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Offline Dex

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #25 on: 26/02/2013 02:54:50 »
I realize this is an old thread, but I may have an answer to people who have new allergies to chicken and turkey as my 23 year old son developed these in the last couple of years. We did our research, and, it turns out it was related to the new method of sanitizing poultry and preparing it for display.  Poultry used to be sanitized for salmonella by dipping it in an ammonia wash.  In the last few years, a sodium phosphate wash has become a more popular choice.  There are some who are allergic or sensitive to phosphates. Some will get a skin reaction, sore stomach, and for my son, migraine symptoms.  If you know the source of your poultry and how they wash it, this may be an answer if you want to eat it. As well, producers often plump up chicken parts with this sodium solution (sometimes listed as natural flavour). This makes the chicken more tender, adds weight and makes the chicken look more plump and appealing.  In the US, companies are supposed to legally list that they've enhanced the chicken meat.  An LA Times article noted that producers also enhance pork and beef with a saline solution.  Scallops in the supermarket are all enhanced with sodium phosphates otherwise they would spoil by the time they get to market. Be careful if the label lists natural flavors, as sodium phosphate is considered a natural product and remain hidden under this umbrella label.  My son can eat chicken parts that aren't plumped, but has to stay away from turkey or whole birds. Phosphates are also being added to many prepared foods, so if you feel ill after some meals, this could be the reason.  For those with a severe reaction, phosphate allergy is a true allergy, and medicines containing phosphates need to be avoided. It's really terrible how many additives are being used in our food supply! We're getting back to basics in cooking only fresh ingredients, but now have to watch for this enhanced meat.  As an aside to this poultry discussion,  one recent discovery was how baby carrots are prepared; seemingly healthy, but they are regular carrots shaved down to look small and then dipped in ammonia to prevent spoilage!  One other comment, if you ever feel sick drinking tap water, the added  fluoride is a byproduct of phosphate production, and for some, even in its small amounts, can cause stomach pain. Best of luck discovering what you can eat! We definitely need to shift our food supply away from using all these additives!  We're ending up with a generation of people getting sick for the sake of company profit with extended shelf life instead of a strong generation.           
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #26 on: 31/05/2013 18:44:12 »
My daughter was 23 when she was hit with all kinds of allergic problems.  We had to investigate on our own and figure out what could possibly be happening to her.  She was reacting to everything around her.  Her worst reaction was to polyethylene glycol (anaphylactic response) which is in almost everything.   We ended up going to an environmental doctor in Dallas that truly saved her life.  She is about to be 25 and after 2 years of treatment, she is much improved.  Many of the foods that she was allergic to, she no longer is.  This doctor believes in finding the underlying cause to what the outward symptoms are.  Just like the post about the food being dipped in ammonia.  That could really be the culprit and not chicken itself.  Good news is, this doctor, with his treatment protocol, has allowed my daughter to be in the world. It has taken 2 years, and she is still not completely well, but the reactions she used to have are few and far between.  She hardly ever is anaphylactic anymore.  If anyone would like more information on this, I'd be happy to share it with you.  This doctor is a board certified Cardiovascular surgeon that himself became environmentally ill.  He has been practicing environmental medicine since 1974.  He saved my daughter's life.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #27 on: 28/06/2013 04:24:33 »
Good Information in the last few posts.

I wish I could say that this was a solution in my case.  My allergies date back to the 80s and the testing done by my allergist confirms that Poultry proteins contain the allergen.

Interesting post about the PG (propylene glycol), this is an ingredient used in SO many items in a grocery store.  It is also one of the options used to create liquid for electronic cigarettes.  There are a lot of people who use these smoking alternatives (known as vapers) who discover that they have been allergic to PG by using an electronic cigarette.  There are alternatives to PG, the most common is VG or vegetable glycerin.  Note that these ingredients are food safe and classified as GRAS (Generally Regarded As Safe) by the FDA.

There are a great number of undiscovered allergies and new ones popping up.  I find the allergy world fascinating, probably because I am directly effected by it.

Let's all remember we are not alone.  Us label readers (as my family and friends call me) are being joined every year by new dieters and folks with disorders that require special diets.

Stay strong.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #28 on: 29/06/2013 06:24:46 »
Hello,
Yes it happens with some people also with my father feels it. They just stopped eating chicken ...
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #29 on: 21/08/2013 01:44:03 »
hi guys. a few answers and a question. my son has allergies to egg and chicken, 1 below hives from contact. im wondering how closely related turkey is as we had is7ue7 with dairy and soy when younger. my 10.5 month old is having there facial swellings, throat closures with breathing AND the sunburn reaction jason described. this is a product of hives. 1 in 4 people with chronic urticaria suffer it, 3 in this family, its called angioedema and it 2N be, but is rarely life threatening and requiring of adrenaline.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #30 on: 20/10/2013 08:47:59 »
Hi everyone, I am a 31 year old male.  I started to notice around 5 or 6 that poultry would give me tightness in my chest narrowing of my breathing passages and drooling saliva.  At first I just said I don't like it cause it would make me feel this way, which as others have stated, I was ignored like "kids say the darnedest things" I mean who's allergic to chicken.  I remember when my Mom and step dad, even at this early age, would pick up a box of hot fried chicken just the vapor in the car would aggravate my breathing.

