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Believe it or not....
« on: 03/11/2014 11:11:08 »
Believe it or not....

If you searched the Bible for encoded information, and you found it, what would you do if no one else seems to find it of any interest at all, and all this happens at the same time that some people are really attracted to seeing a picture of Jesus on a piece of toast, or perhaps on the side of a tree. In other words, incredibly stupid things trigger attention, yet the opposite does not.

Anyhow, to have a peek/listen to the codes, turn up your computer sound and click on the flashing wordswhen you get to this website http://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2a.htm [nofollow]


 

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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #2 on: 03/11/2014 17:21:19 »
Kannst du lesen und verstehen?

The above sentence may be of no use to you, but that is because it is of a different language. However, if one language is of no use to you, that does not mean that all other languages are also of no use as well. After all, all languages are different.

Imagine that there is such a thing as a true Bible Code language. Now imagine someone else dreams up another code language that from head to toe is absolute pure rubbish. If this pure rubbish code language is eventually identified as being pure rubbish, the skill testing question is how is it that the pure rubbish code language magically destroys any and all other possible code languages at the same time.

Well the folk who completely reject the idea of the possible existence of true Bible Codes can explain this. We await your explanations.

The Bible Codes that I exposed are of a completely different code language than the pure rubbish code language that is discussed at... 
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Bible_Code [nofollow] and/or  http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html [nofollow]

Concerning the True Bible codes, many years have passed by, but despite there being a reward of $100,000 for anyone that could prove that these codes were nothing but a farce, no one has ever tried.
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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #3 on: 03/11/2014 17:49:52 »
The Bible Codes that I exposed are of a completely different code language than the pure rubbish code language that is discussed at ...  http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

Despite being  a "pure rubbish code" it predicts the assassinations of eight world famous figures, and predicts details of the death of Lady Diana ...


http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/diana.html

[ and predicts 9/11 , and anything else if you want if you look hard enough ].
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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #4 on: 03/11/2014 18:52:00 »
Hinsdsight is not prediction.

Any accurate prediction of human events can be forestalled by human intervention and thus prevented from coming  true, and thus rendered inaccurate.

The interesting predictions are those that haven't yet happened, and aren't physically inevitable. Find one and let me know, both before and after it occurs, and I might just take an interest in your source..
 

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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #5 on: 03/11/2014 23:36:26 »
The codes that I have exposed do not deal at all with predictions.

It's all based upon proof of the existence of God and Jesus Christ, rather than mere petty predictions.

The funny part is that all of the religious folk who have seen it say that they don't need any proof of the existence of God and Jesus Christ.

Well that's not that big a deal, but they then follow through with violent opposition toward the proof of the existence of God and Jesus Christ.

That's weird !
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« Reply #6 on: 04/11/2014 04:41:53 »
It's all based upon proof of the existence of God and Jesus Christ ...

You're in the wrong forum to attempt to prove the existence of any god,
 particularly when your evidence is a stereotypical-example of the Texas sharpshooter fallacy.

As demonstrated above you could pick the names of many world-famous persons from a large sample of letters using the ELS method , ( so the names* of many gods could be found the bible, or Moby Dick, or a telephone directory,  or any text, using the ELS method ).

Many* "hidden" words can be found in any large text , (the larger the better).
That religious people select the name of their own-brand god is confirmation bias.

Further reading ...

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/hidden_messages_and_the_bible_code/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia


[ * the shorter the word the more likely it will occur : worshippers of Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli are unlikely to favour ELS as proof of his existence ].


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« Reply #7 on: 04/11/2014 06:22:30 »
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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #8 on: 05/11/2014 08:55:24 »
You make a great comedian.

Anyhow, getting back to the codes that I have exposed, you have not mentioned anything about them.




Anyhow, to have a peek/listen to the codes, turn up your computer sound and click on the flashing wordswhen you get to this website http://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2a.htm [nofollow]   It seems as though no hits have been collected at the website as of yet, thus "Reject Without Inspect" seems to have most folk at its knees for the moment.
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« Reply #9 on: 05/11/2014 15:21:15 »
... getting back to the codes that I have exposed, you have not mentioned anything about them.

I have mentioned that just about any word you want can be found in the bible, or similar large text, using the ELS method, ( the smaller the word the more likely it can be found) ...

http://www.biblecodewisdom.com/code/short-words-are-easy-found  [ gets 13 hits ].

http://www.biblecodewisdom.com/code/star-trek-better-than-star-wars  [ gets 46 hits ].

http://www.biblecodewisdom.com/code/star-wars-hero-called-solo-was-actor-called-ford  [5 hits ]

http://www.biblecodewisdom.com/code/fred-hoyle-said-big-bang-false [1 hit ].


http://www.biblecodewisdom.com/code/naked-science
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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #10 on: 05/11/2014 16:49:20 »

I have mentioned that just about any word you want can be found in the bible, or similar large text, using the ELS method..

Yep....the ELS search method, that allows you to search for words who's letters are equally distanced apart, finds words who's letters are equally distanced apart when you do a search, just as you have said. It does exactly what it is expected to do.

But it's the code language that does the decoding.
 

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« Reply #11 on: 05/11/2014 21:01:09 »
Yep....the ELS search method, that allows you to search for words who's letters are equally distanced apart, finds words who's letters are equally distanced apart when you do a search, just as you have said. It does exactly what it is expected to do.

