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The real theory of everything!
« on: 26/03/2015 00:25:55 »
The theory of everything – Part 1

The principle of science,  the test of all knowledge is experiment, experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth.”

Where does the  experiment idea originate from in the first place? The experiment itself helps us to produce  laws that we can add a quantifiable measurement too,  but also needed is imagination to create these experiments in the origination of the idea.  These great visualisations are to take a logical guess at the wonderful unique workings of a series of actions or steps taken in order to achieve a particular end.  A particular end aimed at finding a conclusion by experiment and unifying the process by the function of maths.

What is a theory of everything? The theory of everything  is to unify all universal processes into a single manifold, a collection of points forming a certain kind of set  of physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of the universe.  One may argue that a theory of everything is based on history so far and a theory of everything so far, as the future is not yet written.  One could also argue that a theory of everything is not possible because we simply do not know everything.

Why do we not know everything? You would think with the large amount of money spent on science research that science would know everything, however this is not the case and by no means is science to blame or can it be said that money buys discovery.  The scientist simply needs funding for equipment to proceed to experiment of the rational thought out assumptions made, that are  discussed with colleagues .  There is also a hinder-hence  of the universe is simply large relative to us, our observation range has boundaries and we can only guess and make assumptions of what? if anything? is beyond those boundaries, leaving unanswered questions without experimental facts and functional maths.


This took me ages to do, to be continued..............is it readable?


 

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« Reply #1 on: 26/03/2015 13:47:01 »
Part 1 - continued

If we have visual boundaries and do not know that what is there after these boundaries, does this relatively mean that religion as has much premise for argument with that which is there after?  Yes, as the present information of science stands and being limited by observation boundaries, no one can answer for a certainty what is out there beyond our limitation of an imaginary wall which marks the limits of a volume of space, a dividing line created by matter observation and trying to  put a shape  to an otherwise shapeless space.

How will it be possible to logically guess a theory of everything? To understand this, we would firstly need to be clear on our understanding of the definition of ''everything''.   The functional use of maths can only explain and express  process, maths can not explain ''everything'' on itself, maths does not explain us, maths can not explain the unseen.  To clearly understand ''everything'' is to look back in ''time'', to gather information and  to make a logical  judgement about the true value of something.  A fundamental breakdown of everything.  To ask questions of physical values and to consider values that do not physically exist , to fundamentally explore the universe looking to link all singularities into ''one big picture''.   To understand ''everything'' we need to know how things work, to understand universal ''laws'' and to make logical comparisons of axiom values to conclude the what's? and if's? of the unseen universe.  We also need to be sure of what we mean when we say ''universe'', a definition that describes all that is contained within our visual universal boundary, space and matter being defined presently by a single classification of a universe.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 26/03/2015 18:28:05 »
Part - 2

Where should one start with an exploration of everything looking for an explanation to everything? Firstly we must consider the aspects involved that are important when considering ''everything''.   We must take note of history and try to define reasoning from this. At what point in history do we first consider? Do we consider from the first funding of science in seventeenth century Prague? This would not be a good place to start with years that have past by before this!   We need to try to imagine the basis of our course taken in getting from a starting point to a destination , a situation where knowledge was limited to survival and religion played a powerful role.

What aspect should we consider first?   Firstly we should consider a starting point of science and  the derivation of religion and the creation parts of religion being possibly the first recorded information of Pseudo-science, a science based on imagination that had no definite proof's. Information that in the later years to follow  would be taken literally to be true and studied by science.  Most religions consist of a creation by a God, and before this creation nothing existed comparing to the Big Bang, religion created ''light'' in the early passages, different religions considered we are made of clay from the ground technically in agreement with that things are made of atoms.  Of cause after the creation parts, then the science fades and turns into  wild imagination with no logic involved. By no means is this the fault of religion, they were at a dead end in their thinking by limited means and stuck for answers beyond this.  A perspective view of the ''black background'' of space being in comparison to living in a cave.  A perspective view that still exists today that creates the illusion of a realm outside of our visual boundary for those who wish to believe this. This is not to say that outside of our boundaries there is nothing, and that there is no space for bio-geographical distribution.   We should also make a consideration that the universe is older than our existence on Earth and be in a sure agreement that anything that was a prequel to our existence will be an invention by thought unless experimentally proven to be.