Then maybe around 8 years old I was at a local salad bar loading up my plate with all the fixings and what I thought was ham and if you asked anyone they would say "yeah that's ham" but in fact its turkey ham.  Around 11:30 - 12:30 I woke up and called out to my Mom to tell her my light was on, she came in my room and looked at me and her facial expression is still horridly vivid.  My lips and mouth and eyes were swollen up so bad, they rushed me to the ER.  The ER physician asked what have you had to eat, I told him salad.  To be sure they would cover a broad spectrum of allergens I was given 6 shots, epinephrine, Benadryl,  and many other antihistamines.  The doctor said when your outside starts swelling to that extent your insides ie: airways are already blocked luckily, I was still able to breath about 10- 20%. The ER physician said if I had not woke up, my parents would of found a dead son the next morning, this of course scared my parents. 

My Mom set up allergy testing (skin pricks) with a local doctor, he tested me for chicken, turkey, eggs and a few other more common allergens.  My skin within minutes bulged up where the chicken and turkey was but not eggs.  Finally confirmation I was allergic to poultry.  My parents were divorced and my Dad's side of the family, uncle/aunt, grandparents, still said "Oh you can eat chicken" and I would stand my ground and yell "No I can not!!!!!"  This has made me seem like a trouble maker, had to turn down many a offer to "stay for dinner", even if I didn't see the bird, I would ask what broth is in the soup oh chicken sorry.  Or most time to avoid a long drawn out explanation I will just say no thanks, many times starving to death..

 I have to check labels for chicken fat, broth, base, powder, mechanically separated chicken, chicken parts, and you would not believe all the foods that have these things in them, even at first glance you would say, "no way this cheese ravioli has any form of chicken in it" then you check the label and there it is chicken fat...just an example, believe me there are many more, way to many to list.

I thought at a Chinese restaurant one night I'll try the duck, bad call, got wings, poultry = I'm allergic. Flying in an airplane from Orlando to Washington D. C., they offered a ham sandwich, by this time I was wary about anything that I could not physically look at the label, so as not to be any trouble I ate this "ham sandwich" instantly I knew this was not ham.  I had to wait three hours in flight drooling in a coup, beating on my chest, which sometime kinda relieves the tightness, to get to D. C. my dad rushed to the car rental place, got a car, and asked them where the closest pharmacy is.  We drove through D. C. with my head out the window like a dog with a steady stream of saliva pouring out of my mouth to the pharmacy, got some Benadryl I took 4 within about 30 minutes my symptoms began to improve and I began to fall asleep.  Probably could of had a law suit against the airline.  We have learned if going anywhere, car ride, flight, to take Benadryl along.

Many other times at restaurants I will ask what something is made with, I have grown to know the culprits, the waitress either looks at me like I'm crazy or in a not so sure voice says oh no there's no chicken stock in that.  I order something else. Most waitstaff have no idea how the food is prepared, most of the time I order something else or If I really want it I will say "Go ask the cook!"

Even though this is pretty long, its just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to my fight with my poultry allergy.
I now am married with a three year old son of my own, who can thankfully eat and loves to eat chicken.  My wife sometimes slips and says you want to try this or do you like turkey; then she realizes.  I know it's not common, my poultry allergy, which makes it that much harder to explain to people.  I am glad I found this thread cause I am sure you guys can relate to some if not all of it.

And yes the first thing people say is "what do you eat on Thanksgiving" the answer is ham, like i am sure it is the same for most of you all...

Hopefully one day i will be able to eat poultry, but I'm not holding my breath.
« Last Edit: 20/10/2013 09:14:50 by FLguyAllergicToPoultry »
 

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Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #31 on: 16/12/2013 18:48:15 »
My son has poultry allergy with burning tongue & throat and anaphylactic response.  He does not consume turkey or chicken (or even duck), and he reads all ingredient panels.

I'll have him read this forum! There is a lot of good info on here. 
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #32 on: 25/12/2013 05:41:30 »
I'm also allergic to poultry. Reading some of these posts is like reading my life story. I could eat chicken and turkey till I was around 10-11yrs old, then the chest pains, shortness of breath, severe swelling systems started. That was 25yrs ago. I've mostly just avoided it as much as possible, but of course that's not an easy task. I have had some severe run ins that sent me to the ER. Most times massive dosses of Benadryl will do the trick. It takes me a couple of days to fully recover now-a-days.
Of course people are bewildered by a person who is allergic to poultry. Some find it hard to believe, many of poked fun over the years. "chickenman" I've been called. The worse part is when you try to inquire of the ingredients, and the server blindly says "no it's not poultry" without even checking. To which I order a burger and fries as usual. Sounds tasty, but they get old.
Yesterday I went to my usual lunch location and ask the lady who I've spoken with many times if the meatballs were "David friendly" and she in turn ask the lady who prepared them and she said the was no poultry in them. There was also a store manager there getting a sandwich ( Ingles grocery store) So I bought the meatballs. Then a couple of hours later the tightness of breath and pain in my chest. Benadryl and prednizone for me, basically ruining my christmas. :-/
It's frustrating at times like these. I'm at a point now where I'm almost scared to eat anywhere. People put chicken in everything anymore, broth, base, flavoring.... Times are getting tougher
I've considered the farm fresh chickens without all the drugs but am too chicken to try.
thankfully/crazily I can eat the eggs.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #33 on: 30/01/2014 14:42:24 »
I can't believe I found this forum with all these other chicken/poultry allergy sufferers. Whenever I used to mention to people that I'm allergic to all poultry, they would initially say something like, 'you mean, you just don't like it', a response I've had since I was a kid. There was a particularly unpleasant nanny, who would force me to eat the revolting chicken she made, thinking that I was just being fussy, and inevitably I would have to go to the sofa and lie down with the spittoon, drooling from the the mouth and beating my chest (which strangely enough, helps), hoping for sleep to come so I would wake up without the symptoms. This earned me a reputation as a bit of a weirdo, at home and at school. If only science had declared it a real allergy, I would have had a bit more sympathy. People would say 'well surely you can eat pheasant' or any other bird that was on the menu, but no, they all had the same effect on me.

