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What factors affect accents?
« on: 08/05/2011 23:01:02 »
Pinchas Goldberg  asked the Naked Scientists:
   
Hi Chris
 
What are the factors that affect the accents that people coming from certain places have? I understand that if I spend time with people with an English accent, I'll start talking like that, and the same with people with an American accent etc etc. My question is: Why do English people speak the way they do, and why do Americans speak the way they do? Has it got something to do with the place? If a person would grow up with no-one around, what accent would he speak with?
 
Thank you again for such interesting shows.
 
I look forward to hearing from you.
 
From Johannesburg
 
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Pinchas Goldberg

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« Reply #1 on: 09/05/2011 05:23:26 »
This is an easy one.

English people don't know how to speak.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 09/05/2011 10:20:17 »
This is an easy one.

English people don't know how to speak.

And the Scots don't know when to keep quiet.
 

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« Reply #3 on: 09/05/2011 10:31:17 »
Pinchas

On a more serious note than the cross border rivalry above; I am pretty sure we parrot those around us and those we hear speaking.  Anecdotally, those who learnt to speak English growing up in India in the 50-90s tended to have very refined RP pronunciation due to the ease with which any learner could listen to the BBC World Service and other examples of RP English-English. Conversely those learning English now in India tend to have a trans-Atlantic twang with both English-English and American-English contributing, due to the spread of American media and much of the teaching material being AV created in USA.   Again - without being able to give any references I have heard it said that the intonations and accents (including that annoying false interrogative?)of young English children was noticeably changed by the huge amount of Australian Soaps that we got obsessed with. 
 

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« Reply #4 on: 09/05/2011 14:52:27 »
... if I spend time with people with an English accent, I'll start talking like that

that's mirroring ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_%28psychology%29


... I have heard it said that the intonations and accents (including that annoying false interrogative?)of young English children was noticeably changed by the huge amount of Australian Soaps

It's the Californian surfer dudes who are originally to blame for that, man ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rising_terminal

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« Reply #5 on: 09/05/2011 18:52:30 »
with time & practice, the mouth muscles develop certain habits. What is interesting is that across various languages certain sounds persist  such as mom & mama, no & nein etc.?
 

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« Reply #6 on: 10/05/2011 01:43:37 »
What is interesting is that across various languages certain sounds persist  such as mom & mama, no & nein etc.?

common root ...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages#Classification
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« Reply #7 on: 12/05/2011 14:22:04 »
What is interesting is that across various languages certain sounds persist  such as mom & mama, no & nein etc.?
looks harder than driving thru Boston!
Phonetically, the "m" sound is soothing as per mama , mom, amen om...?

common root ...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages#Classification
 

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