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How does one GAIN weight?
« on: 05/01/2004 19:23:57 »
How does one GAIN weight??
Tried all the weight gain food, eaten 4 meals a day, taken vitamin pills etc...
« Last Edit: 03/07/2004 04:19:50 by Exodus »


 

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #1 on: 05/01/2004 20:55:13 »
Hi h4mi,

When is the last time you cleansed your body of parsites?
 

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #2 on: 05/01/2004 21:14:04 »
Hi Donnah,
Is your question in line with sort of "worm treatment" like what you give your pet every six months? If its so, the answer is no, and the weight gain idea has been tried for the past 25 yrs. I am fit, healthy, but just cannot put on even an ounce of weight.
 

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #3 on: 06/01/2004 01:13:27 »
Have you tried a weight training regimen combined with a high protein (including protein supplmenets) diet?

I recommend the MAX-OT weight regimen at AST Sport Science (www.astss.com) it's a free 12 week program that guides you as to how and when to train.  You need to sign up for access, but they won't charge you anything...they'll just try and sell you health supplements.  (which are pretty good as far as these things go)  Combine that with a high protein balanced diet (40% protein, 30% carb, 30% fat) and you'll put on lean muscle mass.  As always, talk to your doctor before starting anything like this if you're not in good shape.

The key is, eating a lot of food isn't going to add mass unless you're weight training to force your body to build new tissue.  It sounds like your metabolism is high enough that eating a lot won't add any fat either, which is a good thing.

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #4 on: 08/01/2004 20:49:18 »
Thanks for answer. I do have a very high metabolism rate.
 

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #5 on: 09/01/2004 11:00:06 »
Anyone else having this weight gain "issue" & how have you dealt with it??
 

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #6 on: 09/01/2004 11:18:50 »
How much weight do you want to gain ? Given that your weight has remained stable for such a long time argues that you are at your genetically-determined weight. If it had changed suddenly then I would be concerned that there might be something else going on, but the reason we all look different is because we are all genetically different - and that includes the size and shape of our bodies, and how they handle energy.

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #7 on: 09/01/2004 14:53:34 »
Last year I tried to increase my weight as I was doing lots of rowing and was always the small weedy one in the boat. I basically ate everything I could get my hands on and plenty of carbohydrates. There is a limit to what you can do I think though. I did manage it but it took 6 month before the results began to show. However as Cannabinoid mentioned I was combining it with weight training.

However I stopped rowing it took ages to shift the weight again. :(

I always wondered if I had affected my metabolism. Is this possible? If so, would that be another way to gain weight?

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #8 on: 09/01/2004 18:54:03 »
Chris,  is it necessarily unhealthy to be at a weight other than your genetically determined one?  For instance, would a body builder (who doesn't use steroids) be at a health risk?  I've always wondering if being overweight from muscle is any better on your heart than being overweight from fat.



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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #9 on: 09/01/2004 22:45:20 »
Thanks everyone for adding to this topic. In response though, Chris, I get your point, but would you consider 5'7 & 120lb(8.5st) an ideal weight? I can easily lose weight though. And Claire, the way to do that is be hyperactive. I have always got to be doing something. Never come-off-the-ceiling so to speak. And NO, I don't smoke anything & don't drink any alcohol either.and here's another "issue" >> I only sleep a couple of hrs a day.& I am wide awake the whole day; But if I sleep any longer than that, I am sooo tired the following day that I am literally nodding. [8D]

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #10 on: 11/01/2004 03:35:28 »
Move to the United States.  Chris will tell you, that'll put weight on you.  Especially move to New Orleans, although I heard that Detroit has now beaten us as the most obese city and N.O. is not even in the top ten any more.  Seriously though, my aunt Jennie used to be like that.  She ate like a longshoreman and never did get past a size 4.  I think your genetics may limit you, but don't feel badly.  There are people out there who would kill to have your metabolism.

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #11 on: 11/01/2004 09:11:22 »
I recently heard that Missouri was the "fattest" state.  I'm not sure what the criteria is for this...just regular weight (which can be misleading) or average body fat %



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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #12 on: 12/01/2004 03:39:12 »
I would bet general overall weight.  I doubt any of the studies get that scientific

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #13 on: 12/01/2004 17:48:17 »
Dear h4mi / Sherman

The most accurate index of weight is the Quetelet or Body Mass Index (BMI) which you calculate by dividing your weight in kilograms by your height in metres, and then dividing the answer by your height in metres again. (in other words weight in kilos / (height in metres) squared.

