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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #25 on: 16/01/2004 14:34:28 »
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I've heard that aspirin can actually cause tinnitus

As far as I am aware, this is only an issue if you take large amounts of Aspirin (about 2g a day) for an extended period of time, but anyway, Paracetamol may work as well in suppressing the tinnitus (at least it does for me). I find it logical that any analgesic (painkiller) numbs and calms the hearing nerve and hence suppresses the ear-ringing. The painkiller Katadolon is even prescribed by some doctors as a tinnitus therapy, but this is a rather strong substance which can have severe side effects and is clinically not very well tested over longer periods. If the occasional Aspirin or Paracetamol has a positive effect, this is in any case to be preferred over other medications which usually have more severe side effects.

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #26 on: 16/01/2004 14:42:03 »
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Thomas The hops in beer Has a definite calming effect.  Hops are used botanically as a muscle relaxer.

The hops may well contribute here, but herbal tablets containing hops do not work half as well for me. Either it has something to do with the other ingredients in the tablets or the additional fluid of the beer (an increased intake of fluid is anyhow beneficial for tinnitus).
It has to be stressed though that the alcohol in normal beer will tend to aggravate the tinnitus, so the hops will work best in the case of alcohol-free beer.

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #27 on: 17/01/2004 10:37:41 »
Yep, getting drunk will ring my ears like heck every time.  I'm starting to notice that caffeine is doing the same thing, which really makes me sad, I can't live without coffee.  =/



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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #28 on: 20/01/2004 04:28:20 »
I don't use alcohol enough to know if it makes a difference.  Coffee makes it a little worse, but not enough to be worth stopping.  ;)

I notice that when I'm retaining extra water, like after a salty meal, it gets worse.  Coffee is a good diuretic and sort of helps.

Lately, my ears have been very stuffy and the tinnitus has been much worse. I've taken some decongestant (guaifensen) (sp?) off and on and it helps some, with the stuffiness and the tinnitus.  I wish I knew of some other decongestant that would help more with unclogging ears.  (HINT HINT)


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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #29 on: 22/01/2004 11:55:59 »
havent slept in about 36 hours, ringing is increasing.... gawd help
 

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #30 on: 22/01/2004 15:51:30 »
Niles, I'm sorry to hear that, but I understand what you're dealing with, believe me.  Is it the ringing that's keeping you awake or is it that you've been awake for so long that's making your ears ring?

I'd get myself to a doctor if this is a common thing you're dealing with.  At the very least they can make sure there's nothing seriously wrong with you (severe tinnitus can be a symptom of something far more sinister) and give you a sedative.

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #31 on: 22/01/2004 19:37:44 »
Niles, have you tried taking some Valerian with a hot milk drink?
 

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #32 on: 23/01/2004 02:42:18 »
I feel a lil better, slept on-off for a couple hours. My tinnitis comes and goes. I have been researching this thing like crazy and think in my case that it has something to do with adrenaline (fight/flight reaction) but am not sure. Many things like caffeine, cigarettes, etc. cause it to be worse, however I think I know what started this episode and have since stopped all those things that keep it getting worse. I have had it for 20 years and it comes and goes alot. This time was bad, but I am a lil better. History: ARMY bomb squad 10 years, water in ear for two weeks from swimming, dangerous procedure on one ear while in Haiti, etc etc. I try to minimize all the things that start it up/ make it unbearable again, but have no control over subconsious (flare-up with adrenaline). Maybe if we could get a cure started with how to quickly get rid of excess adrenaline in the body faster? i dunno...
 

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #33 on: 23/01/2004 07:16:09 »
Talk to your doc about using a benzodiaziprene to treat it.  (xanax, klonopin, etc)  Speaking from experience, they wonders for anxiety-induced tinnitus.  (it's helping mine greatly)  Don't rely on it as a long-term medication, but take it on occasions where the ringing is really bad.

disclaimer:  I'm not a doctor, I'm simply suggesting what worked for me in a similar situation.  Your doctor should hopefully know what's best for you.  If you were in the Army, you should still have access to VA doctors, and they tend to be quite well trained.



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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #34 on: 28/01/2004 04:46:29 »
Donnah,
I thought I'd give you a little feedback.  I've been taking CoQ10 for a couple of weeks, and the multivitamin I take has manganese.  So far my tinnitus has not improved.  It kinda comes and goes depending on how much sleep I do or don't get.   Much of the time, my ears feel a little stuffy and I'm wondering if I have some low grade infection or something.  Thanks for the suggestion - I'm going to keep taking it and see if more time will help.