Why do we  observe a ''black background'' of space?  One could argue that it is an experience created  by our limited means of observation,  experimental observation clearly shows that an object can be observed that is travelling away from us into  a space,  visually vanishes when it is at a distance past its vanishing point to observation, the same can be said for a light emitting source.  A simple experiment of a small pen torch gaining a greater distance away from us shows this to be physically true, the light from the pen torch will visual vanish the greater the distance the pen torch is moved away from us, eventually the dot of the light visually vanishes. We know the pen torch is still there but we also know it is now to small to observe relative to us from our observation position.  If we were to stop the pen torch moving away from us at a position of the vanishing point,  then we moved from our stationary observation point and approached the light, the light dot would then reappear.   Simple physics with no complexity or virtual walls.  One could also argue that an experimental observation of a single low wattage red light bulb ,a positioned central pendant in a vast expanse of a warehouse will observational allow you to see the virtual walls of darkness when observed from under the pendant, created by the absence of light magnitude inhibiting  a visual effect on the surrounding warehouse walls.  You will observe a ''black background'' of space and have no idea of what is in or of the darkness such as perceived distance or objects.

What does present information suggest about the ''black background'' of space?
Present information suggests a prequel to our existence of a ''Big Bang'', it is said that this is evidentially proven by the cosmological red shift and an expanding Universe and the cosmic background microwave radiation.  It is explained that from a singular point the big bang happened and that this created the entire universe and all things in it.  It is said before the ''big bang'' that nothing existed , not even space and not even 'time'. It is also said that space itself is also expanding, and beyond this space, ''the black background'', nothing exists.
 

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Re: The real theory of everything!
« Reply #3 on: 26/03/2015 18:37:05 »
Why don't you start with something less ambitious, like a theory of something rather than trying to cover everything at once? So far, your ideas have either conflicted with reason or with experiment, thereby showing them to be wrong in one way or another. You should go back to focusing on something specific to see if you can say anything useful about it. For example, one of your claims (in another thread) is that empty space doesn't do time. However, anything that doesn't do time can't exist at all, so any region of empty space would simply cease to be anything and the rest of space would instantly close up to fill the void. Space cannot be nothing - it must be made of something which maintains separations between things around it. In the light of discovering that one of your key claims doesn't work, you should be rethinking your great work on a theory of everything to take into account the error in its foundations, but instead of doing that you're just pressing ahead regardless with something that can only be faulty. You will soon reach the point where no one bothers to read anything else you post because they will have lost the little hope they're clinging to that you might be able to make progress by dismantling the mess that is the fault-ridden model of reality that you've built in your head. It doesn't look to me as if you're going to make it though.

As I tried to post this, another chapter appeared. I seriously don't think anyone's going to want to read your book here given your previous display of knowledge and reasoning. What you should do is exploit Amazon Unlimited instead - they have a daft system where they reward people for writing short books as they pay them whenever someone has flipped through 10% of the pages. If your book is 30 pages long and someone downloads it for free and flips through the first three pages, you could earn a dollar. All you need's a title to hook them in and you can make a lot of money without having to offer any useful content. By doing this, you can help push them into changing their system so that real writers are rewarded instead, so it isn't immoral to do this.
 

