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Who am I?
« Reply #50 on: 11/07/2011 07:42:59 »
Not my turn, but here goes:

-- I had a particular interest in the human soul, as my name might (co-incidentally) suggest. This interest was the main motivation behind my scientific researches.
-- I discovered and described something new and important, but saw it in a totally mistaken theoretical framework. It is the main reason my name is remembered today.
-- I am usually remembered and credited as one of three co-discoverers of this thing.
 

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« Reply #51 on: 11/07/2011 10:51:55 »
'dephlogisticated' is one of my very favourite words
 

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« Reply #52 on: 11/07/2011 14:12:36 »
right on, imaatfal
 

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« Reply #53 on: 11/07/2011 17:21:44 »
Spike Milligan?
 

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« Reply #54 on: 14/07/2011 01:18:58 »
Heath Ledger?
 

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« Reply #55 on: 21/12/2011 23:15:11 »
I
D.Mendeleev   ;D and if correct it should be known that different sources indicate that he was either one of 11,13,14 or 17 siblings......

Who am I?  Some of my work involved identifying the killer of silkworms. By body lies beneath an institute named after myself...... who am I?
Mendeleev also was the Father of the Modern Periodic table. I did not know he had lots of siblings.  Great post.
 

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« Reply #56 on: 02/03/2012 00:32:57 »
who am I...?

The guy I worked for.....  real big shot, household name.  Me?  Well, I did some pretty good work too, kinda overshadowed by The Boss tho..... guess that happens, no regrets tho.

See, thing is, I had actually met The Boss and we became friends before I started working with him....  basically I was his galley slave grad assistant.  We actually got pretty close.  I am godfather to his children. 

The Boss.... lemme tell you, this guy has researched and written about a lot, and I mean A LOT of topics...  the depth and breadth he went into and the ideas he developed are amazing, if sometimes a bit intimidating.....  and for what its worth, being his #2 was the opportunity of a lifetime.... but damn, he sometimes drove some of us a bit crazy, couldn't seem to sit still..... was always wandering around and we would all have to chase after him to hear what he was saying.

So, like I was saying....  The Boss had near rock star status (well, as it applies to someone in his line anyway) but for reasons that... well...  need not be gone into right now, things.... um.....  lets just say that the situation got a bit dicey for us at home and we considered it the better part of valor to make ourselves scarce for a while. 

So, The Boss and I split town and we head, as it happens, back to my old stomping grounds where I figure we can hole up a while, relatively unmolested.  Now, here we were, stuck on this island in the middle of.... um....  that doesn't really matter.....  but  here away from the school we found ourselves with a bit of time on our hands. Needless to say,  guy like The Boss isn't going to just sit around picking his nose, so he set to work on a new research project, and so did I. 

I used my time there researching and authoring a set of books on plants.  Describing observed specimens, categorizing them by properties, and attempting to explore and describe particular aspects of their nature.  This turned out to be pretty well received and regarded.  Some people even viewed it as groundbreaking.  The Boss turned his attention to animals, with his usual intensity and output.

Anyway, so the situation, shall we say, got a little less threatening for us and we decided that we could safely return (to his) home and resume our work there.  Kindof annoying how external politics can drive these things and create such personal dislocations in people's lives and work,  but then again our self imposed exile seems to have allowed us to produce some seminal works.

Again, I kinda found myself in The Boss' shadow and my published output may have been smaller compared to his,  but it was a damn sight more and better than anyone else I knew of, and dammit, I broke a lot of important ground too!

And, yes the pun IS intentional, and I don't give a gohwdam if Bass and Jimbob get all bent out of shape about my use of the term 'Stones'.  (Now, don't go getting the wrong idea.....  I think they are great guys... know their stuff... 'distinct' sense of humor .... hell, I just might add them to my compilation of Characters.)

Meteorology, physics, sensation and other things all interest me....... and NO!  I _am not_ spreading myself too thin. 

Enough of this....  I really have to get back to work....  things are starting to get awfully busy around here....  I seem to spend more of my time doing all this administrivia and operating the outfit than actually doing much real research nowadays.....  wages of success, I guess.

So, who am I?

« Last Edit: 03/03/2012 05:06:46 by diogenesNY »
 

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« Reply #57 on: 06/03/2012 11:17:13 »
Diogenes congratulations on a very clever presentation of a remarkable puzzle. I do not have a solution, but it has inspired me to broaden my horizons by reading quite a bit of biography.

