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The Mabus Case
« on: 30/01/2014 17:07:38 »
Written on Behalf of Dennis Markuze by an old friend. Here he presents his SIDE and I think you will agree that he is right!



"I was never approached to offer me my side of the story. Here are the FACTS not the faulty information fed to you by a gang of atheists and drama producing police. Hopefully you can do an article taking my side. I am a odd character, a unique individual, who has been turned into a media monster for my strange ideas, BUT I'M RIGHT!

AFFIDAVIT OF TRUTH FOR DISMISALL OF ALL CHARGES:

THIS DOCUMENT IS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD AND THE COURT RECORD:



“CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982 PART I CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
Whereas Canada is founded upon the principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law: Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
Fundamental Freedoms
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other means of communication.
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.”



In order to be honest about the facts of the accusations against me it is necessary to state that I am a Christian and these were debates about religion and politics online with atheists and skeptics, and sometimes these got heated. The charges laid on me are based on hearsay and conjecture. I am being charged for my controversial ideas not for any offense. Words taken out of context online by strangers thousands of kilometers away have been used as a charge of harassment, to seize my property, to imprison me, to take away my rights. These are subjective charges, and the only party that has really been injured has been me! I have been fingered unfairly and I must state the facts for the public record.


On November 16, 2012, I was arrested in my own house for being on a chat room and apparently harassing Tim Farley. He tweaked and twisted my words to make them appear threatening because he knew that for me to be simply on the Internet was a crime. He reported me to the police and made fraudulent and out of context remarks on what I said. He took harmless banter and converted it into hostile hate speech. He knew my vulnerability and took advantage of it, what appears as a malevolent accusation of guilt. Overnight the police got a search warrant and raided my house, seizing property. Again, simply being on the internet was enough. No threats were made and no violent acts committed. He suffered no injury. He suffered no financial loss. He suffered no loss in credibility. But I have suffered all these things and more. I have no history of violence in my past. I have God given inalienable rights of freedom of speech and expression. The condition to not debate on forums is a direct violation of my fundamental human rights to speak This condition must be removed. I'm a writer who engages in debate with the power of words not force of arms. I debate, sometimes hotly, with skeptics and atheists to disprove their ideas. Farley doesn’t like what I have to say about him and his organization, the James Randi Foundation, an atheist group. He wants to silence my right to state my ideas on religion and politics, and he and his gang have called the police whenever they suspect I'm on the Internet. All they want to do is deprive me of my freedom so as to discredit my ideas. I am being ganged up on, bullied, and marked by atheists and skeptics, and even the media is taking their side, not once asking for my side of the story. True, some of my words may be rude or tasteless such as, “I will crush you,” or, “I will be rid of you etc.” My actual ideas center upon the utter waste of intelligence used in the ideology of atheism and the importance of peace and disarmament for the planet, and the terrible costs of war. My real words can be found here not the broken fragments they produce to use as lies to condemn me:

Please spend the time to read, watch, and hear what I have to say here:


newbielink:http://storify.com/deltoidmachine/how-we-won-the-james-randi-dollar-1-000-000-parano [nonactive]



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Re: The Mabus Case
« Reply #1 on: 30/01/2014 17:36:37 »
The other side of the story ...

Quote from: PZ Myers
I have been harassed by Dennis Markuze/David Mabus for going on 20 years, and I have an imposing collection of filters in my email to block him. At the peak of his mania, he was dunning me with 20-30 emails a day, all repetitive, all totally nuts, and he was sending death threats and other attempts to intimidate me…which were remarkably ineffective, since everything he wrote was twisted and bizarre ...
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/01/24/no-sympathy-none-at-all/

[ http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dennis_Markuze ]
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Re: The Mabus Case
« Reply #2 on: 30/01/2014 17:38:25 »
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My actual ideas center upon the utter waste of intelligence used in the ideology of atheism
Wrong. Atheism doesn't require any intelligence because unlike theism it doesn't make the seen and experidnced depend on the unseen and imagined.

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and the importance of peace and disarmament for the planet, and the terrible costs of war.
Agreed. And the sooner theists stop killing other theists for worshipping wrong idol, the quicker we will be rid of this scourge.
 

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Re: The Mabus Case
« Reply #3 on: 30/01/2014 17:46:14 »
Funny that born liar PZ only mentions Mabus in 2008

newbielink:http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/05/02/the-recent-mabus-incursion/ [nonactive]
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« Reply #4 on: 30/01/2014 18:48:12 »
Funny that born liar PZ only mentions Mabus in 2008

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/05/02/the-recent-mabus-incursion/

If your ego-search is correct then you harassed the guy for fifteen years before he named you publicly in 2008 ,
 ( I'd be reluctant to give you the "oxygen of publicity" too ).