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Re: The real theory of everything!
« Reply #4 on: 26/03/2015 23:54:01 »
The theory of everything part -3

If space itself is also expanding, and beyond this space, ”the black background”, nothing exists, what is the expanding space, expanding into?
  Science does not observe an actual expansion of space itself.   All cosmological observations are based on the observations of objects.  All objects are observed through the clarity of space.  One could make an argument that  space is not expanding and it is simply a distance increase of an object, from the observers relative point of observation, an object travelling through space and into more space.  The cosmological red shift is based on an objects direction and light and not based on actual space. In context of this, there is no apparent evidence to suggest that space itself is expanding or has a finite structure. Space that does not contain visible matter has a clarity that is more see through than clear glass.  For this very reason space itself is unobservable and  we observe only matter that interacts with light or emits light in space.  One could also argue that all experimental observations on earth of anything that is expanding , observes that anything that is expanding, needs empty space to expand into.  This acceptance of Earthly physical experimental observation contradicts that there is  no space beyond  the last matter observed in  space.

Science suggest there is nothing after this boundary, is that not similar to a flat Earth theory and suggesting we either fall off the edge of space or bump into this imaginary wall if we travelled there? 
Simply yes.

How can we have any certainty the universe is not finite and instead infinite?  Sometimes there is logical factors that can not be simply ignored. A single answer explains this and is the only answer possible of an axiom value with no  other logical options available.   Infinite is without end or limit or boundary, this can be thought of in a simple logical thought experiment.  At the present moment in time I presume you are indoors, you can clearly see your walls that enclose a volume of space that you are within.  Outside of these walls you know that space exists and can observe space exists.  You can clearly see that outside of the walls that space exists all the way to the ”black background” of space. There is a choice that only gives one answer, of what is beyond the boundary, we either live within a visual space within a space or we live inside a visual space within a solid which is within a space. There is no other physical possibilities or options and it is for a certainty that we can fit a smaller box into a larger box for a limitless amount of times.
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Re: The real theory of everything!
« Reply #5 on: 26/03/2015 23:59:11 »
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Why don't you start with something less ambitious, like a theory of something ...
I suggest that we don't lead him down the garden path. We should do our best to convince him that he should obtain a strong education in both physics and the philosophy of physics. As Fritz Rohrlich wrote ignoring philosophy in physics means not understanding physics. If he wants to be really good then he should, and could if he worked hard enough, sit down with a math text and a physics text and go at it. Stick your nose in those books and come up only for air or food until you've finished. We'll be here to help, I promise him that. But he has to stop thinking that he's able to create a solid theory that will become anything or something that could be published. That won't happen. Of course he can prove me wrong and do try to it with one of his so-called "Theories".

TB - Do you want to become good at physics or do you want to post your new theories here and that's all?
 

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« Reply #6 on: 27/03/2015 00:11:40 »
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Why don't you start with something less ambitious, like a theory of something ...
I suggest that we don't lead him down the garden path. We should do our best to convince him that he should obtain a strong education in both physics and the philosophy of physics. As Fritz Rohrlich wrote ignoring philosophy in physics means not understanding physics. If he wants to be really good then he should, and could if he worked hard enough, sit down with a math text and a physics text and go at it. Stick your nose in those books and come up only for air or food until you've finished. We'll be here to help, I promise him that. But he has to stop thinking that he's able to create a solid theory that will become anything or something that could be published. That won't happen. Of course he can prove me wrong and do try to it with one of his so-called "Theories".

TB - Do you want to become good at physics or do you want to post your new theories here and that's all?

Maybe I have become good at Physics, not the best, but also I am happy to just share my ideas here.  I really think by time
I have wrote all my theory it will open up a few eyes to the truths.

I will never get believed even if I studied even harder. 
 

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« Reply #7 on: 27/03/2015 00:13:30 »
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If space itself is also expanding, and beyond this space, ”the black background”, nothing exists, what is the expanding space, expanding into?
A common misconception. As space expands its more or less getting larger (sort of "stretching") and in the process creating more space as it goes.

Think of the space of the universe as residing on the surface of a balloon. The universe is then analogous to the balloon blowing up and its surface stretching. Mind you that nothing exists off the surface. The center of the balloon which is inside the sphere at its center is not on the surface so its not part of the universe. So keep in mind that everything in the universe resides only on the surface of the balloon.