It didn't start with poultry though; I initially had an allergy to peas and tunafish, allergies which then grew to include chicken. I'd be told to eat my peas, chicken or tunafish at school and not allowed to leave until they were finished (I was at a boarding school where they do that kind of thing). I'd sit there for sometimes as much as an hour after everybody had left, refusing to the eat them. And of course, being allergic to that many things, you wind up eating them sometimes and getting the usual symptoms; stabbing, burning pain in the oesophagus, swelling under the tongue and the mouth in general and tonnes of long, stringy mucous that I'd have to continually spit out. I'd spit that into a spittoon, sometimes getting as much as half a pint of the swill. Disgusting.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, I got over it. I'd get hit with this reaction all the time, because as others have mentioned, chicken is incorporated into just about everything as it is particularly delicious and cheap as far as meat goes. Then, one day working as a tree-planter on the west coast of Canada, it'd been raining/snowing for 10 hours straight as we worked, and getting back into camp I found there was only chicken to eat. I was starving, and decided to hell with it, I'd put up with the consequences. I braced for the reaction, which I knew would have me in my tent in agony and running to a hole in the ground for relief. But it never came. I was so elated that I could now eat chicken. Anyway, for what it's worth, I was reading a story about a new cure for peanut allergy. Under hospital conditions they initially feed you minute amounts of peanut, which they gradually increase over repeated supervised visits, until eventually the immune/allergic response no longer happens: newbielink:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25917272 [nonactive]   I think this is what happened to me, eating it so many times by mistake so that gradually my sensitivity to it diminished over time.

Reading that article led me to google my old allergy again and find this forum. So nice to find that no, I'm not crazy when I start frothing at the mouth and beating on my chest to clear the pain, that there is such a thing as a chicken allergy.

NB:
I have found that boiled chicken, like you would find in a Coq au Vin has a much worse effect than other ways of preparing it.
« Last Edit: 30/01/2014 14:50:17 by poultryallergy »
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #34 on: 04/02/2014 20:56:43 »
I have read this who thing several times and finally am going to comment. Before I start no she has not been diagnosed with the allergy yet but we will hoping start testing next week with that said here is what we are going thru -

 On january 21 my 12 yr old  daughter went into anaphlactic shock. The night before she had chicken. We have always been big chicken eaters . Well we didn't think it was the chicken because as I said we do eat alot of chicken. She ended up in the hospital for 4 days and her symptoms lasted til this past friday. She has had a migraine that lasted from the first reaction and finally ended friday, the redness throat closing and feeling funny , tongue going numb and swelling , lips swelling and going numb , massive hives that swell the surrounding skin its been a mess. Only thing nobody can figure out is why her legs go numb. her legs were numb from the knee down for the week and a half she was in the reaction. When she would have bad reactions she would go numb from the waist down. she has had chicken twice since the first reaction and both those times we almost had to use her epi. She has been on so many meds its been rough on her :(
 Today was supposed to be her first day back to school and she had done great since friday night when her last bad reaction was so i figured she would make it all day. I walked her to school handed over her meds went thru the whole ordeal again with the nurse and left came home took me a shower and by the time i stepped out they had called. There was a 2 hr delay today so whole they were making and serving breakfast they were preparing lunch and it was 2 different chicken options. Somehow her breakfast tray came in contact or just being in the area she breathed it in and her hands became red and she developed her migraine. This is becoming extremely nerve racking and scary. I know i can keep her safe at home but now school has to take extreme measures to keep her safe and healthy at school til we can get some answers.
  This site is the only site i have came across that has any kind of help or actual accounts of reactions not just listings. No we are not for sure she has a chicken allergy but any time she has consumed it in the past 2 weeks she has severe reactions that leave her feeling crappy for days after and her first reaction lasted 3 days short of 2 weeks. Right now her migraine gone thanks to emitrex but her stomach hurts and shes shaky all over and feels bad :(
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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #35 on: 12/03/2014 22:12:19 »
Like others have said, I have never met anyone else with poultry allergies.  Because there is so little information out there I will also detail my allergy history.  As long as I can remember I have been allergic to both chicken and turkey but not eggs (although I have sensitivity to raw eggs, think cookie dough).  The first time being at about 5 years old after eating KFC.  Symptoms include itchy mouth and fat lip for mild reactions (Rice-a-Roni type) to hives and difficulty breathing.  The worst reaction occurred at age 14 after eating beef and noodles at school (a turkey filler was used in place of beef).  After lunch I had P.E. where we were running.  In algebra the next hour I broke out into hives and had difficulty breathing.  I was given a shot of adrenaline and prescribed an epi-pen, which I have never used.  In college I was given a ham sandwich while working construction, soon to realize it was turkey ham.  This was treated with benadryl, after again having symptoms of hives and difficulty breathing. 

