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Dearest Peeps Whom Know Stuff That Is Like Well Kewl !

As a sheepy I of course luff to update stuff ....I go out of my way to ring all my family at 3am every morning to give them updates on the events of the previous day...they are alsways so well and happy and this is demonstrated by the playful banter that are the friendly jibes like "Leave us alone".....or "Piss off"...or "please go somewhere and die"...lol....awww.....such a wonderful family ! My neighbour gets the morse code version on his wall !

So, imgaine my surprise when I had to install a replacement blank hard drive into my computer for it to spend the next day or two CONTINUOUSLY downloading updates and installing them !...Look here I am pointing to the zillionth time I have rebooted .....and that's just in the last one hour !


My Finger Pointing To A Rebooting Screen
For The  Zillionth Time




So, WHY !!! ??..Why can it not install one almighty update in one go ?..why do I have to go through this laborious monotnous repetitve procedural nightmare ?...it's downloading MORE updates right now !!!

Sheeessh !!...I'm going to have a lot more than the ususal 2 hour chit chat with my family tonight when I call them !



Hope ewe can help..

Hugs and shmishes


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« Last Edit: 28/07/2010 18:57:06 by neilep »


 

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Why So Many Updates To A New Hard Drive/Operating System ?
« Reply #1 on: 29/07/2010 04:25:51 »
It's been sometime since I did a bare metal restore from the Vista DVD, with 18 months worth of updates (~100 updates), but IIRC the Microsoft updates download much quicker if you switch off any add-on firewall / anti-virus ...

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Vista Updates Won't Install
by sretep66 - 30/05/09 06:28 In reply to: Windows Vista updates are available, but won't download and install by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Turn off any after-market software firewalls, such as Symantic or McAfee. Use Windows Defender while downloading Microsoft Vista updates.
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-12546_102-0.html?threadID=344392&start=30

IIRC some Vista updates will not download at all unless the add-on security is switched off.

It may be possible to buy an up-to-date version of your OS on DVD for a nominal fee,
which could be more convenient than tying up your broadband for a day by downloading a few hundred updates e.g.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx

If an updated DVD is not available, once you have downloaded all the updates save a copy of the OS to an external hard-drive, removable memory card/stick, or burn to DVD so you never have to do that megadownload again. An OS will only take about 15 minutes to load from an external hard drive via USB2.0, a lot quicker than going through the broadband download ordeal.
« Last Edit: 29/07/2010 04:34:50 by RD »
 

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Why So Many Updates To A New Hard Drive/Operating System ?
« Reply #2 on: 29/07/2010 14:07:10 »
Thanks RD..This is all very helpful indeed......how do I copy the fully up to date OP system ?..is it stored as one gigantic massive file on the PC ?
 

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Why So Many Updates To A New Hard Drive/Operating System ?
« Reply #3 on: 29/07/2010 14:54:52 »
Just as you think you got the updates in a collection another mass download will come along.
Updates from Microsoft usually take less then a couple of hours at the slow 56k dialup speeds which is usually average connect speed of 33 and a third, hone down to 5 kbp/s.
A full evening sounds crazy, I sympathise.

I think Service Pack versions are ideal, like RD mentioned is the way to go.
Backing up the the operating system will get you to the present at which time of the backup.
 From that point on into the future there will be more updates, and this will hold true after the purchases.

In XP and Windows 7 ...Start- All Programs- Accessories- System Tools- Backup
Vista should have something the same, vista was disappointing to me right off the bat I did not persue it any farther.

Remember, I did not say it was bad or good it just did not fill my needs.

Speed of the machine with respect to the amount of Dynamic on board memory, if it is to low has a contributing factor to being a slow machine. Sometimes programs running in the background absorb memory resources is another factor.

XP, vista, Windows 7... I ran them all and found that my needs pointed to XP.
Vista responded slowly for me compairing it to XP and windows 7.
 Windows 7 responded as fast as XP.
Vista, and Windows 7 has My Network Places problems, dealing with Website and The old reliable FrontPage.
My needs here left me using XP. By 2014 when XP is to be retired, there will be a couple of new a version Operating Systems that will accommodate my needs.  
 
« Last Edit: 29/07/2010 15:25:27 by tommya300 »
 

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« Reply #4 on: 29/07/2010 15:26:09 »
Thank ewe very much tommya300.

My computer runs Business Vista...It does the job reasonably well and I am not aux fait with the other ops in any other capacity than just browsing and surfing  and using excel etc..so...in my experience...vista is OK...though...I know how widely "unliked" it is.

yes, this was my point regarding the updates...it seems to me that there is a chain reaction phenomena here and that one set of updates can only be downloaded when the preceding ones have been installed...

I do appreciate your comments and of course your concurrence with RD to back it up.

Thanks again
 
 

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« Reply #5 on: 29/07/2010 17:16:31 »
...how do I copy the fully up to date OP system ?..is it stored as one gigantic massive file on the PC ?

Only certain versions of  Vista come with the “Complete PC Backup” option which lets you back up everything, including the Vista OS, on an external hard drive.  It looks like Vista Business does have “Complete PC Backup” option, see the bottom line in this table … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vista_Ultimate#Comparison_chart

For versions of Vista, (or other OSes), which don't offer this “Complete PC Backup”, disc imaging software is available, some of it free, ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_cloning_software

BTW the Vista OS on its own is about 15Gb, (this figure does not include your "artistic" video collection or any other user data or applications), a back-up can be compressed down to fit on a couple of DVDs.
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