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Re: Debates
« Reply #25 on: 09/11/2006 18:53:57 »
We could always have a debate about debates, and if that gets boring then we could have a debate about debating debates that get boring, surely that could keep us entertained for a while  ;)

So you want to start a debate about debating - about the styles of debating; the topics that can be debated; the objectives of of a debate; the reason people choose, or do not choose, to debate.  Take your pick :P

Sounds good to me, lets do it all, all in one go  [O8)]
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #26 on: 09/11/2006 19:36:26 »
So you want to start a debate about debating - about the styles of debating; the topics that can be debated; the objectives of of a debate; the reason people choose, or do not choose, to debate.  Take your pick :P

Sounds good to me, lets do it all, all in one go  [O8)]

So - then what are your views on the matter:

  • What may be debated?
  • What are the objectives of a debate?
  • Why do people choose, or choose not, to debate?

If you're happy with them all, then the ball is in your court.[:P]
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Re: Debates
« Reply #27 on: 09/11/2006 19:58:14 »
So you want to start a debate about debating - about the styles of debating; the topics that can be debated; the objectives of of a debate; the reason people choose, or do not choose, to debate.  Take your pick :P

Sounds good to me, lets do it all, all in one go  [O8)]

So - then what are your views on the matter:

  • What may be debated?
  • What are the objectives of a debate?
  • Why do people choose, or choose not, to debate?

If you're happy with them all, then the ball is in your court.[:P]

Aww crap, you're being serious aren't you
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #28 on: 09/11/2006 20:33:18 »
Aww crap, you're being serious aren't you

No - just seeing how far you are willing to go :P ;D
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Re: Debates
« Reply #29 on: 09/11/2006 20:43:43 »
Aww crap, you're being serious aren't you

No - just seeing how far you are willing to go :P ;D

Sometimes I am willing to go a little too far, but not when intelligence comes into it  ;)
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #30 on: 13/11/2006 00:41:32 »
What about debating about stem cell research?
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #31 on: 13/11/2006 15:55:42 »
That might be good.

Does anybody object? :P
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #32 on: 13/11/2006 16:06:28 »
No objections here! Go for it! Interesting topic I should like to follow along and here all the sides! Let the games begin!
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #33 on: 13/11/2006 16:11:06 »
A largely debated topic.  Some people largely support it in order to save lives.  Others are entirely against it because it involves using embryos, and people argue that they are wasted lives.  Who supports this? Im not entirely sure that I do...
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #34 on: 13/11/2006 17:08:04 »
Stem Cell research is not just isolated to embryo stem cells am I incorrect! I know that is the best source as they replicate themselves, but I also know their have been more research done using your nasal Stem cells as they are the only ones in the adult body that replicate themselves, or renew themselves so there is more then embryo stem cells to weigh in here is there not? I am not debating, but asking as my own curiosty wonders about this myself.. I think I am kind of for it but not real stable on this yet! Something I am still weighing right now! Why indeed that I wish to follow along and perhaps learn some more!
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Re: Debates
« Reply #35 on: 14/11/2006 15:47:06 »
well said!

Any experts who can put their wisdom into writing for the benefit of those who are ignorant of all things stem cell?
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #36 on: 14/11/2006 19:02:55 »
 Thank you.. Do you know anymore on the research here, as this is a subject that I find completely facsinating?
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #37 on: 14/11/2006 22:42:05 »
No objections here! Go for it! Interesting topic I should like to follow along and here all the sides! Let the games begin!

Yes you are right Karen. I think embryonic stem cells are best as they haven't differentiated at all. Most people object to stem cell research because of their ignorant religious beliefs (sorry I have a chip on my shoulder about religion). Something shouldn't be band or hindered just because of some peoples beliefs.

On a related subject when would you guys call an impregnation, a life?

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Re: Debates
« Reply #38 on: 15/11/2006 00:05:06 »
Stem cells fend off lung cancer

Cancer vaccine harnesses similarities between embryos and tumours.


http://www.nature.com/news/2006/061106/full/061106-17.html
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #39 on: 15/11/2006 10:35:01 »
I believe life begins at fertilization.When that egg begins to grow. I still am on the fence but leaning toward stem cell research as it has so many possibilities for healing and saving lives as I think it may be a good thing. Yes I understand the implications pertaining to a fetus, but their in lies my quandries.. about finding out more!
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #40 on: 21/11/2006 18:02:01 »
You can also get stem cells from umbilical cord blood, after birth these can be harvested with no harm to embryos.
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #41 on: 22/11/2006 02:29:24 »
I blastocyst which is a 3 day old embryo has 150 cells. On the other hand a fly brain has 100,000 cells. Most people wouldn't think twice about swatting a fly but oh no we can hurt the little embryo that has 666.667 times less cells that the fly brain. This is not a human life. The soul is not a magically thing that enters an embryo at conception. Come on people lets be adult about it.
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #42 on: 06/12/2006 23:51:19 »
Well, to start with, don't you think it's disgusting that it is legal to display horrific beheading videos on the internet (armstrong, Bigley)?  Something should be done to have them banned. Imagine being a member of their family and knowing their death is on the net.
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #43 on: 07/12/2006 03:43:43 »
Is that on our forum??
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #44 on: 08/12/2006 14:42:23 »
Doubt it.
 

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Re: Debates
« Reply #45 on: 08/12/2006 15:00:00 »
I hope not YUck! I found old military pictures of those same things in my grandfathers old photo's they were horrific.. It was during war time, but I had no Idea that people did those kind of things during war time... It is so frightening!
 

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