I normally can quickly tell if a food contains poultry and stop eating it and treat with benadryl (this is rare less than once about every other year).

My last reaction was at a restaurant (about 2003) when I ordered Chicken Fried Steak, after eating about three bites determined it was  Chicken Fried Chicken.  This again was treated with benadryl after symptoms of itchy mouth, fat lip and slight chest tightness.

I am now 39 and went to an allergist for the first time.  My skin test showed negative for chicken and turkey, so a blood sample was taken.  Today I received the results for those test.  They were negative for both chicken and turkey but slightly positive for duck.

I am completely baffled by the results.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #36 on: 04/04/2014 00:10:39 »
Thank you all for your voice. I am a 32 year old male and have been dodging and weaving my way around my chicken and turkey allergy for 24 years now. I used to love McDonalds chicken nuggets and publix fried chicken as a kid and one day I remember getting very sick after experiencing major stomach pains and weird saliva side effects. Someone said it best on this forum, it's like someone is twisting a corkscrew into my chest (rusty steel corkscrew at that). My saliva becomes something from another planet, very foamy and then drool and then foam and then who knows what's next. I just yearn to throw up and the experience to be over. As I and then I pray that God sees me through the episode I wonder if this is the time it will go wrong and I will pass out or even die.

Growing up My body and mind knew I was allergic to chicken and turkey even when I wasn't sure. I just stopped eating it and dealt with all the naysayers along the way, "It's just in your head..it's a mental thing" WRONG. I finally got tired of questioning my subconscious instinct and told my mom I have to be tested. She arranged my allergy blood test and at the age of 18 my instincts were confirmed, the nurse says "I can't believe it but you are extremely allergic to Turkey and very much allergic to chicken". Ahaha I thought, I can't wait to tell everyone they were wrong and I was right! My parents felt terrible for the pressure and doubt they placed on me for nearly 10 years, however they were also relieved I was healthy and nothing serious occurred before we knew for sure. My friends still didn't believe me and when I would tell other people there is always doubt and followup questions like they are going to cure my problem after a little convo.

I have done a great job of avoiding chicken and turkey over the years but there are always those two or three episodes a year I come face to face with my allergy. Foods that have gotten me over the years are hotdogs, pepperoni, bacon, and soups. These usually end up having mechanically processed chicken/turkey or some other form of the viscous fowl hidden in the product. Also cross contamination at sub shops and Asian/Chinese places have gotten me. Today I had new food product get me, a meatball sub! I had to leave an important business meeting and could barely say bye because my jaw was on lock down and I had foam in my mouth. I drove carefully to a nearby hospital and went behind there dumpster to throw up, it was a loud aggressive scene that fortunately nobody had to witness. I found a hospital intentionally to hide behind in case things got much worse I could will my way to the front door and collapse, if need be. Thing started getting better so I got back in my car and drive down the road, then another painful episode came to me and I pulled into a gas station where I went to the back of the building and threw up more. All while in 90 degree heat and bugs crawling around me. The birds behind the building chirped for a while and then got real quiet probably looking at me thinking "it's probably just in his head".

I wrote an email to the sub shop asking them to disclose the ingredients in their meatballs. I'm tired of this. Companies that process or sell goods need to be required to keep products we assume beef or pork as just that. People that buy turkey-bacon and serve it like its bacon as we know it, need to be more informed. Handicap people get spaces right by the front door (as they should), items with seafood in them that usually may not contain seafood generally come with disclaimers or warnings. It's time that chicken/turkey allergies are treated with the same respect and accountability.

Your not alone and thanks to this thread I have known for years that Iam not alone. It was time for me to give back..please do the same.

One more thing, isn't it fun when your allergy comes up at a table full of people and you have to talk about it for the next 10 minutes and people start making jokes. I'm ok with the jokes but I sure wish people knew what it was like to be in a ditch area behind a BP in hot weather not knowing whether your going to make it through this one, and I need to make sure I keep my body visible just in case. Actually I don't wish that on anyone, but just saying.

It's time that companies bottom lines stop putting me in physical agony. This is what's actually " in my head".

Matt

PS. I can eat eggs no problem
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #37 on: 04/04/2014 00:31:15 »
I realized that I didn't give any advice from my years if experience.

Tip 1: Don't order anything that could contain poultry before or during a business event. The embarrassment will win out over your hunger, having to explain, or even the pain

Tip 2: NEVER eat good that has a chance to get you at an airport before a flight. Never had a reaction on a plane and I don't plan too. I once skipped my meal on a 9 hour flight even though I was starving. NOT Worth it.

Tip 3: Never be afraid to speak up

Tip 4: Never be afraid to speak up

Tip 5: If you will be part of a group feeding that is preordered (sports team on the road, work meal, Thanksgiving away from your blood family, ect..) speak up before hand or it's your fault and you you need to be willing to go without.

Tip 6: Never be afraid to speak up

Tip 7: carry an epipen (which I don't and I plan on fixing that)

Tip 8: When an episode starts make sure you tell someone or you can become visible to people if things start going way downhill

Tip 9: Your not weird. I am a successful athlete and now business person and I have a beautiful wife. You just unlucky.