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One could make an argument that  space is not expanding and it is simply a distance increase of an object, from the observers relative point of observation, an object travelling through space and into more space.
You do realize, don't you, that cosmologists are well aware of such a trivial explanation. However when we look through our telescopes we see all other galaxies moving away from our own galaxy. If its actually the distance between us and the moving object that is increasing then you have to explain why all objects are moving away from our galaxy. I.e. what is so special about our galaxy so that all galaxies are moving away from it? This is in contradiction to something called The Cosmological Principle which states the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_principle. In modern physical cosmology, the cosmological principle is the notion that the distribution of matter in the Universe is homogeneous and isotropic when viewed on a large enough scale, since the forces are expected to act uniformly throughout the Universe, and should, therefore, produce no observable irregularities in the large scale structuring over the course of evolution of the matter field that was initially laid down by the Big Bang.
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Your proposal is in contradiction to the cosmological principle. Then there's Hubble's law which states that the recession velocity of all galaxies is proportional to the distance to the galaxy. This means, i.e. for this to be true that, all galaxies are moving away from all other galaxies.
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« Reply #8 on: 27/03/2015 00:20:10 »
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Maybe I have become good at Physics, not the best, but also I am happy to just share my ideas here.
I'm sorry TB but I need to tell you like it is. I don't want to lie to you. But I don't want to hide the truth from you either.  I see no evidence of you having become good in physics. I actually can't even tell if you understand physics at all. And you're not working according to the scientific method either.
 

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« Reply #9 on: 27/03/2015 00:30:57 »

A common misconception. As space expands its more or less getting larger (sort of "stretching") and in the process creating more space as it goes.

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A misconception by science, the galaxies moving away from us are no different than you walking away from me. 

Think of the space of the universe as residing on the surface of a balloon. The universe is then analogous to the balloon blowing up and its surface stretching. Mind you that nothing exists off the surface. The center of the balloon which is inside the sphere at its center is not on the surface so its not part of the universe. So keep in mind that everything in the universe resides only on the surface of the balloon.

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the balloon needs space to expand into


You do realize, don't you, that cosmologists are well aware of such a trivial explanation. However when we look through our telescopes we see all other galaxies moving away from our own galaxy. If its actually the distance between us and the moving object that is increasing then you have to explain why all objects are moving away from our galaxy. I.e. what is so special about our galaxy so that all galaxies are moving away from it? This is in contradiction to something called The Cosmological Principle which states the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_principle. In modern physical cosmology, the cosmological principle is the notion that the distribution of matter in the Universe is homogeneous and isotropic when viewed on a large enough scale, since the forces are expected to act uniformly throughout the Universe, and should, therefore, produce no observable irregularities in the large scale structuring over the course of evolution of the matter field that was initially laid down by the Big Bang.

Your proposal is in contradiction to the cosmological principle. Then there's Hubble's law which states that the recession velocity of all galaxies is proportional to the distance to the galaxy. This means, i.e. for this to be true that, all galaxies are moving away from all other galaxies.

A positive entropy galaxy moving away from a positive entropy galaxy is not a surprise.

 ''I.e. what is so special about our galaxy so that all galaxies are moving away from it?''

What is so special about our galaxy why we did not expand with the rest?
 

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« Reply #10 on: 27/03/2015 00:36:25 »
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Maybe I have become good at Physics, not the best, but also I am happy to just share my ideas here.
I'm sorry TB but I need to tell you like it is. I don't want to lie to you. But I don't want to hide the truth from you either.  I see no evidence of you having become good in physics. I actually can't even tell if you understand physics at all. And you're not working according to the scientific method either.

Yes my theory so far obvious shows I do not know what I am talking about.  Of cause I understand. What is your aim here?

to try to prevent me writing it?

