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Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« on: 26/04/2006 19:22:06 »


Dearest Lovely Science Bods,

This is question 37 of 756 ‘Which came first ‘orientated posers !



Which came first the colour Orange or the fruit ?...and why is an Orange called an Orange and not a Lemon called a Yellow ?

Your mouth-watering answers of juice orientated joy would be moist welcome !!



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Re: Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« Reply #1 on: 26/04/2006 21:24:55 »
As I remember the lemon is not an honest-to-god species of plant, but a hybrid developed recently.

The orange has a diferent history, there being legit varieties of several wild species.

According to the heavy two volume, version of the Oxford Unabriged Dictionary of the English Language on my bookshef, the work comes from originally from Sanscrit, via Arabic, then French, as the town of Orange influenced the pronunciation of the Arabic n'naranj replacing the second "a" with an "o".

There is a  rumor around is that orange is the only word in the English language that cannot be rhymed.


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Re: Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« Reply #2 on: 26/04/2006 23:03:48 »
quote:
Originally posted by JimBob
Orange influenced the pronunciation of the Arabic n'naranj replacing the second "a" with an "o".




This would be consistent with the Hungarian narancs.

quote:
Originally posted by neilep
why is an Orange called an Orange and not a Lemon called a Yellow ?



There are lots of other colours named after something of a similar colour.

Gold and silver are both metals and colours.   Less commonly, rust is a colour, as is ivory.

I suspect it is partly dependent upon how common a colour is.  There are so many things that are green that it would seem pointless calling the colour after any one of them.  Yellow is still more common than orange (one would think of buttercups before a lemon).



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Re: Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« Reply #3 on: 27/04/2006 00:42:34 »
I would actually think of a lemon before buttercups but am very grapefruit-ful (sorry) to both of you for these answers.

....and Jim...there are plenty of words that rhyme with orange....there's plorange, splorange, constantinoplorange...the list is endless !!..sheesh !!..these amateurs !!!

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Re: Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« Reply #4 on: 27/04/2006 00:59:43 »
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Originally posted by neilep



Dearest Lovely Science Bods,

This is question 37 of 756 ‘Which came first ‘orientated posers !



Which came first the colour Orange or the fruit ?...and why is an Orange called an Orange and not a Lemon called a Yellow ?

Your mouth-watering answers of juice orientated joy would be moist welcome !!



Men are the same as women, just inside out !

Silly man, think about it.If an orange came before the colour orange then it wouldn't be called an orange would it, It would be called that round thing that resembles the skin texture of some woman's arses.

A cellulite or a bum fruit :)



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Re: Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« Reply #5 on: 27/04/2006 01:12:13 »
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Silly man, think about it.If an orange came before the colour orange then it wouldn't be called an orange would it, It would be called that round thing that resembles the skin texture of some woman's arses.

A cellulite or a bum fruit :)



Michael



Very nice, Michael. Cudos!


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Re: Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« Reply #6 on: 27/04/2006 01:30:20 »
...hang on hang on..and yes KUDOS to Michael...hmmmmm *ponders...taps fingers on desk....hmmmm...grabs an orange for inspiration and holds it to forehead*

Ok Ok....but I've been away...I need to gently get back into the swing of things......and besides...it makes for a pleasant topic title !!...

..besides..PEACHES are Bum Fruits !!

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Re: Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« Reply #7 on: 28/04/2006 07:34:29 »
well, this is really a more philosophical question...

You can not have Orange(the color) substance, pure orange(the color),  it is simply an atomic property which things possess. WE then percieve the effect this atomic property has onlight beams and call this orange. This is now similar to the tree falls in a forest qith no one around to hear it question.
our observation of the color orange is what makes it exist, if it we didnt observe it it would simply be a light beam with a certain frequency.
 

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Re: Which came first ?..the orange or the colour ?
« Reply #8 on: 28/04/2006 15:42:48 »
Now that is deep and a very cool answer.

You're so right. How can we know anything is ever true when we are not around to observe it or even leave something left to record it if the very ' act ' of observing effects the outcome ? This is the same as some quantum rules isn't it ?...one can not un-observe something and yet understand it eh ?

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