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Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« on: 14/07/2006 20:15:04 »
Dearest Chums,

Does anyone here actually get their washing done 'whiter than white  ?

Do ALL the stains go leaving the article as fresh as the day it was bought ?

What a load of dogs doo-dahs  eh  ? !!

We just washed a shirt that had an ink stain on it...now the washing detergent people would have you believe that theirs is the detergent to use, and that they can easily handle ink, blood, wine....what a load of crap !!.

...Would you not consider this false advertising ?

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #1 on: 14/07/2006 20:23:36 »
Dear Friend!

No, they never get whiter than white and I am crazy when whites have a stain on it...lol

No, the stains never leave the article as fresh as the day it was bought...(okay, i work on slogans, and come up with some stupid sayings too..this is really making me think..lol)

For ink my friend, use alcohol to get it out before washing it...you can try after you wash it...sometimes hairspray works too...sometimes I have ink on a clothing article and grab one of these quickly to dissolve the ink out...

Yes, it is false advertising...

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #2 on: 14/07/2006 21:50:58 »

It's not false advertising when I say big hugs and shmishes to you...mwah mwah !!

What I omitted from above was the fact that the ink stain was still there....faded but still apparent.

I will try alcohol next time ....coffee liqueur perhaps ?..hic ! ...red wine ?....hic !!..blackcurrant daiquiri ? :D..

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #3 on: 14/07/2006 23:03:59 »
LOL  You are so funny.  Mwah back at you and big shmishes!!  I meant rubbing alcohol...lol  you are so swilly...oops, hic cup!  LOL  ewe r my bwestest fwiend two...opps, i amm seeing duble now

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #4 on: 14/07/2006 23:25:37 »
I put two orange dusters in a white wash once, you know the sort of thing an idiot wouldnt even do.

After the wash finished and everything had turned a  lovely colour of yuk, it suddenly dawned on me what i had done so i removed the dusters and closed the door. Wifey came along saw the colour of her once whiter than white whites and nearly hit the ceiling. I tried to act all innocent like but women aint stupid and she knew that it was my fault,she even found the dusters behind the washing machine.

Still something good did come out of it , i no longer get asked to do the laundry, or the cooking and the ironing, i'm just a general hazard around the house.

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #5 on: 14/07/2006 23:38:00 »
oops....lol how funny Michael...so you set this up so you would no longer be asked to do domestic duties again...lol

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« Reply #6 on: 14/07/2006 23:43:19 »
Michael...LOL...what a fantastic recipe...

Two orange dusters + one white wash = no more cooking, cleaning and ironing !!...excellent...thanks chum

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #7 on: 14/07/2006 23:45:00 »
Its funny you say that because everyone else says the same thing. :)

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« Reply #8 on: 14/07/2006 23:46:25 »
hmmmm, yes, you did it!  Guilty as charged!  lol

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #9 on: 15/07/2006 01:21:42 »
Its so unfair all i get to do is play on the pc all day, life can be so boring.:)



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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #10 on: 15/07/2006 02:39:56 »
Uh huh!  I thought so...what a terrible way to be treated as such.

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #11 on: 15/07/2006 18:17:05 »
the roundabout solution is: dont have white clothes.
 

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #12 on: 15/07/2006 19:11:52 »
Good solution, but white feels so much cooler in this wonderful summer heat!

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« Reply #13 on: 15/07/2006 20:58:07 »
as a great fan of white indeed im often top to bottom in pure white i would say the trick is not to spill stuff  but if you have i find a good principle is to buy good cotton then a certain trust in pink brand and a good bleach wash works wonders

J.B.S Haldane on the perforated eardrums which were a consequence of his pressure experiments "the drum generally heals up; and if a hole remains in it, although one is somewhat deaf, one can blow tobacco smoke out of  the ear in question, which is a social accomplishment".
 