But it's the code language that does the decoding.

Your screengrabs above mentioned ELS six times and gematria (numerology).

anyone combining these practices is simultaneously flogging two dead horses.
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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #12 on: 06/11/2014 07:41:25 »
The fundamental misunderstanding here is that, unlike the little green men from Mars,  the Christian god is not English-speaking, and was not even invented by anglophones. JHVH is Jewish. He is named, addressed, and indeed replies, only in Ancient Hebrew and generally without vowels (there are some who claim he is Welsh). His supposed illegitimate son spoke Aramaic, and most of what we know about him was originally written in Greek, hundreds of years after he died. So you won't find much credible coded evidence of their existence in the King James Bible.

That well known fundamentalist rabbi, Jesus of Nazareth, was a victim of Roman cunning amplified by translators' ignorance. When the crowd shouted "release unto us Barabbas" the occupying power discharged a social pest known to them by that nickname, but it is unlikely that a significant number of Israelites actually knew or cared who he was, or wanted him released into the community. The shout of "Bar Abbas", literally "the son of the father" obviously referred to Jesus, who called himself exactly that and was fairly popular among the proletariat.

No problem proving the existence of a god, however. Just predict one thing that it can do, that can't be explained or predicted by any other means, and see if it happens. The results to date are not encouraging.
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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #13 on: 06/11/2014 07:48:47 »
PS

http://www.biblecodewisdom.com/code/bull-sh1t

gives 314 matches. Proof indeed.
 

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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #14 on: 06/11/2014 09:11:55 »
Satan = 666???
 

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« Reply #15 on: 06/11/2014 10:41:56 »
Satan = 666???
or 616 , ( the fax number of the beast :)
 

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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #16 on: 06/11/2014 10:47:30 »
Now I'm worried. I delved into biblecodewisdom again and couldn't find either my name or my callsign. But "bullshit" produced plenty of matches. What do we deduce from this?
 

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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #17 on: 06/11/2014 11:16:44 »
Are you sure you did not find yourself. Hee Hee
Quote from: alancalverd
The fundamental misunderstanding here is that, unlike the little green men from Mars,  the Christian god is not English-speaking, and was not even invented by anglophones. JHVH is Jewish. He is named, addressed, and indeed replies, only in Ancient Hebrew and generally without vowels (there are some who claim he is Welsh). His supposed illegitimate son spoke Aramaic, and most of what we know about him was originally written in Greek, hundreds of years after he died. So you won't find much credible coded evidence of their existence in the King James Bible.

That God fellow created Time and Space and thus he himself extends beyond such limits. Time passes by and Bibles are translated, but this is how it is seen only by the extremely primitive life forms known as humans that reside within time, rather than surround time. From the God fellows point of view, he sees all translations simultaneously and thus sees them as simply one Bible.

It still seems as though no hits have been collected at the website as of yet, thus "Reject Without Inspect" still seems to have most folk at its knees, and may remain as so.
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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #18 on: 06/11/2014 11:40:17 »
Satan = 666???
or 616 , ( the fax number of the beast :)

Who's been watching QI?
 

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« Reply #19 on: 06/11/2014 11:47:52 »
This really is all a load of old tosh. You can read anything you want into anything you choose, see what you want in clouds, toast, tea leaves or turds.

You can no more prove the existence of any deity than I can disprove it. You are on a merry-go-round to nowhere.
 

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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #20 on: 06/11/2014 11:55:04 »
If you use Code 6 English Gematria, you end up with a 666 numerical value for "The Beast is #AAA".
 

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« Reply #21 on: 06/11/2014 14:51:48 »
... You can read anything you want into anything you choose, see what you want in clouds, toast, tea leaves or turds ...

or molten lead ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdomancy
or livers ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruspex

other futile attempts at deviation are available ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methods_of_divination
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« Reply #22 on: 06/11/2014 19:09:37 »
If you use Code 6 English Gematria, you end up with a 666 numerical value for "The Beast is #AAA".


And the first three letters of my name add up to the fourth! So I am clearly possessed of demonic powers, and I hereby condemn you to the everlasting purgatory of your own gullibility.
 

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« Reply #23 on: 07/11/2014 10:45:56 »
You guys are your divide and conquer. What ever happened to unite and concur?

You keep trying to ignore the specifics by splitting the topic into pieces and then by redirecting people away from the actual topic at hand via directing folks toward one or more of the fragments.

People thus follow the deception and so this is why there is still no "hit" recordings of the "True Bible Codes" website having been even visited, never mind having been studied.

Anyhow folks, including RD maybe, to have a peek/listen to the "True Bible Codes", turn up your computer sound and click on the flashing wordswhen you get to this website http://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2a.htm [nofollow]   Don't be afraid. It won't bite. You can't give a true opinion of that of which you have not even seen, unless of course you are a nut case, dingbat, the victim of a whooist, gullible fool, etc.
 

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Re: Believe it or not....
« Reply #24 on: 07/11/2014 17:27:51 »
............ You can't give a true opinion of that of which you have not even seen,
............. gullible

Hmmmm, why do the words 'pot', 'kettle' & 'black' spring to mind???
 

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