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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #50 on: 19/05/2015 23:05:46 »
im a chef and not remotely interested in any posts on here.

It shows, because that's why you're incapable of learning anything.

[A wise person is often able to learn something from a fool, but a fool is rarely able to learn anything from someone wise.]
 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #51 on: 20/05/2015 06:59:46 »


When I say air, that covers all of the gases on earth.We don't understand how viscous air is,but water acts the same way as "air".Theres a scientist call erik verlinde who explains this more scientificly and a bundle of other people that say a similar thing.Im mearly stating that the "air"in "total weight" is heavier than anything on earth.It itself in under pressure from space,so in turn is trying to balance out with space,but I believe the helium layer is a radioactive barrier stopping this possibly or contribute.if you put aninflated balloon in a vacuum,it will rise.hmm.#youtube.its simple to me.earth is neutral and always will be.statics in general has a "low limit" of use and couldn't lift a rock let alone attract like a magnet has an obvious positive and negative.

You are not considering density, air is not dense, and neither is any other gas compared to a brick or ourselves.   We can easily displace air . 

Air simply does not have the density to push us down to the floor.  If you were in space where there is no air, the earth still pulls you ''down'' back to Earth. 

No air pressure and gravity still has effect.

Your logic is terrible.

youre only pulled to the earth within its outer spheres.when you blow a balloon up,its takes longer to fall.when you deflate it it falls straight to the ground.how can a hot air balloon lift a ton.

how do you explain the anti gravity wheel.#youtube.

when youre in space and dead still,earth aint gonna pull you towards it.no proof.unless your within its atmosphere.cavendish experiment still not explained anyone?how can you explain an example of two objects attracting.why does the moon cause waves.i say the moon is only attracted to the sodium in the water as its own atmosphere is sodium confirming the moon has a high content of sodium.

Logic is what im using.ur using text book.im not even educated in any field of science.im a chef and not remotely interested in any posts on here.why am I 1 of few including erik verlinde that thinks this.einstein opposed newtons equation and used his own.string theory and many more accepted.mine is called compact theory.

just read centrifugal forces lighter(less dense)gases to outside of sphere and so fourth.when we swim,we cant go down to low because of the weight of water on us.if heavy things don't go up or remain still,gravitation is what It is.

Do you not realise that I am probably the most said ''troll'' on the entire internet forums of science?  You think I am educated in science and text books?

I am not educated, I am telling you straight that I have covered your idea already , I give science holy hell, I even produce maths of my own. 

From a nobody to a nobody  science wise, your logic is flawed .

I am a painter and decorator.

I understand you  probably really  hate your job, and would love that one big idea, me too, but this is not an idea that has a starting premise for argument.

Gravity mechanism is what you seek, and air pressure is not it.

The mechanism of gravity is atomic level based for a certainty. 

If you insist on air, then you need to break air down to an atomic level and start there.

The up and down of air I feel is related to gravity but not gravity itself.





 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #52 on: 20/05/2015 20:47:48 »


When I say air, that covers all of the gases on earth.We don't understand how viscous air is,but water acts the same way as "air".Theres a scientist call erik verlinde who explains this more scientificly and a bundle of other people that say a similar thing.Im mearly stating that the "air"in "total weight" is heavier than anything on earth.It itself in under pressure from space,so in turn is trying to balance out with space,but I believe the helium layer is a radioactive barrier stopping this possibly or contribute.if you put aninflated balloon in a vacuum,it will rise.hmm.#youtube.its simple to me.earth is neutral and always will be.statics in general has a "low limit" of use and couldn't lift a rock let alone attract like a magnet has an obvious positive and negative.

You are not considering density, air is not dense, and neither is any other gas compared to a brick or ourselves.   We can easily displace air . 

Air simply does not have the density to push us down to the floor.  If you were in space where there is no air, the earth still pulls you ''down'' back to Earth. 

No air pressure and gravity still has effect.

Your logic is terrible.

youre only pulled to the earth within its outer spheres.when you blow a balloon up,its takes longer to fall.when you deflate it it falls straight to the ground.how can a hot air balloon lift a ton.

how do you explain the anti gravity wheel.#youtube.

when youre in space and dead still,earth aint gonna pull you towards it.no proof.unless your within its atmosphere.cavendish experiment still not explained anyone?how can you explain an example of two objects attracting.why does the moon cause waves.i say the moon is only attracted to the sodium in the water as its own atmosphere is sodium confirming the moon has a high content of sodium.

Logic is what im using.ur using text book.im not even educated in any field of science.im a chef and not remotely interested in any posts on here.why am I 1 of few including erik verlinde that thinks this.einstein opposed newtons equation and used his own.string theory and many more accepted.mine is called compact theory.

just read centrifugal forces lighter(less dense)gases to outside of sphere and so fourth.when we swim,we cant go down to low because of the weight of water on us.if heavy things don't go up or remain still,gravitation is what It is.

Do you not realise that I am probably the most said ''troll'' on the entire internet forums of science?  You think I am educated in science and text books?

