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I thought everyone here might find this rather interesting: 



 

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They need to take more water with it ...



Even if Eridanus did look like a human profile, (which it doesn't), constellations are arbitrary patterns.
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You have to read the book because the author explains that the surrounding star formations (both Eridanus including cetus and fornax) all strongly point to the Egyptians crown and dress attire. 

It is no mystery that the Egyptians copied from the stars above. 

What did you mean by "water"?
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Anyone can play join-the-dots to produce any pattern they like ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy

What did you mean by "water"?

"They need to take more water with it ..." = they are insensible.
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I think it looks like a bunny.
 

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Here's some top-quality face pareidolia , (none of your low-grade star-patterns ) ...




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Canis Major looks like a dog barking the holy language - whatever that may be.

Everyone knows that God speaks English with a baritone New England accent. Don't people watch the movies any more?
 

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But the question needs to be asked WHY are humans able to discern such patterns and apply meaning?

Perhaps these star patterns, and their likeness, are a way of directing us to look deeper.  Maybe they are like road signs that are meant to be read and direct us?

A sort of cosmic GPS.   
 

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It's amazing the amount of information that can be inferred or implied from a set of points. The brain does like to connect the dots.
And even more so if you add a little movement.
This is a fun website to play with.

http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html

I imagine that you could customize this so that you could recognize friends or relatives' gaits by the movement of the dots.
 

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They need to take more water with it ...



Even if Eridanus did look like a human profile, (which it doesn't), constellations are arbitrary patterns.

At the top there, is that the bull?
 

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It says that it is Taurus, so I'm assuming it is Taurus the Bull yes.  Now in the book it shows another picture of the constellation Cetus above the head of Eridanus, and Fornax behind what appears the as the image of a crown (as part of the constellation Eridanus).  This is supposed to illustrate both upper and lower Egypt.  Cetus is suppose to illustrate the snake that the Egyptians have in the front part of the crown. 

This is the best picture I could find.  It is sideways, but you can see both Cetus and Fornax above Eridanus.





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But the question needs to be asked WHY are humans able to discern such patterns and apply meaning?
Not "discern" but "superimpose". Those of feeble intellect seek the familiar in all things. In fact the sentence is exactly back to front: some people apply patterns where there are none, and seek to discern meaning from the meaningless.   

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Perhaps these star patterns, and their likeness, are a way of directing us to look deeper.  Maybe they are like road signs that are meant to be read and direct us?
Anything with the power to arrange the stars is quite capable of communicating in plain English. Or indeed any other language.

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A sort of cosmic GPS.
GPS is cosmic. Unlike mysticism, it is unequivocal.   
 

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This is the best picture I could find.  It is sideways, but you can see both Cetus and Fornax above Eridanus.

And a smiley face ...



Even when astronomical features do actually resemble people it's pareidolia ...


http://www.livescience.com/40860-screaming-witch-head-nebula-halloween-photo.html


http://www.space.com/24225-hand-of-god-photo-nasa-telescope.html

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Its my personal opinion that the ancients where directing us to these specific constellation because the Great pyramid points to them.  Perhaps a cosmic calendar.
 

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Its my personal opinion that the ancients where directing us to these specific constellation because the Great pyramid points to them.

Your name isn't Graham Hancock is it ? ... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Graham_Hancock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_correlation_theory#Criticisms
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It says that it is Taurus, so I'm assuming it is Taurus the Bull yes. 



I thought it looked like bull
 

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I thought it looked like bull

Looks like bull to me too. You know, I'll bet there's even a constellation that looks like....

....a plane full of jet fuel!

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It is well known that the precession of the equinoxes are geared at the great year 25,920 years.

The Great Pyramid is such a device which is aligned with the equinoxes and is such a device for measuring the seasons aligned with stars.   

The red spiral design shown in the picture above shows the precession of these seven stars and they equate to 25,920.  This path is well know to the Masons as they place in the center of the masonic ruler as the letter G.  Perhaps this is what the new world order is all about?
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The Great Pyramid ... Perhaps this is what the new world order is all about?

There's nothing "new" about something built over four thousand years ago,
 [ or paranoia ]
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25920 what? AD, BC, Gregorian, Aztec, Julian, Hindu, or Ethiopian, to name but a few calendars.

Both the Mayan apocalypse and the millennium bug turned out to be significant nonevents*. What does Taurus the Bullshit predict? 

