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Re: The mass and charge discrepancy
« Reply #25 on: 24/10/2015 14:21:53 »
If dark matter particles are composite then finding another pattern like this may show what it is made of.
 

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« Reply #26 on: 26/10/2015 17:15:49 »
Have you ever considered there is no such thing as charge? Electron flow might be the spin from exotic dark matter and have nothing to do with a concept of charge. The proton and neutron might consist of electrons with opposite spin states. A proton having one excess positron. Energy of c being exotic dark mass energy.

While charge has the connotation of balance flow is more in line with electron motion. Even north and south in magnets are just spin rotation. Could the fields be dark mass energy? Quarks could be a stable flow of matter and anti-matter brought to a more stable proton and neutron. Electrons might spin like gears in quarks rather than collide. If all electrons are moving at the same speed the electron could enter the proton and knock out another electron for a cycle.
 

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« Reply #27 on: 27/10/2015 22:01:29 »
I think there has been way to much experimental evidence for charge. If you consider the deep inelastic scattering that first showed the presence of component particles in the proton, neutron and other exotic particles then how can these components be electrons? There is definitely confinement within the nucleons. Experimental evidence shows that you never see free quarks. They always find a partner, which has to be another quark. Electrons would just separate out of collisions and particle decay would have a much different result. It wouldn't produce the types of particles seen all the time in particle accelerators. Speculation can sometimes lead to new insights but it has to be firmly based upon observation and established physics.
 

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« Reply #28 on: 28/10/2015 22:03:17 »
I agree on observation but when we use orthogonal destructive methods I am not sure what established physics might be. If energy of c is organized (which if it exists) than the motion of the electron is a path like a string. Spinning points would be the flexible nature needed for the flexible motion but at the same time be organized path for the electron. In that sense charge would be a spin component that appears as a string. 
 

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« Reply #29 on: 30/10/2015 13:56:48 »
That sounds a bit like de Broglie or Bohm. You then have a wave which guides the particle. That then leads to hidden variable theories which I have little knowledge of. This also has to take into account Bell's inequality.
 

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« Reply #30 on: 30/10/2015 19:57:47 »
As an historical side note to the above it would be useful for anyone to read up on Bertlmanns socks as a way of understanding Bell's inequality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Bertlmann
http://fmoldove.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-socks-of-mr.html
 

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Re: The mass and charge discrepancy
« Reply #31 on: 17/04/2016 00:18:02 »
The graphs in this thread are to be used in a new hypothesis. This will be part of a new thread.
 

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