The ideal BMI is a ratio of 20 - 25. Below 25 and you are too thin, above 25 and you are too fat.

Work out your's and come back to us

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #14 on: 13/01/2004 00:14:37 »
Hi h4mi,

Yes, I was referring to deworming yourself just like you do for pets.  I use a natural parasite cleanse, but there are commercial preparations available.
 

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #15 on: 13/01/2004 02:48:37 »
I thought worms did more than just make you unable to gain weight...that they make you lose even more weight and get sickly from lack of nutrients.  He said he's healthy otherwise, so....

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #16 on: 13/01/2004 23:04:05 »
Donnah, what is it that you use and does it have a noticeable effect on your digestive system?
 

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #17 on: 14/01/2004 13:48:53 »
Donnah,
What kind of parasites are you cleansing for?

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #18 on: 15/01/2004 01:26:50 »
Cannabinoid, worms can make you sick, but it doesn't happen overnight so you can be infected (tough not to be) and not even notice until they multiply dramatically.  Recently I did the lemon cleanse enema and rousted out something that looked like a bunch of beige threads about three inches long (yuck).

MissMontana, I normally use the parasite cleanse outlined in Dr. Hulda Clark's book The Cure for All Cancers.  The herbs used are cloves, wormwood and black walnut tincture.

Bezoar, the parasite cleanse (Dr. Clark's) kills intestinal fluke adults, eggs, miracidia, redia, cercaria and metaceria.  It also kills several others, something like 80 different kinds (going on memory since my book went AWOL).  What it doesn't get are the tough ones like tapeworms.  She recommends cloves and a preparation called "Rascal" for 20 days to kill the others, though I confess I haven't used Rascal myself yet.  What would those thread-like worms that I mentioned to Cannabis be?
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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #19 on: 15/01/2004 12:14:34 »
Hello everyone thanks for your input.Chris, are those figures for the BMI 20 - 25 or 200 - 250; reason being, working out the figures, I end up with  78.5. The workings as follows, taking the figures given in my earlier response. Weight in kgs(120 lbs x 2.25)=283.5kg ; Divide this by height in  meters (5.7 divided by 3)= 1.9 meters=149.2; divided again by 1.9 m = 78.5

Is my answer/workings correct or do I need a counting frame8). And how do boxers gain and lose weight in a matter of days?

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #20 on: 15/01/2004 13:52:48 »
h4mi, for calculating BMI in metric, I think the height has to be in centimeters.

Try this website:  http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #21 on: 15/01/2004 18:16:44 »
Not quite !

It is quite correct to use metres in calculating your BMI, but you have made a fundamental mistake in coverting your weight to kilograms !

1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds

If you look at your calculation you have multiplied your weight by 2.2, instead of dividing it.

If you put the figures in correctly, including converting 5'7" to metres more accurately than you did, you arrive at a BMI of 18.8

Your ideal BMI is 20-25, meaning that you need to gain a bit of weight, as you surmise !

As to why you are thin, I think you have probably already given us a clue - you say that you never sit still. There may be reasons for that and it might be worth seeing a doctor if simple measures to gain weight don't work.

The only way to gain weight, in the absence of an absorption problem, is to increase the number of calories you take in, relative to your energy expenditure. I'm assuming that you've never knowingly had malabsorption or any other intestinal problem ?

As Donnah suggested, a remote possibility is parasites as these can make you thin, although you'd probably have seen them by now.

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #22 on: 18/01/2004 12:42:05 »
Donnah,
I have no idea what those worms might be.  Have never seen them with my patients.  The most I've seen are tapeworms, pinworms, and round worms, and I worked with an indigent and immigrant population at Charity Hospital.  Maybe Chris knows, as he's seen more international patients than I have, I'm sure.

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Re: How does one GAIN weight?
« Reply #23 on: 18/01/2004 12:47:19 »

Thanks for all your replies and suggestions. Will have to find some solution. Keep up the brill radio programme Chris. Will be listening in.

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« Reply #24 on: 18/01/2004 20:15:54 »
In answer to Cannabinoids question yes bodybuilders are at at risk from heart attacks.

When one's body reaches the astronomical size that bodybuilders aim for the heart cannot cope.

I used to train 4 days a week in my desire to be large and witnessed many bodybuilders suffering from heart conditions.

Palpitations, pale skin, clammy to touch, complaints of spots in front of the eyes.

Arnold S.... has had 6 heart attacks!

I now no longer wish to be big and have cured my bigorexia with common sense.

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