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Offline ScientificSorcerer

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My Phoenix theory states that the big bang was not the beginning of the universe it also explains what happened before the big bang. It's actually quite simple to understand and has very little correlation with things like string theory.

from now scientists can trace back the events of the universe to a single point known as the singularity, from this point all of the universes matter imploded in the big bang.

from this point the universe was reborn like a Phoenix reborn from its ashes.
if you didn't know the universe is getting more and more dense, as in the element, hydrogen is clumping together to form heavy atoms in every star, and has been doing so sense the big bang if you trace the universes events forward instead of backwards you will find that eventually all of the hydrogen in the universe will clump together into heavy atoms and there will be no more normal suns, the universe will grow cold and black-holes will become more common. With no suns, heat will become almost nonexistent and something remarkable will happen, all of the atoms will go into a state known as a "Boise-Einstine condensate" in which all atoms are in the "ground state" when the nuclei of atoms can clump together in a "super atom"
which if containing a lot of matter will have intense gravity that will suck in more and more matter forming a super black-hole that will only get more and more of the universe caught in it. eventually it will become so intense that the very fabric of space will get pulled in. eventually there will be nothing left to suck in to it except itself when it does this it will implode on itself creating a new big bang.

the super black hole is the singularity of the big bang and is only about the size of a tiny pee or a grain of sand because the nuclei of an atom is very very very small.
the sum of all of the universes nuclei clumped together into a super atom would actually take up a very small space.  The "super atom" is the singularity and the big bang is its implosion. the resulting bang is so big that it converts all of the matter in the universe into energy that energy collides together to make matter again rather electrons and positrons, protons neutrons come later.

as you can see this theory is completely observable and does not include Multidimensional nonsense or strings. It states that the universe goes through a cycle of expansion and contraction to a single point then expands again. this means that the big bang is not the beginning and there is no end that dose not lead to another big bang. so the universe my have been around forever or is at-least far older then the big bang. It even explains the singularity! The idea is simple perhaps too simple and that's why I need opinions particularly by mathematicians and physic experts to see if it works or not. plus I would think that this idea has been thought up before but I cant find anything on that, if someone could give me the name of a similar theory I would be grateful.

If you know that I have made an error please inform me upon it.
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Re: Phoenix theory, what happened before the big bang.
« Reply #1 on: 25/10/2014 07:23:30 »
Sounds like big crunch...  Cool really, I like that you call it phoenix theory; but, not to be a stickler

(completely observable and does not include Multidimensional nonsense or strings. It states that the universe goes through a cycle of expansion and contraction to a single point)

anything not taking up space is going to land multidimensional, unless your theory allows for the fabric of space to still exist, and even then space with all the matter gone, if for only one point on a time line even (implode) is pretty multidimensional, honestly. 

(The "super atom" is the singularity and the big bang is its implosion)

It sounds as though you are calling space a dimension...  Is this so?  I got credit for the Jesus T.O.E. on ilovephilosophy.com for doing that.  I wonder what Sergeant Hulka has to say?  Oh yeah he already said it...

It's the super atom that I was interested in though and I will be citing you in a paper regarding the existence of such a thing.

Please welcome my thanks so I can thank your welcome... 

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Re: Phoenix theory, what happened before the big bang.
« Reply #2 on: 25/10/2014 08:42:43 »
Quote from: ScientificSorcerer
My Phoenix theory states that the big bang was not the beginning of the universe it also explains what happened before the big bang. It's actually quite simple to understand and has very little correlation with things like string theory.
You're competing with two other theories. One is called the Pre-Big Bang Theory

1) See - String Theory and Pre-big bang Cosmology\ by M. Gasperini, G. Veneziano

2) http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html by Stephen Hawking

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from now scientists can trace back the events of the universe to a single point known as the singularity, ...
The Big Bang theory only goes back so far. If there were an instant, at a "big bang," when our universe started expanding, it is not in the cosmology as now accepted, because no one has thought of a way to adduce objective physical evidence that such an event really happened. from Principles of Physical Cosmology[/i] by P.J.E. Peebles, Princeton University Press, (1976), page 6.
 

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Re: Phoenix theory, what happened before the big bang.
« Reply #3 on: 25/10/2014 14:42:55 »
You have one huge problem with your theory. Over cosmic distances the density of matter will have no significant effect. I have been down this road already. You also neglect the effect of time dilation on energy. This may or may not include gravitational energy. If dilation affects the flux of gravitational energy itself your theory is dead in the water.
 

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