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« on: 31/07/2006 16:53:39 »
I JUST NEED TO NO WHY IS EVERYONE CHEATING ON THEAR PARTNERS.NO ONE IS HONEST


 

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« Reply #1 on: 31/07/2006 17:17:10 »
not everyone is.

im honest. if i cheat on you, i let you know. : )
 

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« Reply #2 on: 31/07/2006 17:49:34 »
Hmmm, wow!  Why do you "accuse" us who believe in not cheating as cheaters...okay, I have no partner now...but did not cheat...and when you say cheat...in what reference are you making the assumptive one?  There are many ways to cheat and not just sexually...

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« Reply #3 on: 31/07/2006 18:12:55 »
I am not saying that women don't cheat, as figures are much higher now than before.  A recent survey in th U.K. show that men cheat more often if the opportunity arose and especially if they thought they couldn't be found out.


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« Reply #4 on: 31/07/2006 18:58:33 »
I don't have a partner to cheat on so that counts me out.



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Re: MAN
« Reply #5 on: 31/07/2006 19:40:52 »
quote:
Originally posted by TRUE

I JUST NEED TO NO WHY IS EVERYONE CHEATING ON THEAR PARTNERS.NO ONE IS HONEST

[:0]How could she ,I'll kill her.     :)

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« Reply #6 on: 31/07/2006 21:25:41 »
Its okay Michael....just forgive her and make up!

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Re: MAN
« Reply #7 on: 01/08/2006 03:58:08 »
Yes mummy :)

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Re: MAN
« Reply #8 on: 01/08/2006 04:37:20 »
Good boy Michael!  There is something about you Michael's...okay, maybe I am a bit biased here!  hehe

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« Reply #9 on: 01/08/2006 10:58:22 »
quote:
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I JUST NEED TO NO WHY IS EVERYONE CHEATING ON THEAR PARTNERS.NO ONE IS HONEST



" according to anthropologist Helen Fisher, in an interview with ABC News' "Good Morning America," Fisher said human beings are among 3 percent of the world's 4,000 species of mammals pre-programmed for monogamy.

"First of all, 75 percent of men do not cheat, and 85 percent of women do not cheat," said Fisher. "The brain is built for pair bonding."  "
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/story?id=970035&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

« Last Edit: 01/08/2006 10:59:12 by ROBERT »
 

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« Reply #10 on: 01/08/2006 20:14:37 »
but not life-long monogamy, the much more observed action in humans is serial monogamy
 

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Re: MAN
« Reply #11 on: 02/08/2006 01:56:51 »
Interesting info Robert, true lil gecko!

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« Reply #12 on: 02/08/2006 10:30:20 »
Monogamy, isn't that a type of tropical hardwood :).
 

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« Reply #13 on: 02/08/2006 13:50:24 »



   LOL


Love you lots

Helena  xxx


 

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« Reply #14 on: 02/08/2006 18:56:31 »
quote:
Originally posted by ROBERT

Monogamy, isn't that a type of tropical hardwood :).



That probably depends on the randiness of the wood.

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« Reply #15 on: 13/08/2006 13:48:58 »
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I JUST NEED TO NO WHY IS EVERYONE CHEATING ON THEAR PARTNERS.NO ONE IS HONEST


You say this because you don't know russian women.
 

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« Reply #16 on: 13/08/2006 15:39:47 »
Hmmmmmmmmmm...Russian women !!..

..hmmmmm...in fact ALL women...hmmmmmmmmmmmm !!


I suspect TRUE has had his/hers feelings crushed by an unfaithful partner !!



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« Reply #17 on: 13/08/2006 18:45:25 »
Fact based on what????  Nationality has nothing to do with the behavior of people who want or don't want to cheat...notice the word "want" not need, choose, or have to?  There is the want factor....they want to, they will take their guilt and switch out with the partner they are with and say you don't give me enough, so "I need it"  They make a choice...which in everything we do consciously or subconsciously we make a choice "to do it" There is no "well, I have to do it"  I have heard people say, "well, he is a man" he has to do it???  No, he or she does not have to do it for whatever reason....nationality, religion, etc..you still choose it...it is not in your dna either...