Quote from:  PZ Myers
...  I’ve been getting these threats from Markuze since 1993 — it’s gradually grown from an occasional deranged message on usenet to part of my daily routine, where I’m dealing with hundreds of ranty messages every day from one disturbed individual in Montreal, Canada. And I’m not even his sole target: he has a hate-on for Shermer, Randi, and Dawkins, and this is all he does with his life: he sits in his bedroom in his parent’s house and sends out shrill, incoherent messages to the world, all day long.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/10

Usenet was a dial-up service, which dates the messages as well before "2008".
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Re: The Mabus Case
« Reply #5 on: 02/02/2014 01:43:08 »


WHAT'S THE HARM OF AN IDIOT?


Krelnik = Tim Farley
As you see he is “going to do my best” to get Mabus arrested. Farley says he needs more “help,” in other words, punishment. He is directly threatening his freedom by using the threat of police, full knowing the tenuous legal situation he is in. “The authorities” must get “involved” because he cannot defeat the arguments using logic but only threat and intimidation. He is stalking the entire internet to find Mabus, to expose him, to get him "fixed". This shows premeditation and that he has a clear agenda to get Mabus locked up. He is in no imminent danger i.e, “get him picked up this week,” and he is trying to do whatever he can to get him in trouble because he does not like what he has to say about the James Randi Organization, a group of atheist cyberbullies.
 

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Re: The Mabus Case
« Reply #6 on: 02/02/2014 02:37:21 »
threat and intimidation  ... stalking the entire internet ... cyberbullies

"Mabus" is the  threatening-intimidating-stalking-CyberBully …

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Written by Tim Farley   [ in 2011]
Thursday brought news from Montréal, Canada of further action in the “David Mabus” case.

Last month his spam and threats (which had accelerated on Twitter) got the attention of the press and the police where he lives in Montréal. The story of how this came about is an interesting case study in online skeptic activism which I documented in detail on my blog. It resulted in his arrest on August 16 and appearance before a judge on a total of 16 charges of making death threats
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1434-qdave-mabusq-diagnosed-and-in-treatment.html

[ the bold emphasis is mine ]

Mabus has made his views known to these prominent "athiests" repeatedly,  why bother repeating this pointless exercise thousands of times : this harassment is not going to convert them to theism.
   
As your “friend” Mabus has been engaged in this pointless campaign of harassment for many years there’s not much hope he will gain insight that his obsessive behaviour is a manifestation of mental illness, but you could try to convince him to divert his energies elsewhere into something constructive, perhaps, if he really is religious rather than just antiscience, assist his church in some way, [ although working for a church won’t get “Mabus” international notoriety ].
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Re: The Mabus Case
« Reply #7 on: 04/02/2014 03:25:28 »

DANCE!
 

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« Reply #8 on: 04/02/2014 05:17:02 »

DANCE!

Just because of the homophonic surname ? , ( at least it's not a YouTube of Depeche Mode ).
 

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« Reply #9 on: 13/02/2014 09:49:10 »
randi and his dangerous paranormal games! SCOFF!

 

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« Reply #10 on: 13/02/2014 12:58:56 »
randi and his dangerous paranormal games! SCOFF!

Don't you have April fools' day in Canada ? ...

Quote from: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_0E1XJP33E[/youtube] "About"
At the MIT Media Lab in April [1st] 2008, Hi-Tech Magician Seth Raphael (http://magicseth.com/) challenged James Randi (http://randi.org/), claiming his computer can read minds

Quote from: wikipedia.org / One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge
As an April Fool's prank on April 1, 2008, at the MIT Media Lab, Randi awarded the prize to magician Seth Raphael after participating in a test of Raphael's "psychic abilities" ...
Since the challenge was first created by Randi in 1964, about a thousand people have applied, but no one has been successful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge#History
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« Reply #11 on: 15/02/2014 20:18:14 »




Would "remote viewing" 500 years in to the future be considered "proof" of paranormal powers? SCOFF!
 

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« Reply #12 on: 16/02/2014 07:21:57 »
Would "remote viewing" 500 years in to the future be considered "proof" of paranormal powers?

Only after 500 years have passed and a specific detailed , (not vague), prediction(s) can be confirmed ...

Quote from: wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus
no Nostradamus quatrain is known to have been interpreted as predicting a specific event before it occurred, other than in vague, general terms that could equally apply to any number of other events.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus#Interpretations

Making vague statements that are generally true is definitely not proof of prognostication ,
but certain people are more likely to [incorrectly] believe that is the case ...