 

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« Reply #11 on: 27/03/2015 00:42:40 »
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A positive entropy galaxy moving away from a positive entropy galaxy is not a surprise.
It's comments exactly like this that don't make sense to the rest of us. What does the entropy of a galaxy have to do with anything related to this thread or the subject matter?????

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''I.e. what is so special about our galaxy so that all galaxies are moving away from it?''

What is so special about our galaxy why we did not expand with the rest?
You didn't answer my question. Why do you think other galaxies are expanding? It's the universe that is expanding, not the galaxies. The gravitational force overcomes the force of expansion because the force of expansion is so small as to be immeasurable and therefore cannot have any effect of any galaxy.
 

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« Reply #12 on: 27/03/2015 00:54:33 »
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Yes my theory so far obvious shows I do not know what I am talking about.  Of cause I understand. What is your aim here?

to try to prevent me writing it?
Why on Earth would you say that I'm trying to "prevent" you from writing it? What kind of way is that to respond to someone who is honestly trying to help you? I'm not a Nazi who goes around trying to stop people from doing things that I don't like.

Let me ask you something. What do you think we should do when we read these theories of yours? In my case with the understanding that I'm a professional physicist. For example: If I see you make a mistake of I can't understand what you're saying, what do you think I should do about it? Do you think I should ignore it and leave you alone and enjoy nobody making any corrections to your work (assuming I could convince others to do that for whatever reason)?

When you answer that please keep in mind the scientific method which states the following which was stated by American Association of Physics Teachers:
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Science is the systematic enterprise of gathering knowledge about the world and organizing and condensing that knowledge into testable laws and theories. The success and credibility of science is anchored in the willingness of scientists to:

1) expose their ideas and results to independent testing and replication by other scientists; this requires the complete and open exchange of data, procedures and materials;

2) abandon or modify accepted conclusions when confronted with more complete or reliable experimental evidence.

Adherence to these principles provides a mechanism for self-correction that is the foundation of the credibility of science.
That's from the journal The American Journal of Physics, Volume 67(8), August 1999

We're here to discuss new ideas, right? What does that consist of?
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« Reply #13 on: 27/03/2015 00:55:40 »
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A positive entropy galaxy moving away from a positive entropy galaxy is not a surprise.
It's comments exactly like this that don't make sense to the rest of us. What does the entropy of a galaxy have to do with anything related to this thread or the subject matter?????

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''I.e. what is so special about our galaxy so that all galaxies are moving away from it?''

What is so special about our galaxy why we did not expand with the rest?
You didn't answer my question. Why do you think other galaxies are expanding? It's the universe that is expanding, not the galaxies. The gravitational force overcomes the force of expansion because the force of expansion is so small as to be immeasurable and therefore cannot have any effect of any galaxy.

The galaxies are not expanding, the Universe is not expanding, the  galaxies are moving away from us, giving us an expanded view of space by there been an imaginary balloon surface by using points of observation,  the balloon surface does not exist.
I personally think they are moving away from us because of galaxy entropy and or they are beyond the event horizon and are been repelled by a centrifugal energy vortex ,

 

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« Reply #14 on: 27/03/2015 01:01:38 »
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Yes my theory so far obvious shows I do not know what I am talking about.  Of cause I understand. What is your aim here?

to try to prevent me writing it?
Why on Earth would you say that I'm trying to "prevent" you from writing it? What kind of way is that to respond to someone who is honestly trying to help you? I'm not a Nazi who goes around trying to stop people from doing things that I don't like.

Let me ask you something. What do you think we should do when we read these theories of yours? In my case with the understanding that I'm a professional physicist. For example: If I see you make a mistake of I can't understand what you're saying, what do you think I should do about it? Do you think I should ignore it and leave you alone and enjoy nobody making any corrections to your work (assuming I could convince others to do that for whatever reason)?

