The Naked Scientists

The Naked Scientists Forum

Author Topic: can we learn the intelligence ?  (Read 3945 times)

Offline myriam

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 163
  • Many things are still like the Terre incognita
    • View Profile
    • powerful point
can we learn the intelligence ?
« on: 03/10/2010 19:44:17 »
can we learn the intelligence ?


 

Offline Make it Lady

  • Neilep Level Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4050
  • Hands-on fun for everyone!
    • View Profile
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #1 on: 03/10/2010 19:56:42 »
Do you mean can we learn to be intelligent.
 

Offline Don_1

  • Neilep Level Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6890
  • Thanked: 7 times
  • A stupid comment for every occasion.
    • View Profile
    • Knight Light Haulage
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #2 on: 04/10/2010 11:27:16 »
Do you mean can we learn to be intelligent.

In my case, not a snowballs!
 

Offline myriam

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 163
  • Many things are still like the Terre incognita
    • View Profile
    • powerful point
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #3 on: 04/10/2010 11:32:07 »
if the brain is able to learn that means it is able to ameliorate its way of thinking !
 

Offline tommya300

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 655
    • View Profile
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #4 on: 04/10/2010 17:58:12 »
Object in question needs to be defined
I personally believe, "intelligence" is a non unit measurement capability to possess the ability to communicate on different levels of knowledge, successfully obtaining a difficult goal, without a hitch.
 
You can be smart but not intelligent, I do not know if you are intelligent and not smart?
The use of knowledge, to make a decision, may be a point to be concerned with.

************************************************
I searched the net, (Googled), for some sources of the term "intelligence"

What signifies intelligence?
What signifies constitutes intelligence?
What constitutes intelligence?
What designates intelligence?
Capability to communicate on any level designates intelligence.

I viewed different results in comparing between them all…
*************************************************
Definition: Intelligence

There are probably as many definitions of intelligence as there are experts who study it. Simply put, however, intelligence is the ability to learn about, learn from, understand, and interact with one’s environment. This general ability consists of a number of specific abilities, which include these specific abilities:
http://giftedkids.about.com/od/glossary/g/intelligence.htm

Definition of Intelligence

"…the term intelligence designates a complexly interrelated assemblage of functions, no one of which is completely or accurately known in man…(Yerkes, 1929, p. 524)”
http://www.indiana.edu/~intell/yerkes.shtml

Can you teach intelligence?
http://eqi.org/eidefs.htm
To
http://eqi.org/edi92.htm

Can article intelligence be real stupidity?
« Last Edit: 04/10/2010 18:04:49 by tommya300 »
 

Offline myriam

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 163
  • Many things are still like the Terre incognita
    • View Profile
    • powerful point
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #5 on: 16/10/2010 21:54:01 »
you are right tommya300 but what really made me thinking about the intelligence is  in fact when I saw the capability of some autistic people  with remarkable almost unbelievable savant mental abilities that seem to be far beyond the ken of others. take the example of kim peek , Stephen Wiltshire, Daniel Tammet .... with the malfunctioning of something in their brains, I wonder if we normal people can learn something from them, I can seem strange, silly maybe but Imagine what we can do if we have only the half of their stupendous capacities.
the question now is how, I have an idea about it but looking for your opinions first :)
 

Offline tommya300

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 655
    • View Profile
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #6 on: 17/10/2010 10:33:21 »
you are right tommya300 but what really made me thinking about the intelligence is  in fact when I saw the capability of some autistic people  with remarkable almost unbelievable savant mental abilities that seem to be far beyond the ken of others. take the example of kim peek , Stephen Wiltshire, Daniel Tammet .... with the malfunctioning of something in their brains, I wonder if we normal people can learn something from them, I can seem strange, silly maybe but Imagine what we can do if we have only the half of their stupendous capacities.
the question now is how, I have an idea about it but looking for your opinions first :)

Categories, pigeon hole placements, we, them, difference, same, bad, good, better, slow, fast...
to name a few, these items are used in everyday life!
Does everyone subconsciously express and gauge intelligence with the speed of problem solving?
Normal what is normal who has that monopoly?