Tip 10: Who wants to eat bird anyway

Bonus Tip 11: If your eating a lot of red meat, because well that's mostly what you can eat, make sure you run a lot.. all that red meat can't be good for the arteries, keep them clear. This is just my theory with nothing to back up my theory.

Anyone else have some. PLEASE share. If you can help just one person your time was worth it!
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #38 on: 10/04/2014 17:03:38 »
hello all,

I too suffer similar symptoms, an anaphylactic response if I have the term correct (tightness in chest, super itchiness on scalp, palms of hands, red blotchiness all over, excessive thick saliva).  chicken, turkey, SOME but not all tuna, tilapia.  I have some experience that may help people:

  • I tried chicken from the store, labeled free range and antibiotic free, a couple years ago thinking it may have been what they feed the chickens.  I was amazed to NOT have a reaction, so I stocked up!  only to have a nasty reaction the next time I ate it.  maybe the butcher comingled it, assuming no one could ever tell the difference?

    tuna sandwiches from subway and potbelly cause the same reaction as chicken, but I eat jimmy johns tuna sandwich once a week without issue.  the only brand of tuna I can eat from the store is starkest low sodium chunk light tuna, others cause the reaction.

    frozen tilapia, but I should note that I've never had a reaction to any type of fresh fish when I eat it at a restaurant.  maybe because it's not preserved/plumped up?  tilapia is typically farm raised, which goes back to the possibility of the feed question.

    bush's kidney beans cause the reaction, but joan of arc brand causes no such problem.

so I have a rather obvious question, based on Dex' research below, does anyone know of a reliable source for chicken and or turkey that is free of the anti-salmonella wash or the plumping:

We did our research, and, it turns out it was related to the new method of sanitizing poultry and preparing it for display.  Poultry used to be sanitized for salmonella by dipping it in an ammonia wash.  In the last few years, a sodium phosphate wash has become a more popular choice.

it seems to me that part of the preparation for the fish, chicken, turkey and beans may have a common component, possibly the phosphate wash, that is causing the issue.  isolate that and maybe there's some help for us?
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #39 on: 11/04/2014 20:29:48 »
My people! I too suffer from a dangerous poultry allergy. I'm 38 now and have lived with this since I was diagnosed at about 4 years old. I was very fortunate to have a pediatrician who had a son with the same allergy, so my parents took this seriously from the start. As many of you have experienced,  many others since have not.

My symptoms include the excessive salivation, throat closing, chest congestion, and an overall anxious and very uncomfortable feeling. The symptoms come on very quickly and last several hours. I generally get extremely tired afterwards and my appetite often doesn't return for 18 to 24 hours or more. I get the same reaction from chicken and turkey and I would assume other birds, but I'm fine with eggs and enjoy them regularly. A few years ago a friend wanted to make something different for me for my birthday. He made alligator gumbo and I had a terrible birthday night. He was well aware of my allergy and did not include any poultry in the dish, so we had to assume that the alligator caused the reaction. The symptoms were the same.

I am an obsessive label reader and going out to eat is always an adventure. I get very annoyed by waitstaff who don't take my dietary needs seriously and always do my best to educate them if they are willing to listen. I've had 4 fairly serious reactions in the last 7 or 8 years. All were from restaurant prepared food. I just helped a good friend out with opening up her own restaurant. She is an amazing chef and my allergy stories have made her very sensitive to allergies in general so she is very happy to accommodate and is very clear about ingredients.

I used to carry an epi-pen, but I never replaced it when it expired years ag. I kn ow I should get another, especially for when I'm traveling.

Just wanted to share a little bit about my experiences with my broken immune system. It truly is a curse, but one that we have to live with. Good luck to you all. Keep reading labels and keep askingquestions!
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #40 on: 21/04/2014 16:13:20 »
So glad I found this forum.  I've had a poultry allergy for as long as I can remember (I'm 28 now).  I remember being about 3 or 4 years old, and telling my parents my throat hurt whenever I ate chicken, so they stopped feeding it to me for the most part.  I'd try eating chicken when it was the only thing around, but would get a horrible reaction to it.  I have almost identical symptoms to NomNomNom below.

- Tightening of the chest/heartburn (the person who described it as a "corkscrew" sensation was spot on)
- Uncontrollable/steady stream of saliva
- Closing of the throat (personally I've never had breathing difficulties, which sounds contradictory, but for me it's just a really unpleasant tightening sensation)
- Occasional urge to throw up, less as an "omg-get-to-the-bathroom-now" thing and more as an attempt to get rid of what feels like a huge spiky ball in my chest/throat.

It takes a good hour or two for these symptoms to fully disappear. I used to eat chicken all the time when I was little, and then started having this reaction right around puberty. I react the same way to chicken, turkey, and duck, so it's safe to say this is a general poultry allergy. I'm not allergic to eggs.

I was especially interested to read goldengirl's description of how it runs in his/her family, because I've always had a theory that it's a genetic thing - my brother developed the exact same allergy, also around puberty.

That last part about it possibly being a genetic thing is interesting.  My younger brother (25 yrs. old) started developing this same allergy in his 20's.  It doesn't seem to be as severe, but he complains about not being able to eat poultry at times now.  However, I do not know anyone else in my family that has had this type of reaction to poultry.