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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #35 on: 12/02/2004 09:19:47 »
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Lately, my ears have been very stuffy and the tinnitus has been much worse. I've taken some decongestant (guaifensen) (sp?) off and on and it helps some, with the stuffiness and the tinnitus.  I wish I knew of some other decongestant that would help more with unclogging ears.  (HINT HINT)



Ephedrine or any of its derivatives.  The bad news is it almost always requires LARGE amounts to clear up chronic ear congestion and this is not something you want to do by yourself without competent clinical supervision unless you have a death wish.

Guaifenesin is not really a decongestant, but a mucus thinning agent which also increases the expulsion rate by acting directly on the kidneys.  It would be best to combine it or carbocisteine with ephedrine to maximize effectiveness.

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #36 on: 13/02/2004 01:25:50 »
You can buy medicines that have both Guaifenesin and ephedrine in them in your local drug store.  I can't think of any brand names off the top of my head.



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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #37 on: 13/02/2004 21:37:57 »
I haven't taken time to look yet.  Meanwhile the problem is persistent and seems to be getting worse (slowly).  I'm going to have to get with it sometime.


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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #38 on: 13/02/2004 22:02:02 »
John, I think it would take more than a few weeks to heal a problem like that.  Got some CoQ10 myself so I'll try it as well.  The top 4 supplements that my book recommends are CoQ10 (30 mg daily), manganese (10 mg daily), a multivitamin and mineral complex (for balanced nutrition) and potassium (99 mg daily).  My tinnitis gets worse if I'm tired, stressed, or at that "special time".  I've slacked off with my vitamin regimen lately and need to get back on the wagon.  Thanks for the feedback.
 

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #39 on: 14/02/2004 14:20:43 »
Cannabinoid, have you ruled out neurological problems?
I went through all the panic episodes through out my life.
I was dx with chiari malformation when I was 37. I had my 1st surgery in 98 and another on in 2002, Through a 3-D Ct it showed I had Spina Bifida Occulta at c2&3. Had a redo of the 1st surgery and my neck fused. Over the years of researching CM and related disorders, I was pretty amazed with nerves and muscles. And the brain too.
Last surgery helped for awhile now it is back worse than ever. My hearing has gotten worse to.
Mine sounds like the washing machine filling in the other room. I can't hear the phone ring unless I have it with me. Tv gets louder and louder. Ent Dr. says if it gets worse next year I will have to think of hearing aids. He said it would help with the tinnitus. I sure hope so because it can drive me nuts sometimes!

 

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #40 on: 15/02/2004 04:13:18 »
Donnah,
I'm taking CoQ10 150mg daily and the multivitamin, but have not been able to find a manganese supplement.  The multivitamin has some manganese in it.   I'm not taking extra potassium yet.  I'm going to keep after it.  

I'm still thinking that I may have some sort of low grade sinus infection.  I've been using a neti pot for a week now, and can't get anything to flow through.  I can breathe through my nose, but can't get the water to do anything.  

I need to get back on an exercise regimen.  I'm doing ok on the vitamins, but I've slacked way off on exercise and it is really getting me down.  I don't know if it'll help my ears.


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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #41 on: 15/02/2004 14:29:03 »
There are a number of us in the forum with tinnitis, so why don't we look for some sort of commonality?  

John, I have suspected some sort of low grade infection too.  My ears, particularly the right one (which is most affected by the tinnitis) are frequently itchy and the itch feels like it is both in front of and behind my eardrum.  Sometimes it feels like it's itchy in the middle of my head (very annoying, no scratching there).  Since rhinoplasty my sinuses have been constantly irritated and I've had two abcessed teeth (both teeth with roots that intrude into my sinus cavity).
 

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #42 on: 16/02/2004 01:42:54 »
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Ephedrine or any of its derivatives.  The bad news is it almost always requires LARGE amounts to clear up chronic ear congestion and this is not something you want to do by yourself without competent clinical supervision unless you have a death wish.



I have since come across what may be a safer decongestant to use in larger doeses.  It is called "synephrine" and does not act upon the heart or breathing channels as ephedrine does, just thermogenesis.  But why that would have anything to do with decongesting is beyond me.

Also, lobelia extract is another effective decongestant, mainly for the lungs.  It contains at least 10 different alkaloids.