I can not say what can be learned and what can be inherent. If a man went deaf, does his sight improve? Or visa verse?
Can a particular part of a belt driven machine work better, if the belt is slipping?

Some items can be learned through observation, some has to be experienced to know.
With Autism what is a common at a minimum amongst the character?
Hate, payback, greed, destructive acts, any negativity that standard life's experiences are missing, that walks hand in hand with Autism.

That would be a start of learning. This would give room for other more important items.
 Remember the phrase, "Having to many items in the fire".
 What I say here is not the do all end all, it is just and ideal start.
**********************
I am not smart enough to be Autistic, but I use to visualize the numeric values of years as a erratic, staircase,  path. The past and present was crisp, future years looked a bit foggy and far future went into a darker area.
 Means nothing to me, but just a day dream type feel.
It may sound dumb, but it is an experience that is triggered from any unusual event.
**********************

Problem solving of complex problems usually have the least complex and easiest solution.
Visualizing items differently, relating these visualization differently, can be learned, but defining what is visualized can not be tough, it just happens, at least that is what I think.

If you have any ideas that does not take extreme tactics to achieve, God Bless, and I hope for your success,  A-300, a perfect bowling score.
 
  

 
 
« Last Edit: 17/10/2010 10:46:36 by tommya300 »
 

Offline peppercorn

  • Neilep Level Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1466
    • View Profile
    • solar
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #7 on: 17/10/2010 15:57:23 »
I am not smart enough to be Autistic...

I'm not having a dig Tommy, but autism (or being on the autistic spectrum) is completely independent of intelligence.
 

Offline myriam

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 163
  • Many things are still like the Terre incognita
    • View Profile
    • powerful point
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #8 on: 31/10/2010 21:04:28 »
I think that  learning things and trying hard to think and make the brain functioning is so different from just receiving information all the time like living cool with his TV, I think that with all thinks that we already know and keep discovering now just can make the brain more lazy if we are not aware about the danger of keeping it receiving things so being more passive than active. In my point of view being aware of our ignorance is the most important first awareness, every thing else will be just links of a very long chain of knowledge creativity and amelioration, the needed results of being intelligent.
 

Offline maffsolo

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
    • View Profile
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #9 on: 01/11/2010 04:01:17 »
I think that  learning things and trying hard to think and make the brain functioning is so different from just receiving information all the time like living cool with his TV, I think that with all thinks that we already know and keep discovering now just can make the brain more lazy if we are not aware about the danger of keeping it receiving things so being more passive than active. In my point of view being aware of our ignorance is the most important first awareness, every thing else will be just links of a very long chain of knowledge creativity and amelioration, the needed results of being intelligent.

Yep sounds like part of a list of Levels leading to "Self Awareness"

Level 0: Confusion
Level 1: Differentiation
Level 2: Situation
Level 3: Identification
Level 4: Permanence
Level 5: Self-consciousness or ‘‘meta’’ self-awareness
 

Offline myriam

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 163
  • Many things are still like the Terre incognita
    • View Profile
    • powerful point
can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #10 on: 01/11/2010 20:48:12 »
I think that  learning things and trying hard to think and make the brain functioning is so different from just receiving information all the time like living cool with his TV, I think that with all thinks that we already know and keep discovering now just can make the brain more lazy if we are not aware about the danger of keeping it receiving things so being more passive than active. In my point of view being aware of our ignorance is the most important first awareness, every thing else will be just links of a very long chain of knowledge creativity and amelioration, the needed results of being intelligent.

Yep sounds like part of a list of Levels leading to "Self Awareness"

Level 0: Confusion
Level 1: Differentiation
Level 2: Situation
Level 3: Identification
Level 4: Permanence
Level 5: Self-consciousness or ‘‘meta’’ self-awareness


exactly
 

The Naked Scientists Forum

can we learn the intelligence ?
« Reply #10 on: 01/11/2010 20:48:12 »

 

SMF 2.0.10 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
SMFAds for Free Forums
 
Login
Login with username, password and session length