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« Reply #18 on: 14/08/2006 14:32:16 »
quote:
Originally posted by moonfire

Fact based on what????  Nationality has nothing to do with the behavior of people who want or don't want to cheat...notice the word "want" not need, choose, or have to?  There is the want factor....they want to, they will take their guilt and switch out with the partner they are with and say you don't give me enough, so "I need it"  They make a choice...which in everything we do consciously or subconsciously we make a choice "to do it" There is no "well, I have to do it"  I have heard people say, "well, he is a man" he has to do it???  No, he or she does not have to do it for whatever reason....nationality, religion, etc..you still choose it...it is not in your dna either...

"Lo" Loretta


Yes, I agree with you Loretta. Every person is unique.

It's only the result of my personal experience: every ~ 10 russian women I have met, only one were correct with me. Of course it could depend on me, on situations ecc. However, It's because I have always thought that every person is different, that I have always given trust to russian women, that they always deceived me...I really did not want to accept the assertion I made about them, but, after many years, I'm forced from scientific evidence into it.
I would be Very happy to know that it was only a coincidence. Please, you russian woman reading this, show me that the reality is different.
 

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« Reply #19 on: 14/08/2006 15:48:38 »
quote:
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Yes, I agree with you Loretta. Every person is unique.

It's only the result of my personal experience: every ~ 10 russian women I have met, only one were correct with me. Of course it could depend on me, on situations ecc. However, It's because I have always thought that every person is different, that I have always given trust to russian women, that they always deceived me...I really did not want to accept the assertion I made about them, but, after many years, I'm forced from scientific evidence into it.
I would be Very happy to know that it was only a coincidence. Please, you russian woman reading this, show me that the reality is different.



In what context have you met Russian women?

Bear in mind that in all likelihood all of the Russian women you met were of a common type, in a common context.  I am sure that there are millions of Russian women whom you have never met because they are the type of women who choose not to move in the circles in which you have met your Russian women.  They may all live quietly with their families back home, and being very family oriented, they may not necessarily make themselves as visible to foreigners.

I have never myself been to Russia (would love to go some day, but never have been).  All of the Russian women I am likely to meet are tourists, or migrant workers.  Tourists may well come with their families, but migrant workers will general people who place their own wealth creation and sense of adventure above remaining within their family circle they will all have something in common that makes them different to the women who stayed at home.



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« Reply #20 on: 14/08/2006 19:56:45 »
Women are not human....women...are Women !! :)

I never met a woman I never liked !!....I have been to Moscow and in the capacity that I experienced Russian women they were lovely....and the men were nice too....would love to go back there one day.

Lifhtarrow...I too (like George) would be very interested to know in what capacity have you had contact with Russian women......in business ?...pleasure ?

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« Reply #21 on: 15/08/2006 01:40:06 »
quote:
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I JUST NEED TO NO WHY IS EVERYONE CHEATING ON THEAR PARTNERS.NO ONE IS HONEST



This brings up a perfect oppertunity for me to vent through the internet about certain things.  I have to say, me and my two good friends have just about given up. We are now finally at the conclusion that all men are the same, with the same intentions.

My friends and I have recently become quite the groupies if you will haha...following this band to their gigs and parties. Finally... finally, we thought here are the few nice men in the world. And I honestly thought that the bandmembers were so nice...i honestly thought that we were valued as their fans and friends. but i am wrong. these few people that i cared so much about, most likely dont even know who i am or what my name was. and i also find out that they have just been sleeping around. i just can't believe i actually thought there were good men to be found. the one band member, said he was single because his last girlfriend cheated on him and he wasn't ready to be in a relationship after that. and i actually believed this? that was a lie. this guy is going around sleeping with everyone. and i was blind. so blind.

