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Re: How Can A Whale Be Found 800 Metres Ashore ???
« Reply #1 on: 30/09/2011 01:46:55 »
Could an owl have dropped it ?
 

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Re: How Can A Whale Be Found 800 Metres Ashore ???
« Reply #2 on: 30/09/2011 05:47:54 »
These photos appear to be taken from a Yahoo article:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/beached-whale-found-in-yorkshire-field.html

Other readers have astutely noted that the title doesn't match the text of the article:

Quote from: TITLE
Beached whale found 800 meters ashore in Yorkshire
Quote from: Article Text
“It is sad. It was in shallow water of about 4ft to 5.25ft, making contact with the bottom,” said Andy Gibson, Yorkshire Wildlife Trust. “This was about 800m offshore. When it gets in that situation it rolls onto its side and it can cover its blowhole.”

So, the "experts" seem more interested about what was happening 800m OFFSHORE, rather than what was happening in the middle of the field. 

There seems to be no bewilderment in the text of the article about why the whale is in the middle of a field, indicating that it was intentionally transported there to either be buried, dissected, butchered, or picked up by renderers. 
 

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Re: How Can A Whale Be Found 800 Metres Ashore ???
« Reply #3 on: 30/09/2011 06:45:18 »
Whale oil be damned!

(Sorry, it's no laughing matter.)

They better get it moved pronto, or there's going to be a whale of a smell down in Dingley Dell.

(Sorry - that really was quite inappropriate.)
 

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How Can A Whale Be Found 800 Metres Ashore ???
« Reply #4 on: 30/09/2011 10:17:15 »
These photos appear to be taken from a Yahoo article:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/beached-whale-found-in-yorkshire-field.html

Other readers have astutely noted that the title doesn't match the text of the article:

Quote from: TITLE
Beached whale found 800 meters ashore in Yorkshire
Quote from: Article Text
“It is sad. It was in shallow water of about 4ft to 5.25ft, making contact with the bottom,” said Andy Gibson, Yorkshire Wildlife Trust. “This was about 800m offshore. When it gets in that situation it rolls onto its side and it can cover its blowhole.”

So, the "experts" seem more interested about what was happening 800m OFFSHORE, rather than what was happening in the middle of the field. 

There seems to be no bewilderment in the text of the article about why the whale is in the middle of a field, indicating that it was intentionally transported there to either be buried, dissected, butchered, or picked up by renderers. 

Thanks CliffordK.


My Blue text was a hyperlink but I've corrected my oversight to make it obvious now.

Surely to move such a thing would be a 'whale' of an undertaking and there would be obvious scaring of the immediate locale but none of this is mentioned. It's as if it was picked up and dropped there !
 

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How Can A Whale Be Found 800 Metres Ashore ???
« Reply #5 on: 30/09/2011 19:03:04 »
Ahh, I missed the hyperlink.

How heavy is the whale?  It says 33 feet.
Based on notes on the web, I'm guessing on the order of 5 to 10 tons.

It would be big...  But, perhaps it was found rolling around the surf and someone decided to move it inland with a helicopter for analysis and disposal.

The Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane has a payload of 20,000 lbs and should be able to handle it.

The Boeing CH-47 Chinook has a payload of 28,000 lbs.

The Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion has a payload of 32,000 lbs, and should also be able to handle it.

The Russian MIL Mi-26 Helicopter has a capacity of about 44,000 lbs, and should be able to carry a couple of the whales at a time.

The Russian Mil MI-V12 Helicopter has a capacity of 88,636 lbs, and should be able to move an adult grey whale.  Unfortunately, only 2 of the helicopters were made, and I don't believe either is functioning at this time.

Trucks, Cranes, Cats, and Winches might also work to move it, but undoubtedly would tear up the animal getting it to a place for analysis, and the land based vehicles might have problems on the beach.

It should have been easy enough to tow out to sea.  Are there any facilities anymore that specialize in whale carcases?
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How Can A Whale Be Found 800 Metres Ashore ???
« Reply #6 on: 30/09/2011 19:13:51 »
Ahh, I missed the hyperlink.

How heavy is the whale?  It says 33 feet.
Based on notes on the web, I'm guessing on the order of 5 to 10 tons.

It would be big...  But, perhaps it was found rolling around the surf and someone decided to move it inland with a helicopter for analysis and disposal.

The Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane has a payload of 20,000 lbs and should be able to handle it.

The Boeing CH-47 Chinook has a payload of 28,000 lbs.

The Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion has a payload of 32,000 lbs, and should also be able to handle it.

Trucks, Cranes, Cats, and Winches might also work to move it, but undoubtedly would tear up the animal getting it to a place for analysis, and the land based vehicles might have problems on the beach.

It should have been easy enough to tow out to sea.  Are there any facilities anymore that specialize in whale carcases?

Have ewe ever seen these incredible episodes ?

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/inside-natures-giants/4od#3072422


Thanks for all the chopper info......very nice helicopters !
« Last Edit: 30/09/2011 19:15:29 by neilep »
 

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Re: How Can A Whale Be Found 800 Metres Ashore ???
« Reply #7 on: 14/02/2012 21:55:14 »
so, i checked around and it seems as if the text does match. The whale was not moved, the field is where it was found. They say they were baffled at the beginning of the article but then move on as if there is some sort of logical explanation for it. huffington has a little more info.... newbielink:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/beached-whale-yorkshire_n_995939.html [nonactive]
 

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Re: How Can A Whale Be Found 800 Metres Ashore ???
« Reply #8 on: 14/02/2012 23:31:12 »
I'm seeing notes that the "field" was actually a salt marsh, and that it was beached during an abnormally high tide.

I found some videos on this website:
http://wn.com/Sei_whale_at_Skeffling

The third video down shows the whale at high tide.

And, the last film shows how people from my home state, Oregon deal with dead beached whales...  Just in case the Brits need a few suggestions.

« Last Edit: 14/02/2012 23:33:56 by CliffordK »
 

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