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Cancer free cigarette - is this idea viable?
« on: 12/05/2014 00:15:45 »

Cigarette smoking causes half million deaths yearly in the US alone, five to ten million worldwide. Scientists predict there will be one billion smoking related deaths in this century.

It would be an advance in the art of cigarette smoking to provide a cigarette that can be easily vaporized by using a lighter. Such cigarette could be widely used by cigarette smokers
and largely avoid the harmful effects of inhaling toxic pyrolytic compounds found in smoke and provide the other benefits of vaporization.

A cigarette rolled by heat conducting and resisting material made rolling paper such as tin foil, can be easily vaporized by heating the cigarette body.


 

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Re: Cancer free cigarette - is this idea viable?
« Reply #1 on: 12/05/2014 00:29:49 »
I think electric nicotine vaporizers that are used today are a good solution. Why burn up and inhale anything you don't have to? Combustion of any organic compounds (including butane) is going to create compounds that are carcinogenic unless the burn is oxygen rich enough and hot enough for complete combustion, but that would consume the nicotine as well.

It should be pointed out that nicotine itself is quite toxic, so the notion of a harmless cigarette is somewhat silly, but I certainly think that vaporization and inhalation of pure nicotine in some innocuous carrier like water and propylene glycol is MUCH better than smoking.
 

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Re: Cancer free cigarette - is this idea viable?
« Reply #2 on: 12/05/2014 00:40:36 »
This thing is not for smoking but for vaporizing. Heat up tobacco to produce vapor instead combustion tobacco to produce smoke.

Tin foil might be replaced by graphene pretty soon.
 

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Re: Cancer free cigarette - is this idea viable?
« Reply #3 on: 12/05/2014 08:05:52 »
Who cares? Everyone knows that smoking is bad for you, nobody smokes involuntarily, and there are general prohibitions on smoking in public places. The only reason to invent a cigarette substitute is to make money from the weakness of others.

If you want to invent a new form of mild addiction, why make it complicated? Try nicotine pills. Being unobtrusive, you will be able to sell them to chlldren, and as a stimulant, you can sell them to soldiers, truck drivers....and they won't count as illegal drugs!
 

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« Reply #4 on: 12/05/2014 08:12:42 »
From the video, it certainly appears as if something is burning and creating smoke. 

I certainly don't believe you should claim any whole tobacco product is "cancer free" without EXTENSIVE testing.  For example, filtered cigarettes were supposed to be the salvation of the smokers...  unfortunately testing indicates that they in fact were no safer than unfiltered cigarettes. 

There are a few forms of smokeless tobacco.  Dipping Tobacco, or Chew in the USA has been associated with mouth, throat, and even bladder cancer.  Nasal smokeless tobacco in the UK, however apparently does not have a strong association with cancer.

There have been questions about aluminum and Alzheimer's Disease, although the jury is still out on whether aluminum intake is causative. 

I would certainly predict that your flame vaporized tobacco products could put users at risk. 

As far as E-Cigs.  I presume the number of carcinogens will be much lower than other tobacco sources, and thus they may well be safer than smoking.  However, it may well be 50 years from now before we see the full impact with significant numbers of never-smokers using the E-Cigs for long-term.

Graphene in its raw form is extremely fragile.  Perhaps graphite could be used, but it is often mixed with resins which could be toxic if burnt or vaporized.
 

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Re: Cancer free cigarette - is this idea viable?
« Reply #5 on: 12/05/2014 09:26:00 »
Who cares? Everyone knows that smoking is bad for you, nobody smokes involuntarily, and there are general prohibitions on smoking in public places. The only reason to invent a cigarette substitute is to make money from the weakness of others.

If you want to invent a new form of mild addiction, why make it complicated? Try nicotine pills. Being unobtrusive, you will be able to sell them to chlldren, and as a stimulant, you can sell them to soldiers, truck drivers....and they won't count as illegal drugs!

I care. I addicted to nicotine, but smoke hurts my lungs. E cigs can not give me good buzz, pills and patches are useless to me. Vaporizers are hard to use and expensive.

I invent this to save lives, including my own. http://forum.grasscity.com/vaporizers/1215141-can-you-invent-vaporizer.html

I hope you are not a smoker, I have two friends died lung cancer. I used cough a LOT and my lungs hurt badly by inhaling smoke, since I vaporize my health improved much.
 

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Re: Cancer free cigarette - is this idea viable?
« Reply #6 on: 13/05/2014 02:12:40 »
From the video, it certainly appears as if something is burning and creating smoke. 

I certainly don't believe you should claim any whole tobacco product is "cancer free" without EXTENSIVE testing.  For example, filtered cigarettes were supposed to be the salvation of the smokers...  unfortunately testing indicates that they in fact were no safer than unfiltered cigarettes. 

There are a few forms of smokeless tobacco.  Dipping Tobacco, or Chew in the USA has been associated with mouth, throat, and even bladder cancer.  Nasal smokeless tobacco in the UK, however apparently does not have a strong association with cancer.

There have been questions about aluminum and Alzheimer's Disease, although the jury is still out on whether aluminum intake is causative. 

I would certainly predict that your flame vaporized tobacco products could put users at risk. 

As far as E-Cigs.  I presume the number of carcinogens will be much lower than other tobacco sources, and thus they may well be safer than smoking.  However, it may well be 50 years from now before we see the full impact with significant numbers of never-smokers using the E-Cigs for long-term.

Graphene in its raw form is extremely fragile.  Perhaps graphite could be used, but it is often mixed with resins which could be toxic if burnt or vaporized.

Shall we call you Mr.Certainly?
 

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