The absolute worst reaction I had ever had was when I only ate some mashed potatoes that touched turkey.  I didn't even eat the turkey.  I was in college at the time, and went to class afterwords.  I could feel the reaction coming on, but just hoped it wouldn't be bad.  I spent the entire class period in the bathroom.  My chest was torturing me, and my heart pounding out of my chest.  I had an endless amount of saliva, and my throat felt like it had a knife in it while it was closing up.

My fiance constantly tells me I need to get an epipen, which I know I should.  That's something I need to push myself to get.  I'm always just weary about going to the doctor since everyone always looks at me weird when I say I have a poultry allergy.

I also did the same thing as hurlburt and bought organic chicken a couple of years ago to test if it was the chemical's/hormones, and not the actual chicken.  I was amazed that I didn't have a reaction, and was so happy that I thought I found a solution to my problem.  However, the next day I ate leftovers, and had a reaction again.

I also remember a really interesting month in my life when I ate chicken the entire month without a reaction.  I remember going to Chick-fil-A and just out of curiosity bought some chicken when I was with some family.  Didn't have a reaction... tested it out at other restaurants, and ended up eating chicken for a whole month until the reaction came back.  That was probably about 10 years ago.

I too am not allergic to eggs, thank God.  I eat eggs a lot as a source of protein.  I have not tried duck, but am afraid to try it.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #41 on: 24/04/2014 11:12:43 »
This is some ]fowl trick of nature, if you'll pardon the pun.

Its odd that your allergy seems to have taken a 1 month vacation and a separate 1 day vacation.

Perhaps it is not the chicken, but rather the cooking process or cooking additives.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #42 on: 12/06/2014 22:58:55 »
Hmm. After nearly 20 years on the internet, I finally googled my food allergy. Yes - all poultry, but not eggs or feathers. Ostrich Jerky, duck liver (smaller reaction to poultry livers). I was born in '74 and the allergy was discovered at 7 months of age. Nearly killed me, as it has many times.
I have some lifelong lessons and an anecdote or two to share as well - and some of this will not be safe for conservatives.

A) The most severe forms of reactions for me are distinctly broths and fats. The anecdote here was during a cold wintery day (for Tucson) hanging out at a friends, I was unaware he was having a bowl of chicken broth sitting next me (we all colds, of course, we were teenagers). The wretched hives I suffered appeared in waves they exactly followed the path of the steam from his bowl. Hilarious, to my friends.

B) If you are as allergic as I, print a business card to give to the cooks whenever you go out to eat - in Spanish and English. Make it clear they cannot use the same cooking utensils or cooking surfaces as poultry in addition to the ingredient itself. A single spoon dipped into the kung pao sauce then used for your tofu dish should never give you a reaction.

C) Talk to the butcher at your local supermarket and get your ground meat immediately after a sanitizing of the grinder they use. You should not use a pound of organically fed chemical free ground beef for tacos that was ground immediately after turkey - which you purchased at an upscale health food chain.

D) Never trust a grill anywhere that you don't scrub clean yourself. Lazy friends!

E) When visiting your local farmer's markets - be sure to ask what kind of fertilizer they use! Especially since I've gotten reactions from many local producers who use bonemeal, household compost, or the scrapings of chicken droppings on their vegetables. It can get into the actual cellulose of the plant.

F) Finally, when sourcing your weed, see E, above. If you think eating poultry gives you an awful reaction, try smoking it. A whole new world of suffering I would not wish upon my worst enemy.

Additional anecdote: My teenage friends tested my allergy back in the 80's by feeding me a Louis Rich hot dog (remember when poultry hot dogs were top shelf?). Best hot dog I ever ate. Lazy, lying friends. They believed me after that night. At least they cleaned up.

Pain in the ass allergy. Thanks for reading.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #43 on: 05/07/2014 19:48:01 »
Wow, like the last poster, I don't know if I never looked this up, or if there just wasn't anything around when I did. Nice to see I have company, I don't think I've ever met anyone else that has a poultry allergy.

I have a similar story, I had reactions to chicken when I was young, but wasn't believed until some chicken touched my face and it turned red. After that, my family went out of their way to give me alternative choices for food.

My reactions were always mild, relatively. Itchy mouth, closing throat/tight chest. I'm 44 now, and if anything, my reaction is even more mild. Still annoying, and I always avoid poultry. I've had mixed results with duck though. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes not.