Practically every ancient monument is aligned to an equinox or solstice, for exactly the same reason that every modern clock is aligned with UTC. What, then, are the scientists in time standards laboratories trying to tell us (apart from the time, of course)?


*actually, we are all dead, but there's a massive conspiracy led by the Illuminati of Bilderberg that has replaced everyone with a computer simulation of everyone else so you don't know it. Why do you think the IT guy tells you to switch it off and on again? It's all about rebirth through the cosmic yoni.
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I think you've watched the Matrix movie one to many times!   :)
 

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But the question needs to be asked WHY are humans able to discern such patterns and apply meaning?
Much of the internal workings of the brain involve pattern matching, which makes it an extremely capable pattern recognition device. The question has been asked, and the most widely accepted explanation is, predictably, an evolutionary one, crudely summarised as 'spot the camouflaged predator before it eats you'. In general, the detection of patterns in the environment helps detect and predict events, e.g. tracking animals; predicting the behaviour of predators, prey, and other people; predicting weather; recognising plants and when their fruits are available; etc. There is an area in the brain dedicated to recognising faces.

As a result, we're so good at matching & recognising partial patterns we can see patterns, particularly faces, in completely random data, such as clouds, stars, tea leaves, toast, lottery numbers (not faces!), etc.   

The ability to predict behaviour was a powerful evolutionary influence, and probably explains our general tendency to assign meaning and attribute agency to unfamiliar or random events, and to anthropomorphise it by describing it in familiar terms. Hence, gods, fairies, elves, gremlins, angels, spirits, ghosts, etc.

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Perhaps these star patterns, and their likeness, are a way of directing us to look deeper.  Maybe they are like road signs that are meant to be read and direct us?
No. They are patterns imposed on random data; constellation stars may appear to be grouped from our position, but the stars in them are often of widely varying distances from us, so the constellation would not appear from even a slightly different position of view. You can do the constellation exercise with any random pattern of dots.

Our innate and subconscious pattern heuristics and biases are such a strong influence that, despite our modern scientific understanding of the world and our own perceptual and cognitive frailties, many people are still seduced by them (mostly those who don't know the modern scientific understanding of the world).
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I hear what you are saying about patterns. 

However the book "In search of the holy language" also threw me for a loop on this one............... it said, that the Hebrew letters are also being produced within the human brain when we are in the thinking process. And that is the same spiral pattern produced from the Fibonacci sequence that is behind it again.
 

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Utter piffle. The shape of the Hebrew alphabet is entirely due to its being written from right to left with a flat nib held in the right hand. Modern italic handwriting has the same characteristics, backwards.

There's a classic problem in medical psychophysics called the ring artefact. If you present an image of a disc consisting entirely of random black pixels, i.e. pure noise, people will swear that there is a pattern of concentric circles inside the disc, but if you set up a pattern recognition algorithm to look for them objectively, they aren't there. All very funny except that sometimes there really is a ring artefact in a CT or MRI image, which is indicative of a machine fault!
 

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Utter piffle. The shape of the Hebrew alphabet is entirely due to its being written from right to left with a flat nib held in the right hand. Modern italic handwriting has the same characteristics, backwards.

There's a classic problem in medical psychophysics called the ring artefact. If you present an image of a disc consisting entirely of random black pixels, i.e. pure noise, people will swear that there is a pattern of concentric circles inside the disc, but if you set up a pattern recognition algorithm to look for them objectively, they aren't there. All very funny except that sometimes there really is a ring artefact in a CT or MRI image, which is indicative of a machine fault!

Have you seen the video: 

Pause it, and observe closely at some of the Hebrew letters that are shown.  You will see that they are identical to the Hebrew letters found in the Torah.  I also have the book, and ALL 27 of the Hebrew letters match perfectly.  You can call this chance all you want, but intelligence dictates otherwise.

Again remember, all these Hebrew letters are produced from a single spiral form that has the mathematical unit of the Fibonacci Sequence.  The Fibonacci Sequence is what feeds into the Golden Spiral, or otherwise known as the Golden Ratio.  1.618/0.618

It would make sense that since everything in nature follows these rules, so also then should the human brain in the spiral wave/ring patterns it produces during conscious thinking. 

You know, I used to be a firm believer in the evolution theory because science and the schooling system has us so brainwashed. But after reading this book and the evidence it illustrates has me seriously questioning now?



 
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