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Re: Could This Machine Save Malaria Victims?
« Reply #50 on: 26/05/2014 01:19:13 »
Re: links in Reply #49

According to WOT services the trustworthiness rating of "anh-europe.org"  is "unsatisfactory" ... https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/anh-europe.org

Anyone can write anything on "Topix.com".  In the Britain the word "chiropractic" is synonymous with quacks who attempt to silence their critics via the courts , and fail.

rationalwiki.org gets a trustworthness rating of "excellent" from WOT ...
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/rationalwiki.org

Here's a link to their summary of the Quackwatch lawsuits involving Dr Barrett ...
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quackwatch#Lawsuit
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Re: Could This Machine Save Malaria Victims?
« Reply #51 on: 26/05/2014 10:32:15 »
maybe not:-

http://www.anh-europe.org/news/quackbuster-stephen-barrett-md-loses-appeal-and-leaves-home-town




Do you understand that having lost a case in 2007 doesn't affect the outcome of an ongoing case that only started in 2010?
Or did you somehow think it was relevant?

 

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Re: Could This Machine Save Malaria Victims?
« Reply #52 on: 30/05/2014 23:08:27 »
"The  parasite  seems  to  be  more  sturdy  than  expected
because  group  560  (50  degrees  Celsius  for  30  minutes)  failed
to  eliminate  it  entirely ...

Your unattributed quote confirms heating reduces parasite numbers.
If the experimental populations were 0.5C above the control for "56 hours" it could produce a measurable difference in parasite numbers, (rather any due to magnetic fields).


The Thompson-Brown study says otherwise.

field strengths of 0.682  2.73 and 6.82 milliteslas were used.

standard equations for a solenoid show field strength proportional to current.

the 6.82 /0.682 =10 times current and I squared heating would be 100 times more in 6.82 coil then in 0.682 tesla coil.

Also the 6.82 would be producing more heat by 4 times compared to 2.73 coil.

yet it is the middle coil which produces the best results in all 4 tables.

yet the table shows best effects was obtained with the 2.73 millitesla coil and not the hottest coil of 6.82 milliteslas therefore discounting the fever theory.

Figure 5,6,7 and 8. the percentage red blood cells infected by ring, trophozoites, or schizonts at 0 hours, 24 hours and 48 hours of treatment

"Results:-
In the first trial, the control sample grew 42% after 24 hours. Here, the treatment groups actually
grew well after 24 hours having a percentage increase of 95%, 96%, and 43% respectively.
After 28 hours, the control group had grown very well with a 207% increase while the treatment
groups were floundering with an overall growth of 6%, 10% and 21%. In the second trial, the
overall growth of all samples is worse than that of the first trial. However, the control group
does grow better than the treatment groups. After 24 hours, the control groups increased by
249% while the treatment groups grew by 154%, 50%, and 96%. After 48 hours, the control had
grown by 60% overall, while the treatment groups had less parasites than they started with. The
overall growth in the treatment groups was -13, -84%, and -41% respectively.
While the growth rates of the different treatment groups (with different magnetic field intensity)
do not significantly differ from themselves, they are significantly lower than the control group at
the 48-hour mark of both trials. The treatment is able to significantly inhibit growth of
Plasmodium falciparum. However, when the magnetic field strength is increased, the effect is
not visibly enhanced".

Also why was this moved to this section?

"Plasmodium falciparum Response to Oscillating Weak Magnetic
Fields
Mary Thompson, Department of Physics, Case Western Reserve University
Dr. Robert Brown, Department of Physics, Case Western Reserve University
Dr. Brian Grimberg, Center for Global Health and Disease, CWRU School of Medicine"

Presumably the person who did this either failed to read the above paper or was nobbled by big pharma's foot soldiers.

i mean don't want to lose malaria drug sales do we?

 [xx(] [xx(] [xx(]

Let 6000 people a day die a painful death from malaria while you stuff your pockets with 



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Re: Could This Machine Save Malaria Victims?
« Reply #53 on: 31/05/2014 00:31:24 »
The diagram looks like the coils are wired in parallel , not "series" ...

Quote from: Thompson_Brown_2011


Three solenoids of 28 gauge wire were connected in series with different numbers of turns: {250,1000, 2500}.
http://www.phys.cwru.edu/undergrad/Senior%20Projects/papers/papers2011/Thompson_Brown_2011%20S.pdf

If parallel then the current flowing in each coil is different.
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Re: Could This Machine Save Malaria Victims?
« Reply #54 on: 03/06/2014 19:46:27 »
The diagram looks like the coils are wired in parallel , not "series" ...

Quote from: Thompson_Brown_2011


Three solenoids of 28 gauge wire were connected in series with different numbers of turns: {250,1000, 2500}.
http://www.phys.cwru.edu/undergrad/Senior%20Projects/papers/papers2011/Thompson_Brown_2011%20S.pdf

If parallel then the current flowing in each coil is different.
did not see that bit..pdf are hard to read on a monitor.

The diagram is misleading and maybe for illustrative purposes only...

the text:-

Three solenoids of 28 gauge wire were connected in series with different numbers of turns: {250,1000, 2500}

This means the current flow is the same in all 3 solenoids.But the resistance in 2 and 3 must be higher
then in 1 by 5 to 10 times DUE TO INCREASED number of turns.more turns=more resistance.

since heating energy = i squared times r

E=I2R

then coil 3 would still be the hottest compared to 1 and 2.



but coil 2 shows was most effective therefore still discounts heat as the cause of malaria parasite reduction.


 

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