Just for reference, I have a ton of other allergies too - lots of raw vegetables, nuts, honey, tropical fruit. Again though, my reactions aren't dangerous, just annoying. I just found something called Oral Allergy Syndrome that seems to describe it:
"OAS (also known as pollen-food syndrome) is an allergic reaction to certain proteins in a variety of fruits, vegetables and nuts. The symptoms include itching and burning of the lips, mouth and throat." 
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #44 on: 04/09/2014 15:29:07 »
Like everyone else here, it is a surprise to see others are also allergic to chicken (poultry) and tuna.   I have read through this several times.  My experiecne is so similar.  I ate chicken and tuna and turkey since I was a child - I was born in 1962.    It was not until about 1987 that I started to get allergic reactions to the above foods.  Never had any allergies and am a healthy individual. Interesting reading, the sanitation method for food changed in the early '80's.   Dex said last year, that there is a phosphate allergy.  Perhaps I am allergic to the phosphate.   I too have had similar experiences - rushed to the ER with anaphylactic shock - a few times.   Always read labels for ingredients, to include chicken stock.  No one believes I can be allergic to chicken or tuna (surprisingly not turkey anymore).    But I can eat eggs.  My allergist states, that 'whatever' my allergy, it does not pass through the placenta, hence I can eat eggs.   I have my epi pen which needs a renewal.  Last night had a reaction to mahi mahi, so could it be the cleaning method.?.?  Was never allergic to mahi mahi before.  So I had the typical, tingling of scalp and hands, tighteness across the chest and general discomfort that lasts for about an hour or so.  I can tell when the reaction is coming on and I drink lots of water to dilute the reaction, if you will.  Took some benadryl.  My wife is after me to research this further, so here I am.    I plan to call my allergist and inquire about the phosphate issue.  Maybe this is it and could eventually go to free range chicken.  I have not knowingly ingested chicken for almost 30 years now.   The bufffet lines are scarey when the food I want to eat is next to the chicken dish - yes spoons get swapped - and yes I had the reaction.   Any way, good reading, I will respost if I can conclude anything re phosphates.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #45 on: 05/10/2014 01:40:32 »
I used to eat anything without problems. One day at around 37 years of age I had same canned tuna (as many times before) and I could feel my lips tingling as if the tuna was super salty. Over the last 7 years I got more sensitive. I still have no problems eating eggs, steaks, burgers or pork meat.

For me, the most fast acting culprits are chicken broths and canned tuna. I feel my lips tingling within few seconds from contact. Within few minutes: Tightening of the chest and the very unpleasant closing of the throat resulting in highly reduced ability to burp/swallow and related trapped air bloating sensation. This typically lasts 2 to 4 hours. Sometimes there is a “second wave” after 3-4 hours in the lower stomach area that feels like a blocked digestion where the food is undecided which way to go. When this happens there are few minutes of cold sweat and heavy breathing while laying down trying not to pass-out.

So far I have identified these triggers: tuna, tilapia, chicken, turkey, other “fish” fried or raw (sashimi/sushi).
One Thanksgiving day I got a mild reaction from some white turkey meat. As a test, I went back for more dark only turkey meat from the same bird. The dark turkey meat seemed to have no allergic effect.

My last severe reaction has been to a shiny looking supermarket sashimi (I did avoid the tuna). Reading the label revealed the presence of “potassium sorbate” (preservative). This sashimi was particularly treacherous since the symptoms took 5 minutes to manifest. By that time I already did eat 4 pieces…
From time to time, if I find myself in a reputable (expensive) restaurant with my wife, I try to eat a small piece of “fresh” tuna steak or sushi, usually without any side effect.

I still cannot figure out exactly what causes the allergic reaction. If I have to guess: some poultry / fish protein and/or preservative. But this is not my field of expertise.
I hope this helps in figuring out this mostly unheard-off yet very real allergy.
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #46 on: 10/12/2014 19:36:04 »
wow ... " post was blocked for : YOU HAVE USED A BLACKLISTED" term  = COKE !
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #47 on: 12/12/2014 09:22:24 »
I am like some of you. I start to feel the allergy about an hour and a half after digesting turkey, chicken or eggs. Strange I can eat eggs if they are baked into something such as cake etc. I can not eat ice cream that has eggs, nor fried eggs, scrambled etc.

As I sit here and type this I am on the end of my second reaction in 3 days. Will explain this more later.

I cannot eat any form of poultry, juice etc. My reaction is like a body migraine. I have IBS too and it just kicks this into high gear it seems. I start with severe back pain, my stomach is next, cramping, nausea, sometimes vomiting, severe diarrhea . I just feel like I have been hit with a major flu bug. I go to bed and sleep it off. I really do not know how bad the symptoms would get if I stayed awake. I have trained my body to go to sleep while in major pain, such as migraines etc. When I wake up I am exhausted. I will still experience the diarrhea, cramping, nausea and sometimes vomit, and I just want to go back to bed. I feel like I am on day 3 of a week long flu.

I am now 51 the first reactions started about 13 years ago. My husband was the one that figured out what it was.  I would eat and like I said hour and a half later I was sick as a dog. I can't remember now how many times I got sick in a 2 week period but my husband said, you know the last time you did this we had chicken. So just to see, the next night I made chicken, yep sick as all get out.

Each time it seems to be worse than others. Label reading is a MUST!! There are so many products now that you wouldn't think that has turkey, chicken, or eggs in them. Here is what I have found.

Pizza Restaurants there are 2 kinds of sausage. Italian sausage is made with pork. If it just says sausage ask, 99% of the time it is made with chicken. Pepperoni is another one you need to ask about, Ham as well.

Any restaurant you eat in, make sure you tell them no matter what you order that you have an allergy. Sometimes items you would not think would have chicken broth in them, do!!! My egg allergy is included.

Salad bars stay away from the ham. Again most of the time the ham is turkey ham, and a lot of the items have chicken broth, even if it says pork or beef. Yes, the meat is pork or beef but they don't say they added chicken broth to recipe.