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #14 on: 15/07/2006 21:47:51 »
I practices Karate once or twice a week and as you know we use white suits. I have found that if you hang it out on every sunny day you can it gets and stays whiter longer. One word of warning donít trust anyone else to take it in. Practicing in damp Karate suit can chafe in places you can't mentioning this place

What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
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« Reply #15 on: 16/07/2006 01:36:48 »
Boy is that the truth. I have hung my laundry for years and they always smelled so good, But they get so stiff and yes if they are damp, HOOO, LOOK out! Not pleasant to wear!.....Karen
 

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« Reply #16 on: 16/07/2006 12:12:08 »
I LIKE THE SMELL OF HUNG LAUNDRY ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS A BIT OF WIND, BUT PREFER THE FEEL AND SOFTNESS OF THE DRYER. IT IS ALSO CONVIENIENT AND FASTER.
 

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« Reply #17 on: 16/07/2006 12:18:55 »
NEIL, LORETTA'S RIGHT, USE THE ALCHHOL BEFORE YOU WASH IT. THEN SOMETIMES HAIR SPRAY BEFORE YOU WASH IT ALSO. NOT BOTH. AND IF YOU ALREADY WASHED IT AND DRIED IT IN THE DRYER AFTERWARDS, YOU HAVE PROBABLY SET THE STAIN. NO. 1 TIP: NEVER DRY GARMENT WITH STAIN IN DRYER IF STAIN DID NOT COME ALL THE WAY OUT, WAIT AND DO NEXT SPOTTING REMOVAL SPRAY OR TIP. JUST DON'T PUT IT IN THE DRYER AS THIS SETS STAINS PERMANANTLY!.....KAREN
 

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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #18 on: 16/07/2006 16:58:06 »
I also love the freshness of my clothes hung outside...I agree with you Karen about them being stiff...but sheets and pillow cases are wonderful outside!  

Neil, you could always get some rit dye and dye it back to pure white again...and then begin the process all over again...

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« Reply #19 on: 16/07/2006 19:10:44 »
OK..sooooper...I'll advise wifey to use alcohol before she does the washing !!..I hope she can work the thing when she's hammered under the table !! :D





seriously though, thank you all for your advice..

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« Reply #20 on: 17/07/2006 05:50:45 »
Your welcome Sir Neil!.......Hugs to you too...Karen
 

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« Reply #21 on: 17/07/2006 15:18:54 »
quote:
Originally posted by neilep

Dearest Chums,

Does anyone here actually get their washing done 'whiter than white  ?

...Would you not consider this false advertising ?




The "whiter than white" claim is actually true, not false advertising.
Washing powder contains chemicals which fluoresce: they absorb invisible ultraviolet light and emit this energy as visible light.
So a white cloth impregnated with fluorescent chemicals would appear whiter than a unimpregnated cloth if both were viewed in light which included ultraviolet light:-

" In fluorescence, the energy from an external source of light is absorbed and almost immediately reŽmitted. Because energy must be conserved, the wavelength that comes out is longer (=redder, =less energy) than what went in. This is how laundry detergents can get things "whiter than white": by absorbing non-visible UV light and fluorescing in the visible spectrum."
http://www.lifesci.ucsb.edu/~biolum/myth.html
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« Reply #22 on: 17/07/2006 21:36:20 »
If you claim was 'brighter than white', then I would agree with you, but the claim is 'whiter than white', so I cannot.

In any event, I understand that the florescence is slightly in the blue end of the spectrum (in any event, fluorescence is not normally spread across the visible spectrum, and so can never be a truly white light).

To suggest that brighter equates to whiter would be to imply that a high power neon light is whiter than a white tee shirt that merely passively reflects light.



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« Reply #23 on: 17/07/2006 23:39:44 »
THANK YOU ROBERT.

I realise they use the fluorescent trick...I think it's a little cheat to give the impression that the article is brighter than it really is....but I suppose my main gripe is not really about the whiteness,......... it's the inability of these so called fantastic detergents to get stains out !!...they are all crap !!

Even our washing machine thinks so:

Neils Washing Machine ........... " Detergents are all crap "

There you go...straight from the horses...errhmm...washing machines mouth !!!


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Re: Whites..whiter than white !!..Yeah Right !!
« Reply #24 on: 18/07/2006 03:55:08 »
Funny Neil, mine says it too...

Lo's Washing Machine......."Detergents are all crap"

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