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« on: 10/12/2010 06:45:04 »
We view absolute zero as the lowest energy level of matter or energy, we view the speed of light as the most energetic energy level..... What if those are just cutoff points for a change in the nature of matter or enrgy. We may only be able to directly detect matter and energy within a limited range. It seems to me that there really isn't anything that mysterious about the idea of dark energy or dark matter, they are just different phases of matter and energy these phases could theoretically be infinite in number and the further you shift from our perspective the less interaction there is between the two phases. There could be an unimagineable amount of dark matter and energy out there having little to no effect upon measureable matter and energy within our universe. Ever wonder why the laws of physics seem to break down at super cool temps, they are not breaking down they are simply changed, same as the laws will change if you go above light speed energy potential.

For those who do not get what I am saying: You see the world around you in the form of reflected light waves, you can see only a small spectrum of the total light out there, most light does not get detected by your eyes because, they do not detect in those frequency ranges. ie The measurable universe is the frequencies that your eyes are able to detect and dark matter/energy is the frequencies you cannot detect. If you looked at energy levels as being equivelant to a frquency then you would get the basic idea. I would theorise that to cross the threshold of absolute zero or beyond light energy potential would require a phenominal amount of energy, but if you did, I believe you would simply find what we call dark energy/matter, except that it would no longer be dark to you or weakly interactive from that perspective or phase. I wish scientists would hurry up and get this figured out because I want know more.


 

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« Reply #1 on: 10/12/2010 07:31:20 »
If you can propose a practical experiment that would confirm your idea, it's likely to speed up the process a bit.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 12/12/2010 08:37:23 »
There are theories that "Space" or "The Universe" has a background temperature of about 2.735K.

If we accept that theory, then your theory would have to account for material being at a lower temperature (< 0K) than the background temperature.

People are able to get temperatures down to the boiling point of Helium (4.2K) relatively easily using expansion of gas methods.  Lower temperatures have been achieved using magnetic fields...  down to:

0.1 nK or 0.000 000 000 1 K.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/NehemieCange.shtml

Everything seems to indicate an asymptote of energy/temperature at about 0K.  The definition of Absolute zero is no molecular movement.  You would have to explain what the molecules are doing below 0K. 

One theory might be that it would be like ice...  Once the molecules are frozen in place, the temperature could fall further like ice.  But, if the cosmic background radiation > 0K, and we can't synthesize anything that would indicate lower temperatures....  Then we might never be able to observe lower temps.
 

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« Reply #3 on: 04/01/2011 15:24:31 »
darkmatter is..everything laid on a invisible grid and pouring thoughts on it ,, you ever thought of how simple everything really is...it is the reason for every action has a reaction...could also consits of instincts gut feeling and teeling things when to react...the reason why people created religions..ever thought of that anyone.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 10/01/2011 04:44:04 »
Well Mountain, I think physicist are well aware of the idea, as gluons, loops, strings ,virtual particles all speak about. And you're right, we have (at least) two borders Plank constants, defining the smallest meaningful amounts of length time and energy And then lights speed in a vacuum defining? Some sort of border.

To see that border you need to remember that as lights speed always will be the same, it means that as you are traveling, so close to light-speed that your shrinking universe almost can take place in your pocket, you still can find that light to travel at the same speed inside your rocket, as well as when measuring your pocket universes light speed coming at you.

So, what kind of 'border' is that?
 

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