Beware of any place that slices their own meat for sandwiches. I have been hit with my allergy from buying a ham sub, steak sub etc. WHY? Because they didn't properly clean the slicer between meats. This has been different places. Grocery stores, restaurants, deli's etc. Meat departments sometimes do not handle meat the proper way either. I have bought hamburger and gotten a poultry reaction to it. The last time I talked to the store manager at a meat market I had been going to for years because I trust them. No issues, I hardly buy meat anywhere else anymore. A couple months ago I bought some ground beef, cooked it up that night and wham. I talked to the owner the next day on the phone. He assured me they do not do poultry and the other meats even in the same sections of the departments. He did however tell me about how meats are transported on trucks. Sometimes boxes of meats are all stacked on top of each other, pork on beef, chicken on top. They leak etc. sounds extremely scary. Not sure how this would even be legal?

Now for my experience this week. I went to Little Caesars and bought one of their ready pizza's. We do this when I am lazy every now and again. Never had an issue. Well Tuesday bought a pizza and grabbed a couple of the buttery garlic sauces they had. Never tried them before. They weren't bad a good addition to the pizza.
Hour and a half later I was sick as a dog, I thought oh no, they now use chicken pepperoni like so many frozen pizzas now. I called them, the manager assured me it is still pork. It is 4am Friday morning, yesterday around noon we bought a quick pizza for lunch after a dr appointment. I took a little bit of the garlic sauce and put it on my Italian cheese bread, not as much as I had used Tuesday but enough to taste it. Ate one piece of pizza and it was not even a half hour later I started to get sick as all get out. I told my husband something is going on here. I decided to go to Little Caesars website and check out their Nutrition information. Well to my surprise in their allergy reaction section they say that the sauces all but the BBQ has allergy information  Egg, milk and soybean.
You can't read the labels on these things. I told my husband I bet you anything it has egg yolk for the coloring. He took a pic with his phone and enlarged the small print and low and behold the last ingredient, egg yolk. You would think with all the people that have egg allergies that they would have a sign up.

As I said it is 4am. I laid down about 1pm Thursday afternoon and woke up at 11:30pm. I have been throwing up, feel like I have been run over by a fleet of trucks. This is the worst reaction I have ever had. I know they seem to get worse as they go, but I think its worse because I was still recovering from the one Tuesday. I take Bentyl for my IBS, I took one after I woke up.. about an half hour later the cramping in my back got worse. So I am not sure if this medicine is helping or hurting during an allergy attack.

I am sorry that I have been just going on here. I hope it helps someone else.





 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #48 on: 06/01/2015 14:22:29 »
Another Chicken/Turkey Allergy sufferer here.

Again story is pretty similar - could eat it fine as a child, reactions starting from my late teens. Mid teens also started having Hay-fever symptoms. I can usually tell relatively straight away that I've had something - my lips tingle at the edges, then my lips, inside of my cheek, tongue and eventually throat will all puff up.

My grandmother nearly killed me one Christmas - made me a pork chop or something as a Turkey alternative - but it ended up with Turkey Gravy on it, and I was very quickly having to lie on the floor to try and breath.

As I've got older it has spread to other things, Eggs that are not cooked properly and strangely Parsley.

These have all been confirmed with a skin ***** test since, which also showed up a really bad allergy to House Dust Mites.

I also find that the hay-fever makes the food allergy worse. In the summer, on a high pollen day I'm far more likely to get a reaction from an egg that's slightly under cooked, but in the winter I'd tolerate it fine.

It's like the Hay-fever just pushes things over the edge.

I now carry an Eppy pen and I take Lorraine daily, year round.

I think taking the loratadine daily has really helped me and the frequency of my reactions has gone down substantially. I've also found my hay-fever to be less of an issue since I've been taking the loratadine daily - it's like it builds up in my system better.

So it's a pain to be sure, but for the most part I manage fairly well. Like others have said it is really surprising how much stuff contains chicken. Tinned 'Pork' Hot Dogs always used to catch me out, as has Sandwich Spreads.

So yeah I'd defiantly recommend the loratadine daily, year round. It's pretty inexpensive, I tend to either stock up when it's more easily available in the summer or order it online in bulk from one of the online pharmacists
 

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Re: Why am I allergic to chicken and turkey?
« Reply #49 on: 03/02/2015 22:28:25 »
I just wanted to thank you all for posting about your poultry allergies... my son, who is now 9, started having a reaction to poultry when he was about 5.  Luckily, I made the connection between chicken and his illness about two months or so after the start.  He has never been tested for the allergy, but he has the same drooling, chest pain, bloating and vomiting that a lot of you have.  Usually, his symptoms start out as bloating or feeling like he has eaten too much... after a few hours (usually in the wee hours of morning) he wakes up and starts vomiting.  He is physically ill for most of the morning and doesn't get his appetite back until evening.  We have been very careful about what he eats, and I cook all our meals from scratch unless we eat out- at restaurants he orders burgers.  We also homeschool, so I know exactly what he eats during the day.  He has not had a reaction to any foods for at least two years.  I just hope he is as careful as we are when he gets older and on his own...

Like many of you, he can eat all the eggs he wants!  And, we used to keep chickens so I know he is not allergic to feathers :) 

I've had people (mostly family!) tell me I'm nuts for not feeding him chicken.  It is hard, as a mother, to see your child suffering!  I will continue to stand my ground with all the nay-sayers, including my in-laws :)
You have helped me understand that this is more common than I thought.  Thank you for all your posts!!
 

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