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Offline Heikki Rinnemaa

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« on: 29/07/2011 11:33:36 »
 :)

We thought that colors is part of light,,wave--etc, something frequence,,.
This theory born 18-centuryes, after wave-theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color#Spectral_colors

This theory means that color itself is only part of light,,and only wave-vibration,,not matter itself.

My theory is,,what i thought;
- colors are part of matter (matter object etc.)
- light is something matter which fly to this object and then together light+object matter fly to our eyes,,

Hmm,,how this can wrote better what i mean,,must draw something,,,

Example,,computer monitor,,what you see,,what comes to eyes from monitor,,
lightmatter+colormatter together,,,that is the monitor image,,,

Paint on the wall,,
when it get old it loose colors,,means that it loose colors matter,,

Atom-theory cannot explain this color-thing,,but main is that my opinion is that colors are always part of object or paint-matter, tree, etc, and light is some kind matter which allow to take this color-particles to with it and then image fly,,light-particle+color-particle=is full image,,

Theory this only because is unpossible to see those so small matter-particles, light is see-through-matter, like air, glass, etc. Color-particles are also.

Hmm,theory,,,,?


 

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« Reply #1 on: 29/07/2011 20:14:22 »
Most colors, paints, dyes, and etc that you see are not single atoms, but rather are very complex molecules that absorb energy.  In fact, what a paint does is that it absorbs some light frequencies, and reflects others.

This ability to absorb certain light energy, along with absorbing ultraviolet light leads to degradation of of the paint.  What you see is not the light that is absorbed, but rather the light that is reflected.

Your eyes, however, are not being pelted with the molecules. 

What about those of us who wear glasses over our eyes?

What about focusing colored light through a clear glass lens?  Or looking out through a window?

 

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« Reply #2 on: 30/07/2011 05:16:52 »
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Made image what i mean.

 

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« Reply #3 on: 30/07/2011 05:26:12 »
Other image.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 30/07/2011 15:41:26 »
Paint on the wall loses its colour because it is degraded by light and air into different chemicals. You can check that by chemical analysis.
 

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« Reply #5 on: 31/07/2011 07:31:09 »
Paint on the wall loses its colour because it is degraded by light and air into different chemicals. You can check that by chemical analysis.


Light+air+paint chemicals= whole "chemical analysis" process.

Bored,,do you know what kind is that chemical process?

- or do you know how can wrote by using atom-theory explanation?

I cannot check that,,:)

 

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« Reply #6 on: 31/07/2011 07:31:47 »
Image.
 

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« Reply #7 on: 31/07/2011 11:12:45 »
The simplest case is the degradation of "white lead" paints. They react with sulphur compounds in the air to make lead sulphide, which is black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_lead

Your diagram doesn't say anything. The molecule pictured in the middle is caffeine which is white.
The process of destruction of chemicals by light is well known
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photodissociation
And so is the process of destruction by reaction with air in the presence of light.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photooxidation#Effects_of_dyes.2Fpigments

Do you realise that your ideas don't help explain anything?


 

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« Reply #8 on: 01/08/2011 11:05:16 »
Thanks Bored.

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Do you realise that your ideas don't help explain anything?

:)

Yes,,new path dont help anything,,it is only how i say,,exploration travell to unkown,,


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Your diagram doesn't say anything. The molecule pictured in the middle is caffeine which is white.

- That molecyle was only hmm,,example,,but that molecyle place,, molecyle where is light also in that mocecyle.


What kind is the molecyle of light/photon?,,, wave-vibration-frequence nm., atom-part, electron,,,, or what?

If light is not molecyle,,and not atom,, and not atom part,,,what is it, matter-particle which dont react atom,,but molecyle,,,if only wave,,then how nothing can make wave--?

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« Reply #9 on: 01/08/2011 19:15:41 »
Have you considered "Red Shift".

The idea is that light at great distances will appear redder than expected.  This happens more or less uniformly over the entire spectrum, so it is not just certain colors that shift, but all colors that experience a shift towards the red end of the spectrum.  Your theory would have to explain how that is possible.
 

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« Reply #10 on: 02/08/2011 08:08:34 »
Have you considered "Red Shift".

The idea is that light at great distances will appear redder than expected.  This happens more or less uniformly over the entire spectrum, so it is not just certain colors that shift, but all colors that experience a shift towards the red end of the spectrum.  Your theory would have to explain how that is possible.

Is it possible?

How wave goes forward?

Is it so that when wave travell that length what it travell,, it keep same wave-length all that travell-length?
Is wave-length same all that travell-distance?
- speed also

And if light is not wave,,only photon-particle,,etc,,then how it sit that theory?

Hmm,,must think few months,, hmm, or years,,,that issue. :)

 

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« Reply #11 on: 05/08/2011 12:52:52 »
I think this red shift thing,,basic is that theory Dopplerr-efect and thought that wave travell all that long travelling-length without any changes,,but my thought is that when wave move-travell,,,then speed, amplitude, and wave length dont be the same, it must change. Therefore i think that thought that so called red-shift is wrong. That color-change information dont tell us what happend that object who send that information,,measuring that so called wave-frequence we only see that measuring point.
 

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« Reply #12 on: 15/08/2011 08:37:54 »
One of the aspects of red-shift is that different elements create a different spectrum of colors. 

So, for example, Iron will create a very specific pattern of colors, and it is different from that of all other elements.  So, an astronomer can look for the pattern of light created by iron. 

With red shift, they can still find Iron, but it is in the wrong place, i.e.  redder than would have otherwise been expected. 
 

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