My apologies 4 years of harsh forum times have had its toll on my thoughts, I was always on the receiving end and this has made me defensive in nature, I applaud you for calling it work,

Yes I understand it is to be criticized. Point taken I will try harder not to be so defensive,
 

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« Reply #15 on: 27/03/2015 01:05:38 »
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The galaxies are not expanding, the Universe is not expanding, the  galaxies are moving away from us, giving us an expanded view of space by there been an imaginary balloon surface by using points of observation,  the balloon surface does not exist.
I personally think they are moving away from us because of galaxy entropy and or they are beyond the event horizon and are been repelled by a centrifugal energy vortex ,
There you go again. Its comments like this that make you irritating to talk to. I though you were just starting to be reasonable and then you go off the deep end yet once again! You're once again back to making unfounded claims with no argument to back up them up, especially after I already shot them down.

You still haven't answered my question about what the entropy of the galaxies have to do with anything. You're claims are worthless if you're not willing to support them with a proof of your assertions.

By the way. The balloon thing was merely an analogy of the real physics to help you understand the real physics at hand.
 

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« Reply #16 on: 27/03/2015 01:08:35 »
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My apologies 4 years of harsh forum times have had its toll on my thoughts, I was always on the receiving end and this has made me defensive in nature, I applaud you for calling it work,

Yes I understand it is to be criticized. Point taken I will try harder not to be so defensive,
Thank you for the apology. Apology accepted. :)

I can very well understand how something like that can make you defensive.

You have a problem here that you're ignoring. From:
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abandon or modify accepted conclusions when confronted with more complete or reliable experimental evidence.
It doesn't appear to me that you're meeting this requirement.
 

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« Reply #17 on: 27/03/2015 01:17:10 »
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My apologies 4 years of harsh forum times have had its toll on my thoughts, I was always on the receiving end and this has made me defensive in nature, I applaud you for calling it work,

Yes I understand it is to be criticized. Point taken I will try harder not to be so defensive,
Thank you for the apology. Apology accepted. :)

I can very well understand how something like that can make you defensive.

You have a problem here that you're ignoring. From:
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abandon or modify accepted conclusions when confronted with more complete or reliable experimental evidence.
It doesn't appear to me that you're meeting this requirement.

~2! abandon or modify accepted conclusions
when confronted with more complete or reliable
experimental evidence.

No evidence has been provided in any science that suggests we can observe space doing anything. We can observe matter moving through space and doing something,

I am happy to abandon all conclusions if the evidence is logically good, has yet I see no evidence to justify abandoning my ideas.  I have not said there was not a big bang, I am simply stating that all the explanation is not possibly true. My theory so far shows this.
I have time to do yet and lots more , I probably need about 50 parts before I explain a conclusion.

a quote from part 2 - One could also argue that an experimental observation of a single low wattage red light bulb ,a positioned central pendant in a vast expanse of a warehouse will observational allow you to see the virtual walls of darkness when observed from under the pendant, created by the absence of light magnitude inhibiting  a visual effect on the surrounding warehouse walls.  You will observe a ''black background'' of space and have no idea of what is in or of the darkness such as perceived distance or objects.

This is experimentally true.
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« Reply #18 on: 27/03/2015 01:33:15 »
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~2! abandon or modify accepted conclusions
when confronted with more complete or reliable
experimental evidence.
The experimental evidence is not what you claimed that it was, i.e. you asserted the notion that all galaxies are moving away from ours. However observations tell us that this is not true. The cosmological redshift and Hubble's law tells us that.

You're also ignoring the General Theory of Relativity (GR) because that's what we're using here. Physicists don't merely develop theories and then toss them away when they're finish. No sir! We use then use them! And that's what cosmology is doing, i.e. using GR to explain what is going on in the universe.

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No evidence has been provided in any science that suggests we can observe space doing anything.
That's not quite true. We have observational evidence that GR is a correct theory about the universe, the nature of matter and the structure of spacetime. It's been tested repeatedly over and over again with remarkable success. So it's for that reason that we rely on it as a correct theory, at least to the limits of observational evidence that we have today. So we use that theory to explain what we observe and the observations tell us, through GR, that it's space itself that is expanding. That's what is known as indirect evidence.