I have found three near misses, but none of them close enough to be a solution. Interestingly two of them involve namesakes: George Bass, navigator and zoological cataloguer, early 19th century Australian, and George Bass 20th century American Underwater archaeologist. The third is some sort of twist on the Lyell, Darwin, Wallace triumvirate, but that one really feels like force fitting.
 

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« Reply #58 on: 06/03/2012 17:41:17 »
I was thinking along the lines of Plato and Aristotle - but not enough evidence.
 

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« Reply #59 on: 08/03/2012 01:21:10 »
I was thinking along the lines of Plato and Aristotle - but not enough evidence.

Theophrastus? (He hung out with Aristotle.)
 

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« Reply #60 on: 08/03/2012 02:58:24 »
Oh, my! The solution is, of course, Diogenes!
 

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« Reply #61 on: 08/03/2012 04:16:37 »
Geezer for the WIN!  It _was_ Theophrastus (ca371-ca287BC)

(Please note:  The included Wikipedia links are for illustrative purposes and do not represent citations of fact or scholarship.  A cursory review of the cited Wikipedia articles seems to show that they are generally acceptable, although I might take issue with some of the details presented.  Any presented matter of fact that interests you should be treated with the same vigor and skepticism as any item of fact otherwise elsewhere presented, gathered or derived.  Homework is mandatory. YMMV.)

newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophrastus [nonactive]

He was first Aristotle's personal friend, then later a student and Aristotle's personal assistant at the Lyceum newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyceum_(Classical) [nonactive].  Later, after Aristotle's death he acceded to control (chairmanship?) of the Lyceum, according to provisions in Aristotle's will.  Some of his other students thought that they were more in line for the Job.   The Lyceum was home to Aristotle's Peripatetic School newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripatetic_school [nonactive] (he walked all over the place while lecturing, and his students had to follow him at a fast walk like a mob to hear what he was saying)  of philosophy.  Theophrastus then presided over The Lyceum for about 36 years.

In any case, they were close personal friends as well.  Although they composed their own works, much of their research was collaborative.  One notable example is their measurement of the circumference of the earth.  Climbing mountains and taking observations and measurements, using non-decimal, non-algebraic trigonometry they came up with a (maybe - there is some issue about the value of the units used:  stadia) twice as large estimate of the Earth's circumference.  Not too bad IMHO.

Theophrastus is considered by some to be the father of Botany, and his ten volume (of which 9 volumes survive intact) collection entitled On Plants newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_Plantarum [nonactive], describes observed plants and attempts to catagorise them into groups according to properties (e.g. leafy, produces nuts, produces gum, etc).  He also wrote an eight (of which six survive) volume treatise On the Causes of Plants.  These works were essentially empirical (and IMHO quite modern) in nature.

He was an extremely apt observer of the natural world after Aristotles nature, and although there was much overlap, Theophrastus interests also struck out in many original directions.  He had an extraordinary output of published writings on an extremely broad range of topics.  The quantity and scope of his interests and publications would seem enormous by any standard, except perhaps as overshadowed by the even greater output of Aristotle.  Unlike Aristotle, however, his written works are not so artfully written.  Some of theme seem to be more outlines or lecture notes on a given subject than a narrative text.

Aristotle had a brief professional association with a young Alexander the Great (as his tutor).  When the Romans 'liberated' Athens, some years later, the anti-Macedonian sentiment got quite strong and Aristotle and Theophrastus headed back to Theo's home of Lesbos for a while and that is where they did much of their work on animals and plants respectively.  They eventually returned to Athens several years later and resumed their respective careers.

Geezer, I am sure you got this, but for clarity's sake the (anachronistic)reference to Bass and JimBob is to two denizens of a particular other subboard here on NS.  They are geologists (and a pair of real characters... I think I can say without serious fear of contradiction) and would have good cause to take issue with the use of the term 'stones' - at least if it were used that way today.  At the time, the distinction between rock and mineral was not particularly defined.  He wrote an empirical book 'On Stones' grouping various rocks and minerals by appearance, behavior, and other observable properties.  He is also author of a book 'Characters' on observed human behavior, also attempting to organize things by groups.

His other output is varied and comprises subjects both scientific and humanistic.  There are writings on ethics, physics, politics, education and many other things.  There does seem to be a common current of observation and recording, even if the data does not always lead to a specific conclusion in the more naturalistic studies.

