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« on: 26/07/2010 20:53:39 »
New Hard Drive Setup Issues
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My hard drive crashed and so I got a replacement.

I set the BIOS settings to [AUTO] but I wonder if that was the smartest thing to do.

The size that it displayed seemed to be a little low.  I am wondering if maybe I should have done something other than set the BIOS to automatic determine the settings for the new hard drive.

I suspect I did something wrong because when I have tried to install the Ubuntu Operating System it is stuck on 36 % when formating and/or configuring the hard drive.

How do I go about making the BIOS hard drive settings by hand?

I do think there is something screwy going on.  I have two hard drives in the system.  The old slave drive BIOS settings has this:

CHS CAPACITY        8422 MB
MAX LBA CAPACITY  120034 MB

The new master hard drive has this:

CHS CAPACITY         8422 MB
MAX LBA CAPACITY     8422 MB

I am wondering now is that maybe we have gone beyone what the old motherboard and BIOS cand handle for a the size of the hard drive.  If so, maybe a partition is in order.  What do you think?

The Hard Drive is a Western Digital PATA
320 GB
WD3200JBRTL
ULTRA DMA/100
8MB BUFFER 7200 RPM
if I do not get it running today, I think I will try using the old slave drive as the master drive.

The screen says, regarding the motherboard:

Award Medallion BIOS V6.0

COPYRIGHT (C) 1984-2001, Award Software, Inc.

ACPI BIOS Revision 1003. LV

Inter (R) Gleron (TM) 1200 MHz

Memory Test 261120K OK+ 1024 shared memory

and so on...

I think the motherboard cannot handle a 320 gig hard drive.  Unless I can get some magic from you, I am going to take the new hard drive back to the store and swap out the old slave hard drive and make it the new master drive.


 

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« Reply #1 on: 14/08/2010 19:12:54 »
Download the motherboard manual, there might be information about the maximum supported hard drive size or even contact the manufacturer.

If the motherboard has SATA sockets, chances are strong it'll support a size greater than 320gb, also have you tried formatting it with NTFS?
 

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« Reply #2 on: 14/08/2010 21:26:48 »
New Hard Drive Setup Issues
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My hard drive crashed and so I got a replacement.

I set the BIOS settings to [AUTO] but I wonder if that was the smartest thing to do.

The size that it displayed seemed to be a little low.  I am wondering if maybe I should have done something other than set the BIOS to automatic determine the settings for the new hard drive.

I suspect I did something wrong because when I have tried to install the Ubuntu Operating System it is stuck on 36 % when formating and/or configuring the hard drive.

How do I go about making the BIOS hard drive settings by hand?

I do think there is something screwy going on.  I have two hard drives in the system.  The old slave drive BIOS settings has this:

CHS CAPACITY        8422 MB
MAX LBA CAPACITY  120034 MB

The new master hard drive has this:

CHS CAPACITY         8422 MB
MAX LBA CAPACITY     8422 MB

I am wondering now is that maybe we have gone beyone what the old motherboard and BIOS cand handle for a the size of the hard drive.  If so, maybe a partition is in order.  What do you think?

The Hard Drive is a Western Digital PATA
320 GB
WD3200JBRTL
ULTRA DMA/100
8MB BUFFER 7200 RPM
if I do not get it running today, I think I will try using the old slave drive as the master drive.

The screen says, regarding the motherboard:

Award Medallion BIOS V6.0

COPYRIGHT (C) 1984-2001, Award Software, Inc.

ACPI BIOS Revision 1003. LV

Inter (R) Gleron (TM) 1200 MHz

Memory Test 261120K OK+ 1024 shared memory

and so on...

I think the motherboard cannot handle a 320 gig hard drive.  Unless I can get some magic from you, I am going to take the new hard drive back to the store and swap out the old slave hard drive and make it the new master drive.