It's really absurd to think how I can care about and love some people sooo much, and yet I am absolutely nothing to them.

NO ONE IS HONEST.

thats the truth. and i am left to think that love just doesn't really exist because men can be so selfish and only care about sex. and i've only explained half of it.

ok well now that i got all of that out! i feel much better haha.

ohhh
however!
please let me make it clear when i say "men" i suppose this is only in reference to certain guys. not everybody!
coincidently after all of these feelings...i have been back on the forum.
everyone on here is soo nice and grateful.
this is such a change from the people i usually interact with.
it's really opened my eyes that not all men have the same selfish intentions.

:D


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« Reply #22 on: 15/08/2006 11:08:49 »
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Lifhtarrow...I too (like George) would be very interested to know in what capacity have you had contact with Russian women......in business ?...pleasure ?


I met some russian (and Ukrainian, they are worse than russian) women in their country, contacted through internet, and some of them, (as you say, another-someone), in nights.
I know I couldn't judge russian women taking a sample of them in a night, but, believe me, many russian women are BORN to make that work in the worst way (for people like me); some of them are BORN to lie WITH THEIR SOULS and not only with their words; I'm not a stupid man, I had deep relationships with several kinds of women, from Italy and from other countries.

Now I could write a book about the average russian woman's psychology and personality, as well as other nationalities women.

I repeat, I absolutely believe that every person is unique and that judging in a generalized way, as I'm doing now,  it's always bad, and what I say doesn't prevent me to accept a real friendship or relationship with a russian woman.
But russian women made me feel so deeply bad, that I HAVE to say these things, at least because of a sense of "soul universal justice".

Believe me, it's very difficult to find an italian woman (for example) able to play with a man's feelings in that way. I have some ideas of why they can do it.

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« Reply #23 on: 15/08/2006 13:34:21 »
Lightarrow,

I am deeply sorry how your perception of Russian women has been tainted by your experiences.

Was this contact through some agency of sorts ?  I know they exist and I just wonder if you have unfortunately succumbed to some form of professional deception.
It does seem too much of coincidence from all your experiences  that they should be soiled like this  ! It's clear that your time with them has indeed hurt you terribly.

It's unfortunate that in this case communicating, with these women via the internet is the only viable way for you to conduct the commencement of a relationship,  and it seems that the women you have met have latched onto this method as a form of corruption with 'love ' as the last intent.  

You say you have some ideas as to why they do it....could you elaborate ?

Men are the same as women, just inside out !
 

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« Reply #24 on: 15/08/2006 23:09:24 »
quote:
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I met some russian (and Ukrainian, they are worse than russian) women in their country, contacted through internet, and some of them, (as you say, another-someone), in nights.
I know I couldn't judge russian women taking a sample of them in a night, but, believe me, many russian women are BORN to make that work in the worst way (for people like me); some of them are BORN to lie WITH THEIR SOULS and not only with their words; I'm not a stupid man, I had deep relationships with several kinds of women, from Italy and from other countries.

Now I could write a book about the average russian woman's psychology and personality, as well as other nationalities women.



I would very much doubt that the women you met could by any stretch of the imagination be regarded as 'average'.  If you had met Italian women in the same context, would you regard those women as average for Italian women?

I think the problem arises with the kind of women you expected to meet in such an environment (no matter what their nationality),

You said earlier that you would like to believe it was merely coincidence; from what I read into your posts (and I may be misinterpreting them), I don't think it is so much a matter of accidental coincidence as about context.

If you want to meet ordinary people, then you meet them in ordinary situations, not in contrived situations (and it certainly helps if you can speak to them in their own language, but this is ofcourse not something that is always practical).

Insofar as comparing Russian to Ukrainian, I think the simplest comparison to make is in their relative poverty (although this is a constantly changing issue), and thus the relative desperation of a few to escape that poverty.  Nonetheless, it is only a few who will be driven to such extremes as to sell themselves (whether overtly or indirectly) for a chance of a better life in the West.



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