Quote from: wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect
Studies on the relationship between schizotypy and susceptibility to the Forer effect have shown high amounts of correlation ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect#Belief_in_the_paranormal
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« Reply #13 on: 17/02/2014 17:12:20 »


Adorno even your great genius got things sometimes WRONG!
 

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« Reply #14 on: 17/02/2014 23:46:54 »
WRITTEN ON BEHALF OF DENNIS MARKUZE BY A DEAR AND OLD FRIEND FROM A LONG LOST TIME!


1) What made you interested in JREF specifically, rather than other skeptics or debunkers active at the time?

The JREF, and especially the Amazing Meetings, acted as a training ground for producing a fresh breed of highly intelligent and aggressive atheists and skeptics, so it was natural that we had to focus our ideological attacks upon them. The Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge was used as a battering ram against so called “paranormal powers,” and it was a weapon that had to be smashed before it destroyed every last “paranormal” phenomenon in the universe.
James Randi preaches a militant and intolerant form of neo-fascism that masquerades as science and rationality. This new scientific totalitarianism is just as extreme as the religious fundamentalism it aims to eradicate, if not more so. This radical scientific intolerance aims at throwing in to the fire millennia of religious belief. Political correctness is the mask they use to destroy, annihilate, and eradicate the last vestiges of religious belief in the modern age. To destroy myth, mystery, and the religious was the open and aggressive agenda of the “new atheism,” and it was to be substituted with apparently certain scientific knowledge. Scientific control of nature would lead to the scientific control of man. This world-view reduces everything to calculable and controllable numbers or scientific symbols, and if phenomena could not be translated in to this math language, they were abandoned or destroyed. Capitalism did exactly the same thing. What was taking place in the ideological sphere was also occurring simultaneously in the economic sphere, as Marx predicted it would. Capitalism reduces everything to a $$$ sign, to an exchange value, and man finds his identity by how much money he makes living in this system. Unity is achieved by forcefully eradicating difference, the fascist method of solving problems; and science was used as the main weapon in this totalitarian assimilation. The JREF was aiming to create a barren desert wasteland that would only be populated by scientific artifacts; much like capitalism was aiming at imposing a dollar sign on everything. The JREF represents the ideological defence of the capitalist system.

People have been blind to this rapidly spreading atheist sub-culture taking place on the internet. It is highly organized, tightly knit, and militant against so-called "pseudoscience." They have the audacity to claim that God does not exist and get away with it unchallenged.  No one is standing up against this threat to the Absolute.
Our new science overlords are to dictate to us what is real and what isn’t, and we must obey or face serious consequences. They are smarter than the rest of us and know what is good for us. They are a little too clever for themselves, and have the arrogance to mock the beliefs of the common man. A real democracy is tolerant of all views, it is inclusive and tolerant. Their scientific totalitarianism was the very real and concrete negation of democracy.
newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation [nonactive]
I had to do whatever was in my ever was in my power to combat what I saw as a vicious and deceptive ideology, namely, atheism.
2)  How have you gone about beating the million dollar challenge? Do you have an experiment or demonstration to show people? Can you describe it?

For over 40 years a man by the name of James Randi, founder of the James Randi Educational foundation (JREF), has challenged anyone to provide proof of the paranormal and that he would pay them $1,000,000 if they could. Hundreds have tried and all have failed the test.

newbielink:http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html [nonactive]

WE ACCEPTED THE CHALLENGE AND WE’RE GOING TO USE THE INTERNET AND COMPUTERS FOR OUR MASS DEMONSTRATION OF PARANORMAL POWERS.

How we won the paranormal challenge can be found here:

newbielink:http://storify.com/deltoidmachine/how-we-won-the-james-randi-dollar-1-000-000-parano [nonactive]

So by using science and technology we are going to prove the existence of the paranormal. But this is not a lab experiment but takes place under real-life conditions.

James Randi published a hateful and defaming book about Nostradamus called “The Mask of Nostradamus.” Basically Randi sets out to prove that Nostradamus was a fraud and that his writings are so vague and unspecific that they can be made to mean almost anything.