I am not educated, I am telling you straight that I have covered your idea already , I give science holy hell, I even produce maths of my own. 

From a nobody to a nobody  science wise, your logic is flawed .

I am a painter and decorator.

I understand you  probably really  hate your job, and would love that one big idea, me too, but this is not an idea that has a starting premise for argument.

Gravity mechanism is what you seek, and air pressure is not it.

The mechanism of gravity is atomic level based for a certainty. 

If you insist on air, then you need to break air down to an atomic level and start there.

The up and down of air I feel is related to gravity but not gravity itself.

okay.why does a helium balloon sink in a helium environment?
why would a bag of cement blow away without water or stay put with water.because your increasing the density.by changing the atomic density,like oxygen,then surely more molecules of the same would float.like increase the content on helium in a larger area and it will lift a human hard enough to crush it from force.reverse that idea.taa daa.the characteristics of a floating human walking upside down on their ceiling is the same as well.the pressure of the gas-less vacuum of space is exerting on the earth and so forth.....
 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #53 on: 20/05/2015 21:07:33 »


okay.why does a helium balloon sink in a helium environment?
why would a bag of cement blow away without water or stay put with water.because your increasing the density.by changing the atomic density,like oxygen,then surely more molecules of the same would float.like increase the content on helium in a larger area and it will lift a human hard enough to crush it from force.reverse that idea.taa daa.the characteristics of a floating human walking upside down on their ceiling is the same as well.the pressure of the gas-less vacuum of space is exerting on the earth and so forth.....


Why does an helium balloon sink in a helium environment, the mass of the balloon itself. 

Wind blows cement dust, water adds weight, I.e Newtons

More weight , more wind needed.

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #54 on: 20/05/2015 23:59:22 »
Ok.were getting somewhere.look up "air in space" on youtube and you will see a similar experiment with air in a water bubble in microgravity on some sort of spacestation.

Microwhat? I thought gravity didn't exist in your universe, so how can you talk about microgravity?
 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #55 on: 24/05/2015 01:08:02 »
Yes he did mention gravity. There goes his theory.
 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #56 on: 24/05/2015 07:47:53 »
Yes he did mention gravity. There goes his theory.
According to his theory, if you put an object in a box and pump in high pressure air, the object should get heavier.
Pressure of gasses at different temperatures etc has been one of the most experimented topics of physics, it is even done as basic school experiments so an odd effects related to gravity would have been noticed.
You are dealing with a closed mind, so you'll never convince him. Even The Box recognises this theory is wrong. I'm out of this discussion.
 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #57 on: 24/05/2015 20:38:15 »
Yes he did mention gravity. There goes his theory.
According to his theory, if you put an object in a box and pump in high pressure air, the object should get heavier.
Pressure of gasses at different temperatures etc has been one of the most experimented topics of physics, it is even done as basic school experiments so an odd effects related to gravity would have been noticed.
You are dealing with a closed mind, so you'll never convince him. Even The Box recognises this theory is wrong. I'm out of this discussion.
pump in high pressure air?i have never once indicated pressurized air.air is made up of many different gases.70% of it is nitrogen.why do they use nitrogen in lifting struts?
I believe in everything u guys do.closed mind?no.if I showed you and proved the world wrong-who would have the closed mind?
 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #58 on: 29/05/2015 18:42:20 »
pump in high pressure air?i have never once indicated pressurized air.
Yes you have, look at the title of your thread "Air pressure keeps all grounded ..."

It does not matter what gases you use, air pressure means pressurised air. If there is no pressure you have a vacuum.
So something has to pressurise the air in order to create air pressure, in standard physics this is gravity pulling the air down. If you believe that it is air pressure holding us down, then that pressure would create a different force on an object depending on its orientation, eg a long cylinder on end has a smaller surface area upright than when on its side hence would weigh more on its side. But it doesn't, it weighs the same.
 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #59 on: 30/05/2015 00:43:56 »
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pump in high pressure air?i have never once indicated pressurized air.
So what if you didn't indicate pressurized air. If you mentioned it at all then it's implied that the air has pressure since it's a gas and all gases have pressure.

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why do they use nitrogen in lifting struts?
Because nitrogen is less likely to cause corrosion.

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I believe in everything u guys do.closed mind?no.
Thanks. That's awfully nice of you.

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if I showed you and proved the world wrong-who would have the closed mind?
That question is incompletely phrased because being closed minded implies that one has a mind firmly unreceptive to new ideas or arguments. In that question you didn't mention anything at all about whether the people you were asking questions of are receptive to new ideas and/or arguments. Are they?
 

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Re: Air pressure keeps all grounded and gravity does not exist?
« Reply #60 on: 30/05/2015 01:01:06 »
I have a wonderful idea for this theory. Take a very sturdy container. Write down the theory on a piece of paper and seal it inside. Then pump all the gas out of the container to create a vacuum. With any luck it will float away. Never to be seen again.
 

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