So please keep in mind that physicists don't just think up theories and that's all we do. We also use them too. And that's what we're doing with GR and cosmology.

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I am happy to abandon all conclusions if the evidence is logically good, has yet I see no evidence to justify abandoning my ideas.
I hope so.

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  I have not said there was not a big bang, I am simply stating that all the explanation is not possibly true. My theory so far shows this.
Not really.

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I have time to do and lots more ,  probably need about 50 parts before i explain a conclusion.

I have to eat now. More later.
 

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« Reply #19 on: 27/03/2015 01:49:43 »
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~2! abandon or modify accepted conclusions
when confronted with more complete or reliable
experimental evidence.
The experimental evidence is not what you claimed that it was, i.e. you asserted the notion that all galaxies are moving away from ours. However observations tell us that this is not true. The cosmological redshift and Hubble's law tells us that.

You're also ignoring the General Theory of Relativity (GR) because that's what we're using here. Physicists don't merely develop theories and then toss them away when they're finish. No sir! We use then use them! And that's what cosmology is doing, i.e. using GR to explain what is going on in the universe.

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No evidence has been provided in any science that suggests we can observe space doing anything.
That's not quite true. We have observational evidence that GR is a correct theory about the universe, the nature of matter and the structure of spacetime. It's been tested repeatedly over and over again with remarkable success. So it's for that reason that we rely on it as a correct theory, at least to the limits of observational evidence that we have today. So we use that theory to explain what we observe and the observations tell us, through GR, that it's space itself that is expanding. That's what is known as indirect evidence.

So please keep in mind that physicists don't just think up theories and that's all we do. We also use them too. And that's what we're doing with GR and cosmology.

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I am happy to abandon all conclusions if the evidence is logically good, has yet I see no evidence to justify abandoning my ideas.
I hope so.

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  I have not said there was not a big bang, I am simply stating that all the explanation is not possibly true. My theory so far shows this.
Not really.

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I have time to do and lots more ,  probably need about 50 parts before i explain a conclusion.

I have to eat now. More later.

Thank you for the post , I am going bed now myself.   

I will leave you with this, I think there may be a confusion, over actual definition.

Object A and object B are 10m apart, object A and object B also have 10m of space either side of them.

In total a 30m distance,

Object A travels left towards object B, closing the gap of space to 2m from object B. 

The total distance of space remains 30m.

Object A then travels right increasing the gap of space from B to 15m. 

The total distance of space remains 30m.

The distance of space between A and B, firstly contracts and then expands,  but not the total distance of space that remains at 30m in either situation.

So can you not see that space does not expand or contract?

----------A----------B------------

-----------------A----B-----------

A--------------------------------B

It is just a length of space increase





 

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« Reply #20 on: 27/03/2015 02:11:17 »
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So can you not see that space does not expand or contract?
Nope. Confusing again, as usual.
 

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So can you not see that space does not expand or contract?
Nope. Confusing again, as usual.

How is that confusing?  science says space itself is expanding, a similarity to a balloons surface expanding,

So if you imagine a balloon and put dots on the balloon to represent objects, and then burst the balloon leaving the dots in position that is how it is.  Not space expanding, objects moving a greater distance of space away from us and each other.
 

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« Reply #22 on: 27/03/2015 16:12:25 »
The theory of everything – part 4

Important to the matter at hand is our understanding of what the ”black background” of space is when considering the concept of honesty and the reality of physical aspects.  To  presume something is not to prove something but will allow us understanding in the aim of discovering of what ”everything” is about.  We should take consideration for the first aspect of fundamental attributes in the later stages of conclusion.