COPYRIGHT (C) 1984-2001, Award Software, Inc.
To early for sata sockets on board

Ultra DMA IDE drive has a special IDE cable, 80 conductor with 40 pin IDE socket.
What was  the old hard drive ?
« Last Edit: 14/08/2010 21:44:43 by tommya300 »
 

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« Reply #3 on: 02/09/2010 08:04:49 »
You may need to reset the jumper on the back of the disc to "PRIMARY", also, in the BIOS, UNIX likes to run with the disc set to NORMAL after disc detection(not LBA etc).
What journal and Kernel type are you using?
Note: Another thing to do that helps is to fill in manually the disc on the main screen "table" of devices, the LANZ , PRECOMP, HEADS etc that you can fins written on the housing of the HD. Also the jumper pattern choices should be there too.
« Last Edit: 02/09/2010 08:06:48 by nicephotog »
 

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« Reply #4 on: 14/09/2010 07:54:48 »
Why you choose so complex way to setup your hard drive?
Hah, just kidding, I just feel we can choose more efficient method to finish the operation--if I were you, I'd like to choose the 3rd software to work the issue out.
Try to use the Partition Assistant. This tool has free Edition named Partition Assistant Home Editition.
newbielink:http://www.extend-partition.com/free-partition-manager.html [nonactive]
Before you choose the tool, you also can read the detail article first--Guidelines on how to partition a hard drive by Creating, Deleting, Formatting and Resizing Partition.
 

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« Reply #5 on: 15/09/2010 18:16:01 »
Could you see it in Ubuntu?

Look here.
Also you can update your bios, if it's a flash
« Last Edit: 15/09/2010 18:19:38 by yor_on »
 

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« Reply #6 on: 21/09/2010 04:52:59 »
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The screen says, regarding the motherboard:

Award Medallion BIOS V6.0
COPYRIGHT (C) 1984-2001, Award Software, Inc.
ACPI BIOS Revision 1003. LV
Inter (R) Gleron (TM) 1200 MHz
Memory Test 261120K OK+ 1024 shared memory
and so on...
[quote /]

The above(initial problem question) is usually a H-DISC "Jumper-setting" problem(on the back of the disc).
If he uses "LBA mode" for the disc detect setting the Linux will need to be partitioned as LBA file-system journal. However, I think the "/" root partition for the bin files are always on "ext2" as the active for Linux, also you generally require to choose a kernel appropriate for the file-system if its a bit different from ext2.

The disc detect choice should match the first main BIOS setup listing screen(not the stuff above in the quote , after you press the key to go into BIOS-Setup the first menu choice goes to "a table of DEVICES") about the disc for the journal "mode".


At that screen(above quote) there should be a listing of a key or key pair to press to go into the BIOS for setup.
Be sure you put your new disc on the primary IDE belt, thats determined by that plugged into the marked(or manual book annotated) primary port slot on the main-board.

If you "auto detect" your HD in the BIOS-Setup you will also need to select a coresponding disc IO type such as LBA,NORMAL e.t.c before finalising each find, but also be sure it matches "the order of DEVICES table-listed" in the first bios-setup screen main menu choice.
You can prompt that a bit by getting all the before mentioned information "printed on the back of the HD's and other devices on the primary and secondary belts". Other devices will be there also if there are extra IDE port adapters(ISA or PCI cards) to the main board.
« Last Edit: 21/09/2010 05:05:06 by nicephotog »
 

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« Reply #7 on: 06/12/2010 14:15:18 »
I think Pentium I motherboards were limited to 8 or 10 GB.  I don't remember the exact years and models though.  Yours may be just slightly newer than that.  I'm guessing it came out concurrent with the PIII which should be fine.

However, it may require some faking out of the motherboard configurations.

If I remember right, Win NT also had some boot sector size limits. 

A newer version of Ubuntu should be fine though, but may have troubles if the drive must have some kind of soft emulation mode.

I know that Fedora automatically sets up several partitions on your drive.  Does Ubuntu do that too?

Anyway, any luck?

Did you try using a Windows install disk (XP?) to format the drive?
 

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