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Offline alan hess

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WHY GRAVITATIONAL WAVE DETECTORS FAIL
« on: 24/02/2014 18:59:30 »
      Gravitational wave detectors have gotten more sensitive and accurate over the years, they are looking for disturbances or differences in the fabric of space. This is fine as long as the current theories are correct, and we just need bigger detectors in order to work. The sun is converting mass to energy, it has lost approximately 7% of its mass since it was created.  Gravity hasnít   increased so itís giving up gravitons to keep the same gravity constant. This should be detectable by our gravity wave detectors. Any given mass has a gravity constant which doesnít vary so something is balancing these items. The trouble is we have detected no gravitational waves to this point. Letís look for an alternative reason for the problem.
     Gravitons are theoretical particles. They are the boson force carriers for gravity they have no mass, or charge. They have a spin of two, and are capable of traveling at the speed of light. They are the exchange   particles for gravity and as such are affected by gravity. Gravitons are like electrons and will have a dual nature of both a particle and a wave. This fact gives the explanation of why Newton and Einstein are both correct. Newtonís theory looks at the particle nature side of gravitons. Einsteinís quantum field theory follows the wave nature of gravitons.
      Photons are massless and have no charge they are the boson force carriers for the electromagnetic spectrum, they have a spin of one and travel at the speed of light. The current theory is the fabric of space is warped or dimpled at points of high gravity and photons follow this curved path. Since they have no mass or charge they should hop over these dimples like a golf ball hopping over a cup, yet they donít. The photon is created by the electron jumping to a higher orbit and falling back releasing photons. The photons can now travel across the universe.  The graviton travels with these photons because it was released at the same time. Due to the fact that the graviton is traveling with them and the graviton is affected by gravity, the photons will bend when getting near sources of high gravity. Now this also gives the reason why gravitational wave detectors will not work. When these photons strike a surface the photon energy, and the gravitons will be reflected or absorbed into the surface of the object being struck, neither the gravitons or photons will penetrate to underground detectors.
    In the early universe when energy and temperatures were much higher, the strong, weak, electromagnetic, and gravity were all one force. They separated into the current forces as things cooled it has been proven that the strong, weak and electromagnetic forces would be the same at higher energies similar to ice, water ,and steam theyíre all the same yet different so itís easy to see the photons and gravitons can travel together. One has a spin of one, and the other has a spin of two so there is no conflict.
So letís go back to the original problem, and see how this all balances out. The sun radiates photons and gravitons they hit the planets and will be absorbed, or reradiated. The gravitons will mostly head into the galaxy. Everything stays in balance.


 

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Re: WHY GRAVITATIONAL WAVE DETECTORS FAIL
« Reply #1 on: 10/03/2014 11:02:52 »
If the gravitons are absorbed along with photons, then that would mean I can "hide" from gravity under  .. anything non-transparent*? Doesn't seem to be the case. Gravity from the beneath the Earth would not be able to effect my because its gravitons do not reach me on the surface, but just the very thin layer of whatever I am standing would actually interact with me via gravity? Doesn't seem to be the case.
*Photons can exist at pretty much infinite spectrum of wavelengths, each interacting differently with matter. Longer waves (very low freaquency radio vaves) can penetrate deep beneath the Earths surface.. so some photons/ gravitons would get to the detectors? I am confused.

 

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Re: WHY GRAVITATIONAL WAVE DETECTORS FAIL
« Reply #2 on: 10/03/2014 13:59:47 »
Yes sir I agree with you up to point. Gravitons are twofold. They are exchanged between the planet and you so your being under a tarp would not protect you from gravity example if you were in a cave, you still have gravity, because of the exchange between the planet and you. Radio waves of the long frequencies  really do not have free interference. Although they do travel for long distances. There are too many things that support this theory of photons and gravitons traveling together versus gravity waves. They have been trying since the 50s to detect gravity waves through various experiments, the sun is giving up mass, giving up gravity in order to stay balanced. Our gravity detectors should be able to detect this and do not. The whole galaxy is strewn with these factors, and none of them are detected. To me this is more confusing. There must be an alternative. Light bends going around planets or  high gravitational sources. If photons had gravitons traveling with them they would be affected by gravity, also, this would allow photons to be the exchange medium to stabilize  gravity throughout the universe. In the beginning of time. The 4 forces gravity, strong force, weak force, and electromagnetic spectrum were one, as the universe cooled gravity was the 1st to separate out, then the others separated. It has been proven that the other 3 are one at higher temperatures, they can't get the temperature high enough or gravity would be one if they could. To me this is another proof that the graviton can travel with the photon. The photon has a spin of one, and gravity has a spin of 2, so they can travel together with no interference both can travel with speed of light, both are massless particles.
 

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