What other aspects and attributes should we consider when considering a unification?  We need to consider and question what space itself contains?   Experimental observation shows clearly that space contains living things, planets, stars, galaxies, dust clouds, light, motion and even a suggested space-time.  The Universe contains billions of galaxies, each containing millions or billions of stars.   The Universe also contains unseen by the eye attributes such as gravity mechanism , energy, forces, cosmic background microwaves and some of the electromagnetic radiation frequencies, although experimentally by device some of these attributes can be detected.

Where can we start in presenting a theory of everything with so many attributes to consider?
  One can assume with firm conviction that something is the case, that we can categorise the universe into two categories. An observed Universe and the unseen Universe, where as in one  or both of these categories is the answers to ”everything”.
 

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« Reply #23 on: 27/03/2015 16:33:52 »
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How is that confusing?  science says space itself is expanding, a similarity to a balloons surface expanding,
Because you never explained that the line wraps around. Just because cosmologists often use the balloon analogy of an expanding universe it doesn't imply that there aren't other analogies. The balloon analogy represents a closed universe only.

And your example doesn't prove anything at all. The balloon analogy as it is used by cosmologists is used to represent the situation where the distance between ALL objects is increasing. That's not what you have represented. What you have is merely objects moving around on the surface of the balloon. The only way for all objects to move away from all other objects is for the surface area of the balloon to increase.

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So if you imagine a balloon and put dots on the balloon to represent objects, and then burst the balloon ...
What??? Why? What does bursting the balloon represent physically? You can't burst space so your comment again makes no sense.

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leaving the dots in position that is how it is.
What is this supposed to represent physically?

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Not space expanding, objects moving a greater distance of space away from us and each other.
Wrong again.

This is what I mean by you can't understand all of this. You don't have enough experience to start making theories because your understanding of basic physics is horrible. First learn physics. They perhaps you can try to change it. Although there is no reason to do that. So far it appears that you merely don't like the idea of an expanding universe so you're looking for ways for it to be wrong. It's not. I can promise you that, i.e. there are no mistakes in the way that you think there are. You've been acting very arrogant by giving so little credit to such a large crowd of brilliant physicists who've made sure by ongoing efforts to weed out all problems. For some reason you think they all made the same mistakes? Nope.
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« Reply #24 on: 27/03/2015 17:54:13 »
I made a comment in another of your threads about the cosmic microwave background which was intended to test your understanding of the expansion of the universe. You clearly didn't get the point, so I just gave up on you at that point. However, I'll give you another go. What do you imagine is generating these microwaves that are coming in from all directions? They are consistent with there being an explosion in a highly-contracted space fabric where they would originally have been emitted as light, and that space fabric has subsequently expanded in such a way that the frequency has reduced to microwaves. The way they behave (coming at us continually from all directions) is also consistent with that model. If you accept that there was some kind of big bang but you want to have a space that's infinite from the start, you're going to have a serious problem to address - the light that was emitted from that explosion would race away from there to infinity and none of the galaxies created out of that explosion would be receiving any light or microwaves from that explosion today, and indeed they would never have received any of it at all. So, where are the microwaves that we detect coming from? You don't have an expansion to reduce their frequency, so you need to have a microwave emitter spread out of sight all round the edge of the visible universe, and if we can detect the frequency falling over time you're going to have to account for that too without relying on any expansion, and then you would have to explain why this source of microwaves should be a distant sphere centred around us. You're also going to have to find a way to explain the slight differences in intensity of the cosmic microwave background which are consistent with a lumpiness that led to the formation of galaxies - you need your monster-spherical microwave generating machine to create them in a very slightly lumpy way too. So, good luck with doing that - you may hit upon the right answer, but you should understand that you're up against an amazing coincidence in that the evidence fits beautifully with the idea of a big bang (not necessarily from an absolute singularity) with a very compact space fabric which then expanded - it's a simple, short burst of light coming out of a single explosion which ends up as a continual microwave shower through every point in the universe from all directions billions of years later. It's almost certainly too good not to be true. It may not be true though, but you're up against astronomical odds, and you need to understand that before you waste any more of your time attacking it.
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