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On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« on: 24/03/2015 10:58:19 »
I have a taste in my mouth of bitterness, not of hatred but a bitterness towards my wardens of the Earth.  Each and everyday most of the population follow their programming that the wardens enforce. The wardens do not enforce it by whips and chains, they enforce it by different means that may has well be whips and chains.
I live in a huge open prison, I am told where I can go and where I can not, I am told that unless I do some hard labour I will eat very little and be restricted to living a localised space.
Virtual walls surrounding me, not walls that are made of stone, but walls that are made of paper known as money.
Corporation Queen ants controlling the forced disciplines of the worker ants while the Queens sit in splendour owning a world that was meant to be equal.
There is no fruitfulness of the lands for free, even water has become a commodity like of the fresh fruit of our trees and the wondering of our cattle.
Corporate violations to Humanity owning that what was naturally meant to be free resources for each and every person on an equality level.
Corporate violations to humanity, generals of the Queen ants reaping the rewards from providing for the Queen ant ruling power, whilst the biggest percent of the worker ants still live in Sherwood forest knowing that their sticks and stones can not crush the might of the Queen ants armies.
Not even the power and facts of science can beat the Queen ants and their generals.
A fake reality disciplined by the Queen ants and all those who oppose feel the wrath from the pretend Gods of Earth.
It is not the pretend Gods whom have the power, it is each and everyone of us, we are the commodities and worth more than worthless gold or a diamond of no use.
It is our time the pretend Gods ''pay'' for, a payment they then exchange with us for freedom from our space and food and water.
The fake gods spend our time whilst they sit in splendour whilst passing their time.



You may ask what has this got to do with science or a new theory?


Well I trust science, I think science has the power to run for election and to become our new fake gods, but this time we would be assured they would use their knowledge for the greater cause and they know that equality and sustenance and the planet itself are the key features for survival.


P.s take note how the British government have made it hard for poor people to vote to assure one of the main parties remain in charge.
You can not vote unless you register on-line first, tell that to the homeless and the poor with no internet.

   













 



 

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Re: On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« Reply #1 on: 24/03/2015 11:34:15 »
There's a big difference between English law (which includes pretty much every statute originally written in English, such as US, Australian, Indian....) and Roman law (whcih applies to most of Europe.

Under English law the state exists to serve the citizen, so if it is decided (by representative debate, referendum, or whatever) that an action is harmful to most citizens, it is prohibited. Thus English law consists of a statement of wrongs. You have very few duties and you don't need rights because, for instance, killing another citizen is a wrong.

Under Roman law, the citizen exists to serve the state. The state decides what is permitted, and grants you certain rights. One man's right is another man's duty, so European laws tell you what to do, whereas English laws tell you what not to do.

The UK has begun to adopt laws derived from EU Directives, the very name of which gives the game away, and is intended to end a society in which the citizen is supreme.

The simplest example of the difference is in the Air Navigation Orders, which are required by the Montreal Convention to be reasonably universal, so you can overfly foreign territory without carrying a law library. In the UK they begin with "Flying is prohibited in certain areas." In Denmark they begin (admittedly in Danish) with "All flying is prohibited except in certain areas."  Subtle, but a grim foretaste of the future.
 

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Re: On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« Reply #2 on: 24/03/2015 13:18:49 »
You are only as free as your mind is. Imagination allows pseudo-experience of anything possible or not. And so far there are no laws (and no way of enforcing them) regarding what you can think.

I believe in the value of the "social contract." Sure, we have to refrain from raping and murdering and stealing (for the most part), but it also grants us the security from being raped, murdered or robbed by others (for the most part). Surely it is law that sets us apart from the natural order.
 

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Re: On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« Reply #3 on: 24/03/2015 18:15:04 »
It would be easy enough to make Internet access available at locations like libraries so that people can go there to register (and vote). Most libraries already provide free Internet access.

But where is democracy when you have to pay to stand for election (unless you get lots of votes and get the money back, but the media is against you getting heard, so that isn't likely to happen)? We don't have real democracy at all, but have to choose instead between a few troops of monkeys which offer us rotten packages of policies which make them all just about as bad as each other - that is not a real choice. We need to split government into different sectors and have different elections for each of them. I want to put party A in charge of the economy, party B in charge of running education, party C in charge of warfare and defence, party D in charge of power production, party E in charge of health, party F in charge of industry, etc. None of the existing parties are up to the task of running all of these things properly - they don't have the talent to do more than one of them, and even then they may struggle.

Ideally we should allow people to vote at any time they wish to on all issues, and whatever has the biggest support on any issue is what should be acted on, thereby eliminating the need for politicians altogether - we would only have a few political philosophers offering their advice. This could all be done over the Internet with the results being open to all so that you can see that your votes are really being included and that they are not being tampered with, although your real name needn't be shown. Such a system could be set up by an independent organisation to show what the government should be doing, thereby putting pressure on it to change things in the right direction, as well as making it easier for radical new policies to be noticed and adopted by mainstream parties.
 

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Re: On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« Reply #4 on: 24/03/2015 20:57:12 »
Call me elitist, but I think a republic is far more desirable than a pure democracy. Especially on the internet: Can you imagine politicians pandering to the "Reddit voter bloc"? History has plenty of examples of the majority making very poor decisions, or the majority voting for measures that work out very poorly for minorities (or are even designed to be harmful to specific minorities)

That said, both American and British type governmental structures are seriously flawed. I don't necessarily know how they should be improved, but they clearly ain't workin' perfectly...
 

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Re: On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« Reply #5 on: 24/03/2015 21:13:32 »
The majority can certainly make bad decisions, but minorities tend to make worse decisions overall, unless you weight them towards people of higher intelligence (which is partly why China has been economically successful recently). What matters with internet voting is that there shouldn't be an instant response by government to go along with the expressed wishes of the electorate there - a delay in the system would be required to try to educate them on the issue in question to make sure they really understand what it is they're asking for. That would prevent a biassed campaign leading to a rapid switch in public opinion and causing a change in actual government action if a proper campaign on the issue with all sides involved would shift opinion back the other way. Ultimately though, majorities do get their way on the big issues today, even when they're very wrong, and there's no cure for that within democracy. The only solution is to abandon democracy and run things by the dictates of logical reasoning systems applying computational morality - that is ultimately where things should go.
 

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Re: On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« Reply #6 on: 24/03/2015 21:28:35 »
There is things behind closed doors that I suppose do need to be kept behind closed doors.  The majority will always be left stranded and only the powerful will survive not that they are worth any more than us.

I do believe a new world order is on the agenda, I do observe science showing a catastrophic failure, sometimes I wish I was in government and high in the ranks.

Why does the World not tell China to sort out its heavy smog problem?

Do they not have aeroplanes that they can attach carbon filters to and fly through the smog cleaning the air?

Seems to me an obvious problem to fix and simply suck all the emissions back in and filter.
 

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Re: On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« Reply #7 on: 24/03/2015 23:18:47 »
Do they not have aeroplanes that they can attach carbon filters to and fly through the smog cleaning the air?

What altitude is this smog at? Why not just put the filters on buildings and avoid having planes making things even worse?

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Seems to me an obvious problem to fix and simply suck all the emissions back in and filter.

More obvious (and efficient) to put the filters in the places where the pollution is being emitted to stop it getting out in the first place. It just costs money, and they'd rather not spend it and just go on breathing in filth instead.
 

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Re: On the open prison Planet called Earth!
« Reply #8 on: 25/03/2015 08:24:02 »
Britain got rid of its smog problem by banning the domestic burning of unprocessed coal.
 

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