An interesting and accomplished individual.

@damocles:  My namesake (Diogenes of Sinope, the Cynic Philosopher (flourished ca.4c BC) newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope [nonactive] as opposed to the somewhat similarly named Diogenes Laertius, the historian) was certainly an interesting individual, but he was not a scientist.  He came from Sinope, a city on the Black Sea (modern Turkish Sinop).  His comments and observations were primarily on ethics and matters of human nature, education, behavior and the like.  No directly written works (of which there are known to be several) of Diogenes of Sinope survive, and what legacy we have of his comes from quoted fragments and stories.  He was a personal friend (frenemy?) of Plato and crashed all of Athens' best parties and generally made a public nuisance of himself. 

A story describes his own encounter with Alexander the Great that I think is highly amusing and instructive although it is not really relevant to this forum, but highly worth looking up.

Hope this was entertaining and instructive. :)

diogenesNY
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« Reply #62 on: 08/03/2012 09:38:14 »
Kudos to the Geezer

And to DiogenesNY for a great puzzle.
 

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« Reply #63 on: 10/03/2012 01:56:07 »
Ain't Google a wonderful thing! I had never heard of the guy before this.
 

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« Reply #64 on: 06/09/2012 23:31:01 »
I was not a scientist, though I was closely connected with scientists.
I was quite famous in my own right, and greatly accomplished in several areas.
When receiving a major award, I commented that five of my closest relatives had all received Nobel prizes, but not me.
I died sometime in the last decade, at the age of 102.
 

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« Reply #65 on: 29/09/2012 13:07:33 »
Not much activity here! Clue: the Nobel prizes were, in order, physics, physics, chemistry, chemistry, chemistry, and peace (and yes, that is 6 of them).
 

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« Reply #66 on: 29/09/2012 20:59:39 »
Damocles...

Just to shorten the list.
Is the person on this page?

List of centenarian scientists.
 

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« Reply #67 on: 29/09/2012 22:21:57 »
Damocles...

Just to shorten the list.
Is the person on this page?

List of centenarian scientists.

No, the person is not on that list. S/he was not a scientist, but 4 of the closest relatives were. World standard achievements in 3 fields, but best known in connection with UNICEF.
 

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« Reply #68 on: 30/09/2012 17:19:01 »
Sorry - had missed this thread was active again.  That's an easy one Damocles - 6 Nobel prizes, 5 members of same family - has to be the Curies. Marie, Pierre , Irine and her husband Frederick Joiliot-Curie and the other in-law Henry Laboussie.  Henry's wife was the other sibling Eve - she was the only one of the Cuire family who did not win a Nobel!  She was not a scientist - although with a family like that you will not be surprised to know she was quite something!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%88ve_Curie
 

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« Reply #69 on: 02/10/2012 12:13:06 »
And that, of course, is quite right Imatfaal. Clearly almost nobody is checking this forum.
 

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« Reply #70 on: 02/10/2012 16:30:33 »
Who asked,

"Could you patent the sun?"


Ok, so a quick web search will give an answer.  Nonetheless...  an interesting phrase.
 

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« Reply #71 on: 03/10/2012 22:50:01 »
That was Albert Einstein, checking with his boss when a questionable application came in.
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« Reply #72 on: 03/10/2012 23:02:31 »
An appropriate item after the last CliffordK, actually, because the Curies steadfastly refused to patent anything arising out of their work on radioactivity.

I got the general field and the rough timing right, but not the specifics, before doing my "quick web search".
 

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« Reply #73 on: 06/10/2012 04:58:41 »
This thread seems strangely quiet to me; I would have hoped there were a few more forum users interested in providing/solving this sort of puzzle. I greatly enjoy it.

So it has been a few days since the thread was paralysed (significant word) by CliffordK's last offering. I will fire up again.

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Who am I? My career as a leading scientist in my field was marred by an unfortunate misinterpretation of some results in the middle of it. The case had some interesting parallels with the later "cold fusion" story. The work in question was indirectly linked with the name of an American satirist, political commentator, and sci-fi author.
 

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« Reply #74 on: 09/10/2012 15:24:16 »
Damocles - the only thing I can think of is "lies, damn lies, and statistics" and Samuel Clemens  aka Mark Twain.  But I cannot link this any further
 

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