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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #100 on: 19/05/2015 00:46:26 »
the speed and strength of light, gravity and em force, are magically match. what's the odds?

isn't the nature told us all the secret ALREADY?
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #101 on: 19/05/2015 05:59:47 »
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the speed and strength of light, gravity and em force, are magically match.
Like so much of what you post, that sentence doesn't make sense. E.g. there is no sense in speaking about the speed of light and the strength of light to match. The same with the rest of your claim.
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #102 on: 19/05/2015 08:11:05 »
speed of light, gravity and em force are the same c.

strength of light, gravity and em force are all inversely proportional to r^2.
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #103 on: 19/05/2015 09:11:40 »
strength of light, gravity and em force are all inversely proportional to r^2.
So is sound, thickness of a balloon skin as it inflates, it's called geometry.
When the geometry is different, they can all cease to be prop to r2
« Last Edit: 20/05/2015 07:23:12 by Colin2B »
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #104 on: 19/05/2015 14:02:04 »
strength of light, gravity and em force are all inversely proportional to r^2.
So is sound, pressure due to ripples in a pond, thickness of a balloon skin as it inflates, it's called geometry.
When the geometry is different, they can all cease to be prop to r2

so you think geometry made light, gravity and em force all have same speed?

why is dipole field strength falls off inversely with the cube of the distance?

you don't even know how a hydrogen atom is formed, is it 2d or 3d yet, get those right first.
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #105 on: 19/05/2015 14:29:48 »
so you think geometry made light, gravity and em force
No, that's your misreading what I said

why is dipole field strength falls off inversely with the cube of the distance?
Do you mean dipole antenna? Inverse square
Do you mean dipole moment? Different geometry, not the same as the others, check your facts and look carefully at what the terms mean.

you don't even know how a hydrogen atom is formed, is it 2d or 3d yet, get those right first.
I know, I've got it right, you just don't want to believe.

Off to talk to folks with real questions.
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #106 on: 19/05/2015 17:08:38 »
what's the odds told you?

moon disk and sun disk are the same size in the sky

light, gravity and em force speed are the same c in space

i say the solar system is designed

gravity is em force and light is em wave



 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #107 on: 19/05/2015 18:36:47 »
what's the odds told you?

moon disk and sun disk are the same size in the sky

light, gravity and em force speed are the same c in space

i say the solar system is designed

gravity is em force and light is em wave


Gravity is not Em force, Em wave is coupling between all matter.
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #108 on: 21/05/2015 03:22:37 »
all truth goes through three stages. first it is ridiculed. then it is violently opposed. finally it is accepted as self-evident.
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #109 on: 21/05/2015 13:20:01 »
all truth goes through three stages. first it is ridiculed. then it is violently opposed. finally it is accepted as self-evident.
And all the bull s_1t also goes through three stages. First it is eaten, then it is scrutinized, and finally it's excreted.
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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #110 on: 21/05/2015 13:42:24 »
yes, such as flat earth, gravitron, photon. time will tell.
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #111 on: 22/05/2015 19:11:16 »
yes, such as flat earth, gravitron, photon. time will tell.

I like your wavelength JCCC, consider that emr to be like  a constant energy channel with no net charge, all values are zero unless by interaction.  Interaction being matter or observer effect that makes a net charge.

i.e I send a carrier wave through the constant such as satellite signal. A stream through the zero.

Now consider matter and Protons and einsteins photon electrical effect, matter emits light that travels through the light, a sort of fibre optic signalling.


Consider light opposes light, two streams travelling opposing directions.


quarks attract quarks, so protons attract protons, electrons emitted from the charged protons oppose incoming light.

This is gravity dude.  The photon electrical effect is the mechanism.


''LIGHT HAS BEEN put to work generating the same force that makes airplanes fly, a study appearing online December 5 in Nature Photonics shows. With the right design, a uniform stream of light has pushed tiny objects in much the same way that an airplane wing hoists a 747 off the ground.''

http://www.wired.com/2010/12/laser-light-can-lift-tiny-objects/


Because matter emits an equal and opposing electrical field.




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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #112 on: 22/05/2015 19:34:26 »
i don't have wave length, due to i don't vibrate, my force field is not moving.

if i shake my head 4 x 10^14 times per second, the sky around me will turn red.

if you shake your head 8 x 10^14 times per second, your sky will be blue.

bet?
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #113 on: 22/05/2015 19:38:07 »
i don't have wave length, due to i don't vibrate, my force field is not moving.

if i shake my head 4 x 10^14 times per second, the sky around me will turn red.

if you shake your head 8 x 10^14 times per second, your sky will be blue.

bet?


you would black out and see nothing
 

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Re: Theory of light
« Reply #114 on: 22/05/2015 20:40:21 »
got me that 1
 

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Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #115 on: 01/06/2015 03:52:13 »
Ever see an electron?
 

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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #116 on: 01/06/2015 04:19:10 »
Ever see an electron?

i  did not. scientists did.

they say electron has energy levels and shells, every shell can occupy 2 electrons the most.

they see electrons emit photons, many colors.
 

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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #117 on: 01/06/2015 04:52:42 »
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they see electrons emit photons, many colors.
Wrong. Electrons don't emit photons. Atoms do.
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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #118 on: 01/06/2015 05:35:02 »
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they see electrons emit photons, many colors.
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Wrong. Electrons don't emit photons. Atoms do.

atoms exited and vibrate? so they produce gravitational waves?
 

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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #119 on: 01/06/2015 05:38:40 »
no wonder box and i shake our heads until black out.
 

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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #120 on: 01/06/2015 06:39:48 »
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no wonder box and i shake our heads until black out.
Why is that? Is it because you insist of confusing quantum mechanics with classical mechanics?
 

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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #121 on: 01/06/2015 06:47:32 »
we try so hard to shine some light on science.

too bad we both black out before reach the visible frequency.
 

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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #122 on: 01/06/2015 06:52:14 »
we try so hard to shine some light on science.

too bad we both black out before reach the visible frequency.
Again you're writing meaningless posts.
 

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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #123 on: 01/06/2015 07:00:43 »
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they see electrons emit photons, many colors.
Wrong. Electrons don't emit photons. Atoms do.

so how atoms emit photons?

this is from wiki, is it correct? thanks!

The frequencies of light that an atom can emit are dependent on states the electrons can be in. When excited, an electron moves to a higher energy level or orbital. When the electron falls back to its ground level the light is emitted.
 

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Re: Re: Is zero g force traveling possible
« Reply #124 on: 01/06/2015 07:39:00 »
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so how atoms emit photons?
When the wave function of the electron changes state from one energy eigenstate to another then a photon is released. When you start asking for mechanisms you're not going to get anywhere because it doesn't exist beyond that. It's well known that when studying quantum mechanics and people start asking "how can that be" then they go down the drain.

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this is from wiki, is it correct? thanks!
What's from wiki? What I said? Hardly! I learned it when I studied quantum mechanics as an undergraduate and in graduate school.

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The frequencies of light that an atom can emit are dependent on states the electrons can be in. When excited, an electron moves to a higher energy level or orbital. When the electron falls back to its ground level the light is emitted.
So. You finally get it, huh? It reality that's an approximation, i.e. it's really the atom that changes from one energy eigenstate to another, not merely the electron. The potential energy exists between the nucleus and the electron, not merely the electron in a potential field.
 

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