But we set out by using a few quatrains to disprove this vicious book of Randi’s. Nostradamus predicting the future with pin-point accuracy 500 years in advance would obviously constitute itself as “paranormal powers.” The only reception I received from the JREF when I presented this claim was from James Randi himself when he told me that a “child must of hijacked my computer.” His contempt has no limits. Apart from that, the JREF have done everything in their power to discredit me, to make me appear as a drug-addicted psychopath who spews out hate and death-threats at an incessant rate. This is the character assassination the JREF love to engage in because they can get away with it under the guise of political correctness. It is true I have experimented with drugs, but I have been 99% totally clean and sober for the last 7 years.
The JREF could never accept that Nostradamus was a genuine prophet because any proof of the paranormal would not only put an end to the million dollar paranormal challenge but would also mark the end of the JREF organization, because its entire credibility and message rests upon the challenge. Paying the money would bankrupt the organization, so they must do whatever it takes to survive, even if that means twisting and distorting the truth to save themselves. If they could discredit me then they could discredit my message, and this being the tactics of the JREF and its fellows.


3) You’re famous for talking about Nostradamus in your messages. When did you first learn about Nostradamus and his predictions, and what do you find so fascinating about them?

This is an interesting question. I remember pulling from the library while I was high school an edition of the Prophecies. Somehow I knew that Depeche Mode was going to be referenced inside. I just knew it. I told one my friends at the time what I thought and he said I was crazy. But we were sitting outside smoking some hash in the yard and I was flipping through the pages until we hit Century VIII, Quatrain 66 which says, “When the letters D.M. are found …” He looked at me in amazement and said, “You’re right!”

Nostradamus is for those who love the mysterious and the fantastic, for those who are bored with mundane everyday existence. The legends that surround his name are numerous. I think I contributed in preserving his legacy and name for a long time to come.



4) What are your religious and political beliefs, and when did they emerge?
My religious and political views are fusion of Marxism, Freudianism, and Christianity, a seemingly impossible combination. However, there is a happy marriage between them because they all share in the belief and practice of the liberation of man from intolerable physical and psychological conditions, and ultimately are united in their conception of the Promised Land. Although to answer these questions here would take too long I want to mention a few things about my core political beliefs. They center upon utter waste of intelligence used in the ideology of atheism, the destructiveness of capitalism, the importance of peace and disarmament for the planet, and the terrible costs of war.  All this can be found in my storify link.
 
My first religious experience occurred at around the age of six. I experienced a phenomenon called astral projection. While asleep I was able to leave my body and look down upon myself sleeping. It was as if my body and soul were two complete different entities. Since then I have had numerous religious experiences, many of which are personal, and far too many to list or explain here.





5) How much of your daily life is devoted to your cause? Can you describe your day-to-day activities? What kind of work do you do? Have you made personal sacrifices in pursuit of your goal?
 
My day to day activities have been the same more or less for the last 20 years: shipping and selling used computers and monitors by the container load to so-called “backward” countries. One may ask how can someone who rants and raves about the destructiveness of science and technology work in the field? But I guess you need to work in the field to really experience it. One needs only to look and see how computers have been used for the total control of human life, in both the private and public spheres. NSA revelations of spying upon the entire American people were made possible thanks to computers. To Marx science and technology were the great liberators of human kind, but it was their destructive and repressive use under the capitalist mode of production that made them in to instruments of enslavement and control. Their great potential to liberate man from the violence of raw brutal nature is not to be minimized, but capitalism squanders this great potential in an never ending cycle of wars (i.e., imperialism), unnecessary gadgets, waste, manipulation of conscious and subconscious processes for commercial and political processes (i.e., advertising and the beauty industry). This inflicts great harm upon the human species, both in its physical and spiritual dimensions. The repressive capitalist system has created the material prerequisites for its liquidation, and for its replacement by an authentic socialist society. What we are witnessing is what Theodor Adorno called the totally “administered life,” one of complete technological and scientific domination of man under capitalism. The benefits of the Enlightenment turn in to their opposite, creating further fear and destruction, leading to the total integration of opposites and creating a society without opposition. As humans we have to fight for freedom even under the most adverse conditions. So my campaign has taken a lot from me, and I have had to make many sacrifices. I have suffered incarceration, slander, ridicule, public disgrace, and harassment from my enemies and critics. They are still pursuing me to this very day.






6) Do you regret any of the actions that led to your arrest? Will it lead you to change the way you campaign in future?
 
