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Is there one fundamental energy?
« on: 26/10/2015 21:50:01 »
Vedran asked the Naked Scientists:
   Could there exist a thing that I call a "fundamental energy".
That energy formed itself to be matter,antimatter,everything,nothing,,infinity,time... basically everything we perceive.
And it can form into infinite many things that we cannot comprehend right now.
What do you think?
« Last Edit: 26/10/2015 21:50:01 by _system »


 

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Re: Is there one fundamental energy?
« Reply #1 on: 27/10/2015 00:18:23 »
Quote from: Vedran
   Could there exist a thing that I call a "fundamental energy".
No. The only thing like it is called merely energy which refers to the total energy of the system. This quantity is well known.
 

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Re: Is there one fundamental energy?
« Reply #2 on: 27/10/2015 08:21:21 »
No.

Energy is a scalar quantity that we have invented, and we observe to be conserved.
 
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Re: Is there one fundamental energy?
« Reply #3 on: 29/10/2015 10:15:18 »
There is only one fundamental energy and it is formed in a 3D force field. Inside a molecule of matter is just protons, neutrons and electrons all vibrating inside a magnetic field.  The stronger the vibration the higher the temperature.
As the force is three dimensional then the energy will also be 3D and an observer will experience it as pushing forward as real scalar kinetic energy.  But as the energy could be formed from negative anti-matter then there is possible annihation from negative energy and even more complex is the virtual energy which is at right angles to the observer and may be up or down.
This universal fundamantal energy of which God created everything; I have named magnoflux energy.
 

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Re: Is there one fundamental energy?
« Reply #4 on: 29/10/2015 12:40:57 »
If we start at low energy and then increase the value of the energy to extreme levels, eventually matter and anti-matter will appear from the energy. This tells us that matter and anti-matter exists at higher potential than does nearly all quanta of energy. If matter and anti-matter combine to lower potential, energy appears.

If only matter remained, like in our universe, then that matter, although stable, will continue to exist at higher potential than nearly all energy. It cannot convert back to energy, directly, because a lack of anti-matter, has resulted in a very high activation energy hill to overcome, before it can directly convert to energy. Instead the matter will need to lower potential back to energy in other ways, such as by the forces of nature.

If we compare matter to energy, matter cannot move at the speed of light, while energy can move at the speed of light. Matter is limited to finite or inertial references, while energy moves at the speed of light. Since our current universe shows a net movement of matter to energy; mass burn and fusion, and not net energy forming matter, the direction of universal potential also reflects inertial reference going back to a speed of light reference. This implies that the speed of light is the ground state of our universe.

If you look at gravity, this cause matter to clump, causing space-time to contract as the matter compacts. This reflects movement of matter in the general direction of the speed of light reference. At the speed of light space-time reference contract all the way to a point-instant. Gravity is a backdoor way to return toward the C reference.

If you look at the universal red shift, this reflects the potential in energy, going back to a speed of light reference. In a speed of light reference, the universe would appear like a point-instant. What this means is any wavelength less than infinite wavelength, cannot be seen in the speed of light reference, since the wavelength will appear to be less than point. One cannot get smaller than a point, by definition. To become visible at C all energy has to red shift toward infinite wavelength; universal red shift and cooling.

Energy, although moving at the speed of light, also exhibits finite expressions of wavelength and frequency. These are not visible at the speed of light reference; less than a point. These are inertial based and act like a bridge between matter and the C reference ground state. These aspects of energy  can impact inertial reference via gravity. However, their impacts diminishes with time due to energy moving back to C; cool and red shift.

The advantage of using C as the ground state is this helps to avoid pitfalls, since this ground state reference is the same in all inertial references; absolute. Energy is universal in the sense that all energy is a bridge between matter and the C reference.
 

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