, and what we make of it ourselves.

As for looking at yourself from a 'removed perspective' as Omid likes. Well, I think it's her  business, and as such private. But it sure make her sort of unique here, doesn't it :)

Rarely does it happen to us that we really sort of get 'lifted out of our skulls' to really see ourselves interact, but when it happens for real you will remember it as one of the most amazing experiences you've ever had.
 

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« Reply #16 on: 23/02/2010 17:52:47 »
That's very interesting but I can't help noting that you've completely avoided answering the question ;D

Hey LeeE
omid did find the answer to your question

Actually omid got a cousin and she speaks exact the same (refer herself as 3rd person) and her papa told omid that omid learn this while watching her cz she's about 2years older then omid.

omid knows that you curious why is she like that?

So her papa told omid that she learn it from her favourite cartoon series where the princess refer herself as 3rd person in order to make her look different and better then the rest.

Now coming to how's it related to psychology?

SO, do you remember Bandura Ross and Ross experiment (the social learning theory) where it says that children learn by watching.

omid's and her cousin's this habit stems from there.
Fair enough??????????????? ::) ::) ::)
 

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« Reply #17 on: 24/02/2010 09:35:23 »
So her papa told omid that she learn it from her favourite cartoon series...

Aha, that is interesting.  It seems similar, to me, to the way that people assimilate and adopt new behaviours, for example, like High Rising Terminal/Australian Questioning Intonation (this was discussed fairly recently in another thread).

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SO, do you remember Bandura Ross and Ross experiment (the social learning theory) where it says that children learn by watching.

Actually, nope, I've never formally studied psychology, but I'm certainly aware that much of the skills-based stuff I've learned has been through observation of others rather than by study i.e. I've been lucky enough to learn a lot from other people's mistakes (which is not to say that I haven't made enough mistakes of my own).

The only bit of my question left outstanding now (and remember that you're under no obligation to answer personal questions about yourself) is what do you think about it?  ;D
 

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« Reply #18 on: 26/02/2010 11:23:50 »
Actually, nope, I've never formally studied psychology, but I'm certainly aware that much of the skills-based stuff I've learned has been through observation of others rather than by study i.e. I've been lucky enough to learn a lot from other people's mistakes (which is not to say that I haven't made enough mistakes of my own).

Well, it is a psychological study in which it says that how children imitate the action of others to model their own behaviour. omid guess its much clear now [8D]
is it????????? :-\

The only bit of my question left outstanding now is what do you think about it?  ;D

Well omid must admit that by using the 3rd term omid don't feel better then others but certainly different then the rest around omid. ;)
 

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« Reply #19 on: 26/02/2010 11:58:27 »
Fair enough.

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