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Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« on: 29/03/2006 19:45:46 »
de Chardin was a geologist. Why is he such a distinct figure in geology and also what else was he known for?

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #1 on: 30/03/2006 01:20:55 »
Was he? I know the name from psychology. He coined the term "noogenesis" - the growth of consciousness.

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #2 on: 30/03/2006 01:56:08 »
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Was he? I know the name from psychology. He coined the term "noogenesis" - the growth of consciousness.

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ODoctorBeaver, so you know about noogenisis, and that is part of what I was getting at. He was the first Jesuit - even Catholic priest - to question the necessity of the ordained priesthood to interceed on behalf of the individual in their salvation. He also is credited with fathering the Gaia theory. In geology he is known for the first geologic map of China, vertibrate palentologic work in the Goibi Desert and his supervision of the excavation of fossils of Peking Man - among many other areas.

A brilliant psychologist, geologist, theologin and philosopher.



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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #3 on: 30/03/2006 02:00:48 »
P.S.

I never knew one needed to be drunk or stoned to use a parachute. But now that I think about it, that wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #4 on: 30/03/2006 02:31:16 »
I never realised de Chardin was all of those things. I seem to remember about him being a Jesuit though.
*scrambles through the murky depths of his little rodent memory*

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #5 on: 30/03/2006 15:59:10 »
He also had one of the coolest names I can imagine. A true scholar. I know very little about him, but have long been aware of his skillfull blending of science and religion - a difficult feat to manage with conviction.

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #6 on: 31/03/2006 01:25:10 »
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I know very little about him, but have long been aware of his skillfull blending of science and religion - a difficult feat to manage with conviction.



The J Hoover's Witnesses seem to manage it. There was actually 1 called on me once and I had a really nice chat with her. I think she was surprised that I knew my Bible pretty well and was putting forward good, reasoned arguments against her rather than just telling her to p*ss off & slamming the door in her face. I even invited her back (And before anyone says it, no she wasn't a hot chick!).

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #7 on: 24/04/2006 20:55:20 »
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(And before anyone says it, no she wasn't a hot chick!).




Yea and what does  that prove?  ............

you fancy anything that moves.    
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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #8 on: 25/04/2006 16:43:48 »
???
Is it more likely a propensity for actaul rodent beavers than any similarly named but non-Rodentia mammalian?
 



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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #9 on: 27/04/2006 23:04:22 »
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???
Is it more likely a propensity for actaul rodent beavers than any similarly named but non-Rodentia mammalian?
 



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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #10 on: 27/04/2006 23:58:33 »

Salutations and Felicitations

Welcome back, DoctorBeave. Where ya been???? Visiting?


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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #11 on: 17/05/2006 06:25:48 »
Jimbob - I've been busy moving house so not had much time spare.

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #12 on: 18/05/2006 02:23:47 »
I hope you are well settled as you were missed. You also need to re-establish you primacy. Hadrian seemes to have taken up a little slack. Fight for it fellows!

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #13 on: 26/05/2006 07:25:50 »
We must allow the lower classes to have their fun

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Re: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
« Reply #14 on: 06/08/2006 10:17:40 »
Just coming back to Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.
I was a pupil in a catholic school in the 1960's (not a Jesuit school, mind) and Teilhard de Chardin was quite popular among those teachers who did not just stick to their textbooks.  Remember it was the the age of the Second Vatican Council, and Teilhard de Chardin was no longer considered dangerous.  Remember it was also the age of the race in space, for having the first man on the moon (and safely back again).
So when we heard of Teilhard's theory about man as a step in the evolution towards a "Point Omega", it fitted nicely with the fact that we saw how man learned to live and work in a hostile environment, and to go beyond the limits of his own planet.
I was reminded of that a couple of years ago with the discussions about "Intelligent Design".  Some of its adeps seem to see man either as the ultimate stage in evolution or as an essential stage in the evolution toward some "Point Omega".  
But then "Intelligent Designer" has taken irresponsible risks by not fitting man with better equipment to fight potentially hostile primitive organisms like e.g. the bird flu virus i
If you can read Teilhard de Chardin in French, you'll find it very well written for a page or two.  But is you have to chew through a complete chapter or complete paper, you'll find it hard to digest, wether in French or in translation !
 

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