Finally. Yes, I do. To start I want sincerely from the depths of my heart apologize to Tim Farley and hope to make peace with him despite all the animosity that has existed between us. Several years ago I said certain things I should have never said, words that were totally inappropriate, inexcusable, and looking back I can see how they could affect someone in a really negative way. I think many people were affected, but Tim Farley the most. But at that time I was in a dirty war with skeptics who are constantly attacking one form of so-called pseudoscience or another, attacking the fundamental rights of people to believe whatever they want without outside interference, even if these beliefs were harmful or hurtful. This was not a battle of weapons but a war of ideas. I never had the intention meant to hurt him in any shape or form - that was not the point. I erroneously believed shock tactics would wake people to the Truth. The internet is a brutal place and you need a thick skin to survive on it. Tim Farley also published nasty commentary on me on his TAM blog and forum, always after my arrests. These are used all the time by my critics. They focus on the threats and not on the underlying message, which is that Nostradamus was one of the greatest writers of all time, and the only man capable of predicting the future with such stunning accuracy. The nasty blog posts drove me to engage in an ad hominems attack in rebuttal to his lengthy character assassinations on me, and on my storify page by I call him  a "nightmare of the one-dimensional man." This is unfair and untrue, but the potential is there if he continues with his aggressive skeptical activities. Anyways, I am retired from debating skeptics; it just goes nowhere if they can't see the simple truth. No longer will I post on the topic and I expect that others stop posting on me, likewise. However this is necessarily contingent upon my critics in that they cease desist from harassing and persecuting me online and in real life, otherwise I would be forced back to my computer to defend my name against further slander and lies. We wish Farley all the best with his dog Blue (I have a dog that looks exactly the same!), and from what I hear, congratulations on his recent engagement. We must settle things like men, make amends for personal differences and human errors, and forgive - for we are all tainted by sin. The courts and the police are not the place to resolve ideological differences between real men. From all the hateful messages I have received from skeptics and atheists over the years, only a single nice one arrived, and it was from Tim Farley, wishing me and my family a happy holidays. Anyhow, I wish him a happy and healthy future with his family. I want to move on with my life and I wish the same to him. I want to end on peaceful and friendly terms with him despite all the fireworks of the past.

“If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins. (NLT, Matthew 6:14-15)”
 

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« Reply #15 on: 18/02/2014 14:00:50 »
... I remember pulling from the library while I was high school an edition of the Prophecies. Somehow I knew that Depeche Mode was going to be referenced inside. I just knew it. I told one my friends at the time what I thought and he said I was crazy. But we were sitting outside smoking some hash in the yard and I was flipping through the pages until we hit Century VIII, Quatrain 66 which says, “When the letters D.M. are found …” He looked at me in amazement and said, “You’re right!”

If that story is true it's not evidence that Nostradamus could predict the future, it's (very weak) evidence you have paranormal powers. If you have not been able to consistently repeat this type predictive feat then it's a one-off fluke coincidence, (like winning the lottery), rather than you or Nostradamus having paranormal powers.

... Randi sets out to prove that Nostradamus was a fraud and that his writings are so vague and unspecific that they can be made to mean almost anything ...

Mr Randi is correct ...

Quote from: skepdic.com/apophenia
In statistics, apophenia is called a Type I error, seeing patterns where none, in fact, exist. It is highly probable that the apparent significance of many unusual experiences and phenomena are due to apophenia, e.g., ghosts and hauntings, EVP, numerology, the Bible code, anomalous cognition, ganzfeld "hits", most forms of divination, the prophecies of Nostradamus, remote viewing, and a host of other paranormal and supernatural experiences and phenomena.
http://www.skepdic.com/apophenia.html
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« Reply #16 on: 19/02/2014 19:31:59 »
Markuze is only *responding* to a challenge initiated by skeptics themselves.

newbielink:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/challenge [nonactive]
 

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« Reply #17 on: 24/02/2014 23:31:29 »


MUG SHOT - CHINESE ARMY
 

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« Reply #18 on: 05/03/2014 23:43:54 »
Why did NOSTRADAMUS always have to be so damn RIGHT!



Century VIII, Quatrain 66 {Benoist Rigaud edition de 1568}

Quand l’escriture D.M.trouuee,
Et caue antique lampe descouuerte,
Loy, Roy,& Prince Vlpian esprouuee,
Pauillon Royne & Duc sous la couuerte.

When the inscription D.M. is found
in the ancient cave, revealed by a lamp.
Law, the King and Prince Ulpian tried,
the Queen and Duke in the pavilion under cover.
 

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« Reply #19 on: 06/03/2014 01:08:55 »

As predicted in reply #8 in this thread , ( I must be Nostradamus reincarnated :) ) .
 

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« Reply #20 on: 06/03/2014 07:49:07 »
Just shows what you can achieve by mistranslating medieval French. Surely Et = "and", not "in" (en) and Pavillon = "flag".
 

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« Reply #21 on: 06/03/2014 09:01:39 »
Just shows what you can achieve by mistranslating ...

there's an app for that ... http://ackuna.com/badtranslator :)    [cf. cognitive slippage ]
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Re: The Mabus Case
« Reply #22 on: 10/05/2014 05:54:47 »

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Re: The Mabus Case
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