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #43 on: 16/02/2004 07:57:06 »
OzzieMom:  I don't think anything is ruled out yet.  Something doesn't feel "right" in my head, almost like I can sense the brain chemistry is not quite where it needs to be, but I have a hard time really verbalizing the sensation.  The stuff I'm on right now covers it up and keeps symptoms from expressing, but I don't think it's a cure.  

I've been thinking about it more lately, though, and I have a hypothesis.  I have almost constant pain in my teeth from some wisdom teeth that aren't coming in quite right and several untreated cavities.  I've been too poor to go to the dentist, so I've just been dealing it with it.  I am starting to wonder if the stress of almost constant pain can affect mental state.  I don't consciously notice it so much except for when I'm having problems focusing.  The increased frequency in anxiety coincides with the progressively greater pain.  Something to think about anyway.  (On the bright side, I'm getting my teeth fixed in about a month!)

Either that or it's all the acid I took in my early 20's.

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #44 on: 16/02/2004 15:35:16 »
Ozzymom: Question ... why did you call yourself 'ozzie' if you're from the US? 'Oz' is a familiar term for Australia, and 'Ozzie' for Australian ....

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #45 on: 16/02/2004 16:25:12 »
2 answers. My maiden name was Osborne, and I live in a town called Ozark. No connection between the two. My father was from Ky. and my mom is from here.

Cannabinoid- have you ever seen the nerves that run around to your mouth? maybe when you get your teeth fixed some of the problem will ease!? Good luck.

 

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #46 on: 17/02/2004 03:52:09 »
Jay, the nerve that goes to your teeth is in the C2 and C3 region of your neck.  My chiropractor uses gentle percussion to adjust vertebrae and when he does those two disks there's pain in my teeth.  And I can tell you from experience that constant pain affects your mental state.  The pain also tends to make people clench their teeth which can cause muscles in your head, jaw and neck to spasm.  Try massaging the muscles that run vertically in front of and behind your ears.  You can also pull your ears away from your head.  Then rub the muscle over the spot where your jaw hinges.  You might be surprised at how painful that one can be.
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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #47 on: 17/02/2004 05:40:26 »
Donna, clinching teeth is a big problem of mine. I do it when I get out and I have to remind myself to loosen up! I was in a halo for 4 months.
I rub those spots alot!. I have been doing that for a long time. here is a link to a cranial nerve site I thought was neat.   newbielink:http://www.gwc.maricopa.edu/class/bio201/cn/cranial.htm [nonactive]
Here is another neat site.
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I have to see pictures to understand why things do what they do. All my muscles at the back of my head/neck are attached to a plate running across the whole back of my head. My muscles have atrophied and there is nothing I can do for it. Botox? Not quite ready for that. Don't care much for needles and more pain!
 

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« Reply #48 on: 18/02/2004 02:52:17 »
Pam, you are Wonderwoman!  A halo for four months would put me in the looney bin.  I had a neck brace for a few weeks.  Why don't you try visualization to reverse your muscle atrophy?  You've said yourself that you are a visual person.  Why did you have to get a plate put in?

I have a friend who is quadraplegic and gets terrible muscle spasms.  She goes a couple of times a year for botox injections and it helps her tremendously.  Is botox something your doctor has recommended?
 

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Re: What causes tinnitus?
« Reply #49 on: 18/02/2004 06:04:38 »
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I've been thinking about it more lately, though, and I have a hypothesis.  I have almost constant pain in my teeth from some wisdom teeth that aren't coming in quite right and several untreated cavities.  I've been too poor to go to the dentist, so I've just been dealing it with it.  I am starting to wonder if the stress of almost constant pain can affect mental state.  I don't consciously notice it so much except for when I'm having problems focusing.  The increased frequency in anxiety coincides with the progressively greater pain.  Something to think about anyway.  (On the bright side, I'm getting my teeth fixed in about a month!)



Sad to say, but when I had both of my wisdom teeth extracted, it did not get rid of the ear fluid and tinnitus.

If you suspect you have a sinus or dental infection, then you should take a course of roxithromycin (generic name) which is one of the safest antibiotics (commonly prescribed antibiotics are not) and especially effective for ENT problems.  It will not kill the good bacteria in your gut either.

Erythromycin (while less safe than roxithromycin) has a special affinity for stimulating inactive cilia in the Eustachian tubes.

Neither of the above helped me, but may help others.

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